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Post by cjskittles4 on Aug 24, 2010 15:45:15 GMT -5
Wow! I really don't know what to think about that... That's the kind of stuff that really makes you think...
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Post by MC2 on Aug 24, 2010 16:01:16 GMT -5
Here's my opinion on animal cruelty.
Every single thing on earth has a purpose, unfortunately, chickens, cows, and other animals purpose is, being our food. Humans need to eat, and animals eat other animals, it's the way life is, you can't change it, no one can change it. Humans enjoy to eat meat, and humans will always enjoy to eat meat. I completely, 100% respect vegetarians, it's their choice, not mine, so what do I care? I am just saying animals eat other animals, that's life, it's not for us to decide.
And honestly, who cares how they treat the animals? Either way, they are going to end up being food, so why does it matter if they are treated nice when they die?
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Post by TheNinthCloud on Aug 24, 2010 16:04:16 GMT -5
Here's my opinion on animal cruelty. Every single thing on earth has a purpose, unfortunately, chickens, cows, and other animals purpose is, being our food. Humans need to eat, and animals eat other animals, it's the way life is, you can't change it, no one can change it. Humans enjoy to eat meat, and humans will always enjoy to eat meat. I completely, 100% respect vegetarians, it's their choice, not mine, so what do I care? I am just saying animals eat other animals, that's life, it's not for us to decide. And honestly, who cares how they treat the animals? Either way, they are going to end up being food, so why does it matter if they are treated nice when they die? Agreed, but there is ways to kill/treat the animals in a non-barbaric way.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Aug 24, 2010 17:01:05 GMT -5
Humans shouldn't eat meat not because of killing animals, but because it's not healthy for them. That's pretty much my stance on the subject.
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Post by sean™ on Aug 24, 2010 17:11:48 GMT -5
Tell that to my anemia that can't be helped by any iron supplement on the market.
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Post by Keyboard Cat on Aug 24, 2010 17:17:34 GMT -5
Here's my opinion on animal cruelty. Every single thing on earth has a purpose, unfortunately, chickens, cows, and other animals purpose is, being our food. Humans need to eat, and animals eat other animals, it's the way life is, you can't change it, no one can change it. Humans enjoy to eat meat, and humans will always enjoy to eat meat. I completely, 100% respect vegetarians, it's their choice, not mine, so what do I care? I am just saying animals eat other animals, that's life, it's not for us to decide. And honestly, who cares how they treat the animals? Either way, they are going to end up being food, so why does it matter if they are treated nice when they die?Are you ing serious?!
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Aug 24, 2010 17:19:51 GMT -5
Tell that to my anemia that can't be helped by any iron supplement on the market. How do iron supplements not work, that's very strange, but there's other non animal food that you can eat to get iron. Your case is different though, animal meat, especially animal meat loaded with steroids and antibiotics isn't really good for people. If you have anemia but you like meat and it's the only way for you to get proper iron, then don't stop eating it, but if you wanted to become a vegetarian, I'm sure there are other ways to get iron without having to eat meat.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Aug 24, 2010 17:31:05 GMT -5
Here's my opinion on militant vegetarianism:
Posting these videos accomplishes about all the same as the guy on page one posting that he loves steak. He's not going to change your opinion with a description of what's delicious to him, and you are not likely going to change his by posting these videos. I'm 25 years old - I've been seeing these videos since I saw my first PETA demonstration when I was 14. In eleven years, I've seen more animal cruelty videos than you could shake a stick at. They used to be very popular at things like the Warped Tour (might still be - haven't been in six years). I'm still gonna jump at the opportunity for a rack of ribs or a big juicy steak.
Point is - if you want to post these videos, fine. But don't get mad when someone posts something opposite of what they preach.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Aug 24, 2010 17:36:40 GMT -5
Humans shouldn't eat meat not because of killing animals, but because it's not healthy for them. That's pretty much my stance on the subject. That is a strong argument if you back it up. Most people have heard all the emotional arguments over and over and over again to the point where they have no effect on most people.
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Post by ICW on Aug 24, 2010 18:06:26 GMT -5
Personally, I enjoy eating meat too much to ever give it up. Just couldn't do it and no video is going to change that.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Aug 24, 2010 19:32:12 GMT -5
Humans shouldn't eat meat not because of killing animals, but because it's not healthy for them. That's pretty much my stance on the subject. That is a strong argument if you back it up. Most people have heard all the emotional arguments over and over and over again to the point where they have no effect on most people. Well, I just know from personal experience, since I stopped eating meat my health has improved greatly.
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Post by ville on Aug 24, 2010 19:43:49 GMT -5
Humans shouldn't eat meat not because of killing animals, but because it's not healthy for them. That's pretty much my stance on the subject. That is a strong argument if you back it up. Most people have heard all the emotional arguments over and over and over again to the point where they have no effect on most people. It's not healthier, fact is, most people don't eat there greens, The healthiest way to eat is lean meat and there full days serving of Fruits and Veggies. Buy eating only Meat, you will lose a lot of natural things that help our body a lot but by cutting out Meat and Eggs and being a Vegetarian you lose a lot of Protein and Iron, that even with all the supplements, you're still not healthy. The supplements only help so little, and its not natural so in theory its not that good for you to process. Vegetarians can't have Eggs or Meat. Now you can also buy meat without Steroids and Antibiotics loaded into them, and TBH most Meat isn't loaded with Steroids and Antibiotics. And that coming from a Vegetarian who has done all his research. Also if anyone cares, tomorrow, I'll make a post with my whole argument and stand point.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Aug 24, 2010 19:52:20 GMT -5
That is a strong argument if you back it up. Most people have heard all the emotional arguments over and over and over again to the point where they have no effect on most people. Well, I just know from personal experience, since I stopped eating meat my health has improved greatly. That is anecdotal evidence.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Aug 24, 2010 19:56:36 GMT -5
That is a strong argument if you back it up. Most people have heard all the emotional arguments over and over and over again to the point where they have no effect on most people. It's not healthier, fact is, most people don't eat there greens, The healthiest way to eat is lean meat and there full days serving of Fruits and Veggies. Buy eating only Meat, you will lose a lot of natural things that help our body a lot but by cutting out Meat and Eggs and being a Vegetarian you lose a lot of Protein and Iron, that even with all the supplements, you're still not healthy. The supplements only help so little, and its not natural so in theory its not that good for you to process. Vegetarians can't have Eggs or Meat. Now you can also buy meat without Steroids and Antibiotics loaded into them, and TBH most Meat isn't loaded with Steroids and Antibiotics. And that coming from a Vegetarian who has done all his research. Also if anyone cares, tomorrow, I'll make a post with my whole argument and stand point. Some vegetarians eat eggs, I do, I also have a lot of dairy products. That's how I get my protein.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Aug 24, 2010 19:57:25 GMT -5
Well, I just know from personal experience, since I stopped eating meat my health has improved greatly. That is anecdotal evidence. Well that's all the evidence I got, you don't have to believe me, as long as I can feel the results that's all I care about.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Aug 24, 2010 20:06:14 GMT -5
That is anecdotal evidence. Well that's all the evidence I got, you don't have to believe me, as long as I can feel the results that's all I care about. If it works for you then good for you. If you're healthier now, more power to you I say. Doesn't prove anything empirically is all.
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Post by Johnny on Aug 24, 2010 20:12:59 GMT -5
Here's my opinion on animal cruelty. Every single thing on earth has a purpose, unfortunately, chickens, cows, and other animals purpose is, being our food. Humans need to eat, and animals eat other animals, it's the way life is, you can't change it, no one can change it. Humans enjoy to eat meat, and humans will always enjoy to eat meat. I completely, 100% respect vegetarians, it's their choice, not mine, so what do I care? I am just saying animals eat other animals, that's life, it's not for us to decide. And honestly, who cares how they treat the animals? Either way, they are going to end up being food, so why does it matter if they are treated nice when they die? ... really? You honestly don't see it? Would you rather be beat to within an inch of your life and then die? Or would you rather be shot once in the head, die instantly, no pain?
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Aug 24, 2010 20:41:53 GMT -5
Here's my opinion on animal cruelty. Every single thing on earth has a purpose, unfortunately, chickens, cows, and other animals purpose is, being our food. Humans need to eat, and animals eat other animals, it's the way life is, you can't change it, no one can change it. Humans enjoy to eat meat, and humans will always enjoy to eat meat. I completely, 100% respect vegetarians, it's their choice, not mine, so what do I care? I am just saying animals eat other animals, that's life, it's not for us to decide. And honestly, who cares how they treat the animals? Either way, they are going to end up being food, so why does it matter if they are treated nice when they die? ... really? You honestly don't see it? Would you rather be beat to within an inch of your life and then die? Or would you rather be shot once in the head, die instantly, no pain? I'll take neither for 200 Alex.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Aug 24, 2010 20:49:31 GMT -5
You'd rather be eaten alive???
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Aug 24, 2010 20:52:30 GMT -5
You'd rather be eaten alive??? Don't kid yourself, Jimmy. If a cow got the chance he'd eat you and everyone you care about!
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