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Post by pineappleexpress on Aug 17, 2010 6:13:47 GMT -5
I take it you guys haven't been watching wrestling long...
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Post by RatedWWEF on Aug 17, 2010 6:49:05 GMT -5
It didn't protect anything about his character. The story of last night was Daniel Bryan coming back. Even so much that they had him eliminate two members of Nexus. Might I add that you're comparing this to an agle that happened over twenty years ago. I'll also add that if you're gonna complain about Cena, then you'd may as well complain about Big Show's not so broken hand. So people heal quicker nowadays from landing head first into either concrete or steel? |
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Aug 17, 2010 6:56:05 GMT -5
It didn't protect anything about his character. The story of last night was Daniel Bryan coming back. Even so much that they had him eliminate two members of Nexus. Might I add that you're comparing this to an agle that happened over twenty years ago. I'll also add that if you're gonna complain about Cena, then you'd may as well complain about Big Show's not so broken hand. So people heal quicker nowadays from landing head first into either concrete or steel? Actually, in the wrestling world, yes. Let's go back to the Attitude era even. One of HHH's sledge shots would put a guy our for a week or two, or at least have him show up with bruised ribs. Now he merely uses it to send Sheamus running after a shot. If someone were to take an RKO on the steel ramp, or concrete floor on tv back in the 80's, it'd turn into a twnety minute segment of them loading whatever guy it was into the ambulance. |
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Post by James Hetfield on Aug 17, 2010 7:10:59 GMT -5
It didn't protect anything about his character. The story of last night was Daniel Bryan coming back. Even so much that they had him eliminate two members of Nexus. If the real "story" was Danielson's comeback, why didn't he just win himself? |
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Aug 17, 2010 7:18:41 GMT -5
It didn't protect anything about his character. The story of last night was Daniel Bryan coming back. Even so much that they had him eliminate two members of Nexus. If the real "story" was Danielson's comeback, why didn't he just win himself? Because Cena was the captain of the team. I'm just sick of people complaining that Cena's character is being "protected". He got his a** kicked from pillar to post when he fueded with Sheamus and Batista. Even lost some matches by pinfall. |
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Post by James Hetfield on Aug 17, 2010 7:21:18 GMT -5
He overly gets his ass kicked and comes back like the beating meant nothing, that's the problem.
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Post by Noza on Aug 17, 2010 8:24:05 GMT -5
I didn't mind that, the thing that does piss me off is that he doesn't put anyone over. Sure, The Nexus beat on him for a few months, however he didn't put them over when it REALLY mattered, at SummerSlam. The same applies to his feud with The Miz last summer. A clean pinfall for Wade Barrett or Justin Gabriel over Cena at SummerSlam would have done their careers, and the angle, no end off good.
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Post by Dan on Aug 17, 2010 9:22:24 GMT -5
The only reason the majority of people hate Cena is for the pure fact that during his time as Champion in 05/06, he was constantly beating people better in the Ring than him who were long overdue a Title run, the likes of Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho and Kurt Angle. He was constantly shoved down our throats, overcomming the odds week in and week out on Raw, and we got sick of it. But, the last year or so, only a small portion of Cena Haters remain, as most sensible and logical fans have grown to realise he is actually good for the business and the company.
But, it's not going to be long again before that small lust for Cena goes away, and fans once again get on his back as this time they are just willing for him to turn Heel. When he does turn Heel, we will love it, and be all over it. But, they need to make sure it is done right, otherwise they will drag it out and out and eventually we will know exactly where and when it is comming, and the shock factor will just not be there.
I believe they are simply freshening up his 'Super Cena' Gimmick to make him look once again the true face of the WWE, so that when he turns Heel it will be even bigger. This could be the start...
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Post by Kyle - legendkilla2k9 on Aug 17, 2010 10:30:22 GMT -5
After watching Hogan kick out of every finisher ever given to him, I've become used to it. Don't hate the cook, hate the recipe.  The Rock and Ultimate Warrior beg to differ ;D  |
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Post by capncharisma on Aug 17, 2010 10:37:46 GMT -5
I was  ing pissed last night when Wade Barrett jobbed to Cena. I really can't ing stand John Cena. How... in any way... is that Cena's fault? Creative makes the decision on who's gonna win, Not John Cena. im fairly confident the OP was talking about john cena his character on the show wwe monday night raw, not john cena the person. personally i think outside the ring he is a bad ass. hes hilarious and does plenty of good for wwe and charities etc. HOWEVER, john cena the 6 year olds favorite superhero is a joke. they killed everything they built up in 2 months with 4 huge mistakes, cena not selling moves, team wwe winning, letting cena tell the world how crappy each one is indiviually, and then cena not selling another move on raw. |
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Post by The Abdominal Toaster™ on Aug 17, 2010 10:41:33 GMT -5
That's what pissed me off too. Any other ing wrestler would have taken that ddt and been out for the count. Cena takes it moves from the 450 and then beats 2 guys like it was nothing. WWE's Creative! |
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Post by RatedWWEF on Aug 17, 2010 10:46:07 GMT -5
So people heal quicker nowadays from landing head first into either concrete or steel? Actually, in the wrestling world, yes. Let's go back to the Attitude era even. One of HHH's sledge shots would put a guy our for a week or two, or at least have him show up with bruised ribs. Now he merely uses it to send Sheamus running after a shot. If someone were to take an RKO on the steel ramp, or concrete floor on tv back in the 80's, it'd turn into a twnety minute segment of them loading whatever guy it was into the ambulance. But wouldn't you prefer seeing a segment where the superstar everyone cares about such as, Cena being put on a stretcher then taken away by ambulance? Then come 3 - 4 weeks down the line he comes out to an unexpected return and goes nuts beating on (in this case Nexus) which makes the story even longer taking it over to the next PPV, surely thats a good thing instead of having Nexus just dissolve into Zack Ryders jobbing each week and then eventually 'future endevoured'. In my opinion, that is what made the old days so good because WWE would just stick with the main storyline (which they knew was bringing in the viewers) for a few months building it up until us fans couldn't contain it anymore. |
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Post by TurboEddie on Aug 17, 2010 12:26:47 GMT -5
That bugs the crapout of me.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Aug 17, 2010 12:34:51 GMT -5
Actually, in the wrestling world, yes. Let's go back to the Attitude era even. One of HHH's sledge shots would put a guy our for a week or two, or at least have him show up with bruised ribs. Now he merely uses it to send Sheamus running after a shot. If someone were to take an RKO on the steel ramp, or concrete floor on tv back in the 80's, it'd turn into a twnety minute segment of them loading whatever guy it was into the ambulance. But wouldn't you prefer seeing a segment where the superstar everyone cares about such as, Cena being put on a stretcher then taken away by ambulance? Then come 3 - 4 weeks down the line he comes out to an unexpected return and goes nuts beating on (in this case Nexus) which makes the story even longer taking it over to the next PPV, surely thats a good thing instead of having Nexus just dissolve into Zack Ryders jobbing each week and then eventually 'future endevoured'. In my opinion, that is what made the old days so good because WWE would just stick with the main storyline (which they knew was bringing in the viewers) for a few months building it up until us fans couldn't contain it anymore. Oh, don't get me wrong friend. I pray every day that WWE will begin to write more elaborate, and longer story-lines. I was just stating my case as to why things were different when it came to what would "injure" a wrestler. |
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Post by ROCKAJABRONi on Aug 17, 2010 13:16:44 GMT -5
It didn't protect anything about his character. The story of last night was Daniel Bryan coming back. Even so much that they had him eliminate two members of Nexus. Might I add that you're comparing this to an agle that happened over twenty years ago. I'll also add that if you're gonna complain about Cena, then you'd may as well complain about Big Show's not so broken hand. So people heal quicker nowadays from landing head first into either concrete or steel? Evolution is a mystery. |
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Post by The UndyTaker on Aug 17, 2010 14:15:17 GMT -5
Yeah well I'm not keen on The Miz calling himself the Excellence of Execution and Michael Cole constantly putting him over, making him out to be something important. I'm not a big fan of Randy Orton twitching and pounding the mat before he hits an RKO. Nevermind aye. Miz sucks. Cole sucks. Orton sucks. The end. |
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Post by ttr23 on Aug 17, 2010 15:39:49 GMT -5
Yeah well I'm not keen on The Miz calling himself the Excellence of Execution and Michael Cole constantly putting him over, making him out to be something important. I'm not a big fan of Randy Orton twitching and pounding the mat before he hits an RKO. Nevermind aye. Miz sucks. Cole sucks. Orton sucks. The end. don't even bother with hm he his a maryse fan so his opinion doesn't matter |
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Post by alexgg on Aug 17, 2010 15:48:38 GMT -5
I hate the way hes out for a 9 count... then always springs into life burts into the ring reverses everything and wins by a porrly executed STF.
argh...
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Post by marino13 on Aug 17, 2010 15:58:06 GMT -5
After watching Hogan kick out of every finisher ever given to him, I've become used to it. Don't hate the cook, hate the recipe. The Rock and Ultimate Warrior beg to differ ;D Yeah but Savage and many others agree. And technically it took a 2nd Rock Bottom and a People's Elbow to keep him down.  |
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Post by jfinnomore on Aug 17, 2010 18:04:27 GMT -5
haha I love these kinda threads. Cena puts guys over, you don't have to beat someone to be put over. Darren Young looked great last night against him yet lost. If Cena was "Superman" he'd simply squash everyone he went against. Also maybe you didn't notice all his shirts say NEVER GIVE UP, thats the character they've made of him so if you don't like his work don't watch his matches, crybabies.
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