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Post by user9327 on Dec 14, 2010 15:51:54 GMT -5
I'm yelling at you because you're a  ing idiot about this poop and you might be the only person on the planet who is dumb enough to believe that the Cowboys and Patriots were the only teams that "cheated." I mean, as recently as a couple weeks ago, the Broncos got busted for doing it. Where was your outrage then? I can tell you exactly what I said. "I'm not surprised." The NFL has long been about finding ways to bend (or even break) the rules. But when it comes down to it, on Sunday, you have to win the game. The Broncos were videotaping and they still got blown out. When we know for a fact that other teams were videotaping (Johnson himself said that he knows personally of the Redskins) -- and Belichick has worked for numerous NFL teams in the past. Do you think he just came up with the idea randomly? Or do you think he might have been involved in doing it throughout his career? Maybe, just MAYBE? Don't get your panties in a wad now, but he worked for the Giants before he worked for the Patriots. Even if it came out tomorrow that the Giants were involved in Spygate in 2007, I wouldn't discredit them. I would say, "Oh well they probably shouldn't have been doing that, but other people were doing it too, so I'm not going to be too worried about it." It's the same thing with steroids in baseball, or any sport. When I find out that a player was taking steroids, I'm not really shocked. And I don't say, "Well he's a cheater, he would have never won without it!" Does the player deserve to be suspended for breaking the rules? Yes. Did the Patriots deserve to be punished for being caught in Spygate? YES!! But to discredit them in the absurd way you do is just so pathetic. LOL.... and you're trying to become a professional sports writer? My response to the Broncos was that I thought it was hilarious that it was an ex Patriots employee who got caught doing it again... which wouldn't really do your argument of other teams doing it much credit. And you sit here in this post and act like the Broncos used the tapes? You got facts or information on this? Because all I read was the coach being pissed about it happening, not using it and then apologizing IMMEDIATELY to the 49ers before it was even covered in the media. So what the hell are you trying to say? That it's accepted? Oh yea, looks like it.  Once again, show me even 25% of the league doing it... your claim has absolutely no merit. Only the guilty claim this.. why should the guilty have any barring over every NFL team in the league's reputation? Answer these questions for once. Acknowledge that it's YOU trying to prove something with no merit maybe?  I can buy that you have a theory but you are acting like this is argued with fact... it's not, show me them. Show me information that claims nearly every team in the league cheats then? Shut me up with the information if you're so right?But this has all been covered before and I realize I'm not gonna change your mind... but apparently you think you're gonna change mine, without information, just word of mouth from two fans of cheating teams... ok that's not insane or anything. Where have I really discredited the Patriots except for just mentioning they are proven cheaters? It speaks for itself. You don't like it? I don't know what to tell you, don't cheat? Maybe it just bothers you that your team cheated and it bothers Ralpho that his team cheated and you can't stand that I just think it's lame.... do I not have a right to have an opinion on this? Are you gonna try and verbally beat me up and call me dirty names like ing idiot? Does that make you a big man or something? Does calling me an idiot but not presenting ANY information that builds your argument past opinion and mild observation in comparison to me saying the Patriots were flat out caught cheating in a Superbowl? You want to call names, I'm not here for that... but I will say this... you're a professional writer!?!? You got that? The Patriots were caught flat out cheating in a Superbowl!!! I'm suppose to forget this!? Or I'm a ing idiot, apparently, according to you?!?! Insane. I'm not allowed to state facts anymore without being called an idiot and told about your FEELINGS on the matter. Go on the view with this crap you baby. This debate was dead weeks ago but Ralpho had to bring up some ridiculous crap like that again last night. The Patriots were caught cheating in a Superbowl... you're saying I should forget about it? Now you tell me, who feels the need to keep stating their case??? |
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Post by user9327 on Dec 14, 2010 15:52:13 GMT -5
I'd bash on other cities' teams too if I were a Knicks fan. this |
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Post by Greg Weinstein on Dec 14, 2010 15:52:42 GMT -5
SD = Super Bowl 45 champs.
That is all.
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Post by T R W on Dec 14, 2010 16:00:12 GMT -5
Lawrence Taylor was doing cocaine by the truckfull and sending hookers to opposing players. I guess their 86 Superbowl is tainted now.
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Post by user9327 on Dec 14, 2010 16:02:28 GMT -5
Lawrence Taylor was doing cocaine by the truckfull and sending hookers to opposing players. I guess their 86 Superbowl is tainted now. That's all fair and well... you won't see me responding with... BUT NO YOU ING IDIOT!!!! EVERY PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE WAS DOING IT TOOO!!!!! EVEN THOUGH I HAVE NO INFORMATION TO SUPPORT THIS!!!! YOU'RE A ING IDIOT TRW BECAUSE YOU ARE MAD ABOUT THAT!!!! Or rather was it, nearly every player? see what I mean? |
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Post by user9327 on Dec 14, 2010 16:04:14 GMT -5
Oh and for the record... I don't think those were the only two teams necessarily doing it... all I've said that this claim of "every NFL team does it" is flat out meritless and baseless. I just think the fans of the two teams that were dumb enough to get caught or admit to doing it are being homers about the whole thing. Big deal right? I'm an idiot right? I think the Patriots are great, but I'm not going to forget that while being great, they've been implicated as cheaters... big deal right? I should be bullied into agreeing with the Patriots fan that it didn't matter right? Or I'm a ing idiot, right? Yup, sounds sane. |
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Post by Kliquid on Dec 14, 2010 16:04:31 GMT -5
Yep. You're right. The Patriots and Cowboys were just doing the exact same things without any knowledge of the other one doing it.
Yep.
You're right.
This is the end of the discussion. I refuse to converse with someone who is so blatantly biased.
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Post by Kliquid on Dec 14, 2010 16:05:33 GMT -5
And many, many, MANY players did drugs and steroids. Even pieces of mediocre craplike Mike Golic did steroids.
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Post by user9327 on Dec 14, 2010 16:12:33 GMT -5
Yep. You're right. The Patriots and Cowboys were just doing the exact same things without any knowledge of the other one doing it. Yep. You're right. This is the end of the discussion. I refuse to converse with someone who is so blatantly biased. I don't understand what you mean by the first sentence? That I'm suppose to just think that the Patriots being caught cheating by video taping the St Louis Rams before the Superbowl is completely irrelevant to the Final score of that VERY close game? Oh I get it now! I shouldn't care because nearly every NFL team has done it in the Superbowl too! But there's only information and allegations available for one team doing it... not nearly every NFL team. Oh it doesn't matter, the two fans of cheating teams said I shouldn't worry. Sorrrrry I got so mixed up in reality and not homerville. Silly me. Geez, I hope they just end this MADNESS and reveal how the Giants cheated in SB42 already so I can stop being so misled by the NFL and join you guys in saying it didn't matter. I'll tell you this right now, if solid information comes out that says the Giants cheated by stealing signs in SB42... I won't be ok with it and my championship will be tainted. Because I'm not a baby. |
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Post by sean™ on Dec 14, 2010 16:13:32 GMT -5
SD = Super Bowl 45 champs. That is all. You have to make it to the playoffs first. |
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Post by user9327 on Dec 14, 2010 16:14:43 GMT -5
Speaking of Golic... there are a lot of mornings where I'll be getting ready watching Mike and Mike on TV and he's rubbing his nostrils constantly and just flat out looks like he's on coke to get up for the show. I have no information to back this and I will not be calling anyone a ing idiot who doesn't want to believe he's on coke doing the show. Just an observation. |
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Post by Kliquid on Dec 14, 2010 16:17:22 GMT -5
I just feel so bad for you that you can't see reality. That's all.
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Post by sean™ on Dec 14, 2010 16:22:07 GMT -5
I'd love to see a pie chart of how many posts in this thread are about the Patriots, Tom Brady, or Tom Brady's hair.
I'd say its like 45% Tom/Patriots, 30% MVP Arguments, 15% Game Conversation, 5% Fantasy Football, 5% Mark Sanchez Blows, and 0% about the Bengals.
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Post by T R W on Dec 14, 2010 16:24:07 GMT -5
No, we have talked about how crappy the Bengals are before. But the rest seems pretty accurate.
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Post by Kliquid on Dec 14, 2010 16:24:54 GMT -5
I'd love to see a pie chart of how many posts in this thread are about the Patriots, Tom Brady, or Tom Brady's hair. I'd say its like 45% Tom/Patriots, 30% MVP Arguments, 15% Game Conversation, 5% Fantasy Football, 5% Mark Sanchez Blows, and 0% about the Bengals. His hair is like the flowing mane of a Unicorn. It's just magical. |
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Post by Greg Weinstein on Dec 14, 2010 16:25:19 GMT -5
I'd love to see a pie chart of how many posts in this thread are about the Patriots, Tom Brady, or Tom Brady's hair. I'd say its like 45% Tom/Patriots, 30% MVP Arguments, 15% Game Conversation, 5% Fantasy Football, 5% Mark Sanchez Blows, and 0% about the Bengals. No, there's more fantasy football discussion than reality football discussion in here. Crazy. |
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Post by Cult Member BriGuy on Dec 14, 2010 16:25:26 GMT -5
Sometimes it feels like fantasy football is talked about more than game conversation
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Post by T R W on Dec 14, 2010 16:25:51 GMT -5
Honestly, I'd go bottom for Tom Brady and his glorious hair.
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Post by sean™ on Dec 14, 2010 16:26:22 GMT -5
No, we have talked about how crappy the Bengals are before. But the rest seems pretty accurate. Fair enough. I was debating about splitting up the MVP for a Vick catagory, but most days those go hand in hand. |
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Post by user9327 on Dec 14, 2010 16:26:40 GMT -5
I just feel so bad for you that you can't see reality. That's all. Your team cheated, his team cheated, mine's never been caught, nor have nearly every NFL team (but you claim this is the absolute truth, with nothing to support it)... that's reality... obviously you are having a hard time accepting it. Obviously I'm a ing idiot for disagreeing and not wanting to believe nearly every NFL cheated and altered the Superbowl nearly every year. Thanks for that, really... you're a class act, I love talking sports with you and being told I'm a ing idiot for admitting the Patriots are great but they've been caught cheating during their dynasty. |
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