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Post by Thunder on Aug 14, 2010 10:45:50 GMT -5
America's problem is with terrorists, and yes 9/10 terrorists are probably Muslim. But not all Muslims are terrorists and the problem is not with the Muslim faith as a whole. Building a mosque should be no issue, unless someone has a deep-rooted hatred towards the faith, which may speak volumes about who the person really is. I don't harbour any deep resentment towards any group of people (except gays) but there's no reason for anyone to leave their country and take their religious buildings with them, if they want to live in any country, they should accept the way of life there and if they don't like it, they should stay where they were to begin with, there's not enough space in every country for everyone to live in it, Obama has already ruined North America. I'm not sure if you realize this, but there is no national religion in this country, and anyone can practice whatever religion they want. It doesn't matter where they came from, or how different their religion may seem. They can practice it, end of story. As people have pointed out, if "people should accept the way of life there, and if they don't like it, they should stay where they were to begin with," then no Christians and Jews would be here. Not to mention the settlers changed a whole hell of a lot of things. |
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Post by sean™ on Aug 14, 2010 10:47:03 GMT -5
Good for him. I agree.
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Post by K5 on Aug 14, 2010 10:54:36 GMT -5
people need to reconsider how they perceive people of muslim descent and religion - we're turning them into the new japs.
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Post by E-Noon on Aug 14, 2010 11:43:09 GMT -5
Gotta love the "if you dun like America you ken git ouut" comments.... but seriously smart move by Obama.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2010 12:19:17 GMT -5
So if Jews want to practice their religion, they should go to Israel? And if some branches of Christianity/Catholicism wanted to practice their religion they should go to England? And it's in the first amendment, freedom of religion. Technically in your examples, Jews should go back to Europe as well. They weren't in Israel until after WWII when we put them there. While I'm not personally in favor of new mosques, or religious buildings at all... They have every right in the world to put it there and people's personal feelings do not enter into it at all. It's not like it's right on ground Zero. People just need something to complain about, especially the xenophobic neo-cons. But in Biblical times they were in Israel, dating back (as mentioned many times) to the Bronze Age. |
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Post by carly1988 on Aug 14, 2010 12:24:09 GMT -5
It really doesnt sound like Obama is interested in a 2nd term as President.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Aug 14, 2010 12:37:31 GMT -5
If they want to practise their own religion they should have stayed in their own country. So if Jews want to practice their religion, they should go to Israel? And if some branches of Christianity/Catholicism wanted to practice their religion they should go to England? And it's in the first amendment, freedom of religion. England is Protestant,and very few people here are Catholic. I would suggest that the Catholics go to Rome instead. |
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Post by heartbreakkid2k3 on Aug 14, 2010 15:40:54 GMT -5
America's problem is with terrorists, and yes 9/10 terrorists are probably Muslim. But not all Muslims are terrorists and the problem is not with the Muslim faith as a whole. Building a mosque should be no issue, unless someone has a deep-rooted hatred towards the faith, which may speak volumes about who the person really is. I don't harbour any deep resentment towards any group of people (except gays) but there's no reason for anyone to leave their country and take their religious buildings with them, if they want to live in any country, they should accept the way of life there and if they don't like it, they should stay where they were to begin with, there's not enough space in every country for everyone to live in it, Obama has already ruined North America. Funny. I don't have any deep resentment towards anyone. ...except you. Stop being a bigot. Life is much happier. |
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Post by eenyc21 on Aug 14, 2010 16:45:17 GMT -5
Terrible decision. The whole idea of the mosque right down the block is no good, and without a doubt being done with a purpose.
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Post by slappy on Aug 14, 2010 16:57:28 GMT -5
Terrible decision. The whole idea of the mosque right down the block is no good, and without a doubt being done with a purpose. Which law are they breaking by putting the mosque there? |
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Post by slappy on Aug 14, 2010 17:00:38 GMT -5
America's problem is with terrorists, and yes 9/10 terrorists are probably Muslim. But not all Muslims are terrorists and the problem is not with the Muslim faith as a whole. Building a mosque should be no issue, unless someone has a deep-rooted hatred towards the faith, which may speak volumes about who the person really is. I don't harbour any deep resentment towards any group of people (except gays) but there's no reason for anyone to leave their country and take their religious buildings with them, if they want to live in any country, they should accept the way of life there and if they don't like it, they should stay where they were to begin with, there's not enough space in every country for everyone to live in it, Obama has already ruined North America. So we should be living like Native Americans today since we illegally kicked them off their land. We should live like those who live here and those were the Native Americans. So why aren't we living like them. Would you advocate living like them? Your hatred of gay people is probably rooted in a curiosity of your own sexuality, you keep hating hoping those gay thoughts go away. How has Obama ruined Canada and Mexico? And for that matter America? |
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Post by BRYAN on Aug 14, 2010 17:02:47 GMT -5
In the Islamic religion, Muslims always build mosques in the places they conquer. Not trying to be a smart ass either, it's 100% true. So do Christians. See: The United States of America BEAUTIFUL  |
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Post by eenyc21 on Aug 14, 2010 17:10:31 GMT -5
Terrible decision. The whole idea of the mosque right down the block is no good, and without a doubt being done with a purpose. Which law are they breaking by putting the mosque there? They arent breaking any law. Its just a slap in the face to not only NY but America. I mean come on, the man that bought the building paid for it for $5 million in cash (which I believe cant be traced back to a certain company or business). And they plan on making the "mega-mosque" about 10 stories tall, which would make it bigger then the WTC memorial. Sounds a bit fishy. Personally I love the new ads that are being posted on buses and subways around the city.  |
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Post by slappy on Aug 14, 2010 17:13:43 GMT -5
Which law are they breaking by putting the mosque there? They arent breaking any law. Its just a slap in the face to not only NY but America. I mean come on, the man that bought the building paid for it for $5 million in cash (which I believe cant be traced back to a certain company or business). And they plan on making the "mega-mosque" about 10 stories tall, which would make it bigger then the WTC memorial. Sounds a bit fishy. Personally I love the new ads that are being posted on buses and subways around the city. What a ridiculous ad. It isn't a WTC mosque. They aren't declaring war on us. They are declaring they have defeated us. They have not had one inclination of harming us at all. The muslims in that mosque did not attack us on September 11. They do not support the terrorists. It is a fear campaign and apparently it is winning you over. There is no law against it, in fact, in the constitution it says we have freedom of religion. So constitutionally, they have every right in the world to build their mosque/Islamic community center. |
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Post by Oskanowski on Aug 14, 2010 17:32:44 GMT -5
LOL^ MEGA MOSQUE!
MEGA STORE USA!
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Aug 14, 2010 17:34:56 GMT -5
I don't harbour any deep resentment towards any group of people (except gays) but there's no reason for anyone to leave their country and take their religious buildings with them, if they want to live in any country, they should accept the way of life there and if they don't like it, they should stay where they were to begin with, there's not enough space in every country for everyone to live in it, Obama has already ruined North America. So we should be living like Native Americans today since we illegally kicked them off their land. We should live like those who live here and those were the Native Americans. So why aren't we living like them. Would you advocate living like them? Your hatred of gay people is probably rooted in a curiosity of your own sexuality, you keep hating hoping those gay thoughts go away. How has Obama ruined Canada and Mexico? And for that matter America? That is one of the more ludicrous arguments I've ever heard and a blatant ad hominem one at that. I'd have expected better from you. |
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Post by eenyc21 on Aug 14, 2010 17:33:33 GMT -5
Def didnt win me over. The ads just came out, my mind has been up for awhile just like most of the city of NY. Mayor Bloomberg's approval rating is the lowest it has ever been after his backing of the mosque.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Aug 14, 2010 18:24:06 GMT -5
Technically in your examples, Jews should go back to Europe as well. They weren't in Israel until after WWII when we put them there. While I'm not personally in favor of new mosques, or religious buildings at all... They have every right in the world to put it there and people's personal feelings do not enter into it at all. It's not like it's right on ground Zero. People just need something to complain about, especially the xenophobic neo-cons. But in Biblical times they were in Israel, dating back (as mentioned many times) to the Bronze Age. True, but the other examples were more recent, so I figured that one should be too. |
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Post by slappy on Aug 14, 2010 18:26:21 GMT -5
So we should be living like Native Americans today since we illegally kicked them off their land. We should live like those who live here and those were the Native Americans. So why aren't we living like them. Would you advocate living like them? Your hatred of gay people is probably rooted in a curiosity of your own sexuality, you keep hating hoping those gay thoughts go away. How has Obama ruined Canada and Mexico? And for that matter America? That is one of the more ludicrous arguments I've ever heard and a blatant ad hominem one at that. I'd have expected better from you. Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Ted Haggard, just to name a few who have spouted off craphating gay people who turn out to be gay themselves. So my comments are fine. |
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Post by slappy on Aug 14, 2010 18:27:39 GMT -5
Def didnt win me over. The ads just came out, my mind has been up for awhile just like most of the city of NY. Mayor Bloomberg's approval rating is the lowest it has ever been after his backing of the mosque. Man of true courage to actually stand up for the constitution in spite of poll numbers dropping. |
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