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Post by Kliquid on Aug 15, 2010 5:57:33 GMT -5
Do you think the framers of the Constitution upheld to the idea that gay marriage should exist? It was 1776, we can assume that the answer is basically no. At the same time, many supported slavery as well and that was amended. I'm just saying, if you're a strict Constitutionalist, you'd have to contradict yourself on the definition of freedom, because some of the framers certainly did. It really doesn't matter what they meant. Writers of the constitution, Thomas Jefferson most notably, specifically spoke of separation of church and state. By that standard, it should not matter whether they specifically meant "gay marriage" or not, as "marriage" should not be recognized by the state. As such, all couples should be recognized equally at a state level, even if churches themselves don't want to recognize them.
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Post by Adam on Aug 15, 2010 9:59:26 GMT -5
I'm not mentioning same-sex, but Seahorses are born via the male. So really the "un-natural" argument holds no legitimacy. Animals also sometimes eat their babies, should we also do that? I'm not against homosexuality, but I think like an attorney so I like to argue. Slippery Slope fallacy - very common in arguments against gay marriage. The point I was trying to make was that homosexuality is not "un-natural". That's because we are apart of the the same animal kingdom, whether bible thumpers/fundies like it or not.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2010 16:23:07 GMT -5
Do people realise that people have been CURED of being gay? Pyschological doctors have linked it to being a mental illness, and in most cases psycho therapy and hypnosis have cured them completely.
But i think alot of the time, it's just a cry for attention that they could only recieve by claiming to like people of the same gender.
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Post by slappy on Aug 15, 2010 16:30:43 GMT -5
Do people realise that people have been CURED of being gay? Pyschological doctors have linked it to being a mental illness, and in most cases psycho therapy and hypnosis have cured them completely. But i think alot of the time, it's just a cry for attention that they could only recieve by claiming to like people of the same gender. No one has ever been cured. It is not a mental illness. Yes, because I have this huge need for attention that I like guys. "Oh look at me, I like men, pay attention to me." Moron.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2010 16:35:13 GMT -5
Do people realise that people have been CURED of being gay? Pyschological doctors have linked it to being a mental illness, and in most cases psycho therapy and hypnosis have cured them completely. But i think alot of the time, it's just a cry for attention that they could only recieve by claiming to like people of the same gender. You don't wake up one day and decide that you want to be gay. I just hate it how everyone thinks its someone's choice to be gay. And I need to ask, how do gays affect you? Have they hurt you in anyway?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2010 16:43:09 GMT -5
Do people realise that people have been CURED of being gay? Pyschological doctors have linked it to being a mental illness, and in most cases psycho therapy and hypnosis have cured them completely. But i think alot of the time, it's just a cry for attention that they could only recieve by claiming to like people of the same gender. No one has ever been cured. It is not a mental illness. Yes, because I have this huge need for attention that I like guys. "Oh look at me, I like men, pay attention to me." Moron. Funny how you constantly make a point of being gay? Any opportunity arises and you're there with a point about your sexuality. So in not so many words, you do cry for attention. And yes, people have been cured. Even South Park made fun of it.
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Post by ebilbryan™ on Aug 15, 2010 16:51:36 GMT -5
No one has ever been cured. It is not a mental illness. Yes, because I have this huge need for attention that I like guys. "Oh look at me, I like men, pay attention to me." Moron. Funny how you constantly make a point of being gay? Any opportunity arises and you're there with a point about your sexuality. So in not so many words, you do cry for attention. And yes, people have been cured. Even South Park made fun of it. What? You're getting evidence from South Park? Homosexuality is not something you can cure, it (apparently) is in the genetics of a person, and that's how it is. I personally have not seen any articles stating that being gay is for a fact genetic, as I consider it the person's choice to come to the conclusion about their sexuality. Have you ever just had a conversation with a gay person? Are they really all that different than you, aside from their sexual preference? From reading your posts, you sound overly ignorant and stubborn. Just my 2 cents.
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Post by Mole on Aug 15, 2010 16:57:26 GMT -5
No one has ever been cured. It is not a mental illness. Yes, because I have this huge need for attention that I like guys. "Oh look at me, I like men, pay attention to me." Moron. Funny how you constantly make a point of being gay? Any opportunity arises and you're there with a point about your sexuality. So in not so many words, you do cry for attention. And yes, people have been cured. Even South Park made fun of it.They made fun of Scientology too, does that make it a good religion that is not based of crazy theories?
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Post by sonstuds on Aug 15, 2010 17:17:25 GMT -5
And yes, people have been cured. Even South Park made fun of it. South Park made fun of the perception that people could be cured of being gay.
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Post by Adam on Aug 15, 2010 18:28:13 GMT -5
Do people realise that people have been CURED of being gay? Pyschological doctors have linked it to being a mental illness, and in most cases psycho therapy and hypnosis have cured them completely. But i think alot of the time, it's just a cry for attention that they could only recieve by claiming to like people of the same gender. These psychological doctors have to hypnotize people to make them heterosexual? Doesn't really sound like a "cure".
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Post by slappy on Aug 15, 2010 18:50:33 GMT -5
No one has ever been cured. It is not a mental illness. Yes, because I have this huge need for attention that I like guys. "Oh look at me, I like men, pay attention to me." Moron. Funny how you constantly make a point of being gay? Any opportunity arises and you're there with a point about your sexuality. So in not so many words, you do cry for attention. And yes, people have been cured. Even South Park made fun of it. Yeah, every post I point out I'm gay. In the BCA figures thread, I just had to point out that I was a gay collector. In the hell post, I said I was going to a homosexual hell. In the SummerSlam post, I posted how I was a gay wrestling fan. Idiot. South Park was making fun of it, because they know it can't be cured. They made fun of NAMBLA does that make NAMBLA ok?
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Post by Kliquid on Aug 15, 2010 21:04:26 GMT -5
And yes, people have been cured. Even South Park made fun of it. South Park made fun of the perception that people could be cured of being gay. Wow, thank you. I'm surprised that there really are idiots out there who still think that it is some sort of illness. Unbelievable. .... Oh, and for the record, Slappy was here for like 4 years before I knew he was gay. And look how many posts I have.
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Post by slappy on Aug 15, 2010 21:11:50 GMT -5
And look how many posts I have. I'm catching up to you.
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Post by Angel Beast on Aug 15, 2010 22:32:42 GMT -5
Do people realise that people have been CURED of being gay? Pyschological doctors have linked it to being a mental illness, and in most cases psycho therapy and hypnosis have cured them completely. But i think alot of the time, it's just a cry for attention that they could only recieve by claiming to like people of the same gender. Its not a mental illness moron, it's not disease, and it's not a cry for attention. Seriously you really are ignorant. Their life style doesn't affect you so stop bitching about it.
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Post by Kliquid on Aug 16, 2010 3:18:46 GMT -5
I believe that there ARE people (particularly girls) who claim that they are gay to get attention.
That said, almost everyone who says they are gay -- is gay. It's not a cry for attention any moreso than being a "Christian" or an "Atheist" (I use those terms in quotes because I believe that the vast majority of people don't actually know what they believe) is.
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Post by slappy on Aug 16, 2010 3:21:30 GMT -5
I believe that there ARE people (particularly girls) who claim that they are gay to get attention. That said, almost everyone who says they are gay -- is gay. It's not a cry for attention any moreso than being a "Christian" or an "Atheist" (I use those terms in quotes because I believe that the vast majority of people don't actually know what they believe) is. I'm sure there are girls who pretend to be bi to please their boyfriends.
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Post by K5 on Aug 16, 2010 10:42:59 GMT -5
and i'm sure there are gay people who pretend to be straight. one of my best friends recently came out, and if anyone told him he has a disease, he'd be liable to start hitting them. anger problem perhaps, but no gay disease.
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Post by slappy on Aug 16, 2010 16:23:08 GMT -5
and i'm sure there are gay people who pretend to be straight. one of my best friends recently came out, and if anyone told him he has a disease, he'd be liable to start hitting them. anger problem perhaps, but no gay disease. I pretended to be straight for years.
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Post by Quanthor on Aug 16, 2010 16:56:11 GMT -5
I wonder what the polls would look like on robosexuality?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2010 17:19:14 GMT -5
I just remembered something: now I remember of a story where there was a guy who married a video game avatar. No, not cosplay, the girl in the actual game in his DS. Now if he can get away with that, how the hell can gays not be allowed to marry? IYAM, marrying a video game is a hell of a lot worse than two people of the same sex marry.
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