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Post by joeyisraw on Sept 7, 2010 14:53:17 GMT -5
Dolph Ziggler! Though they seem to be steadily pushing him as well. Dolph Ziggler is awful, After he loses his Intercontinental Championship, I can see him getting released He and Christian are on Smackdown. not Raw. guess i should have made the question more clearer. Who else on Raw should get the push? Although I do agree with Christian. He should be in the main event on Smackdown. As for Ziggler? He's as high as he'll ever get in my opinion. |
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Post by JDSFullmetal on Sept 7, 2010 14:54:03 GMT -5
Watching that promo reminded me of how when he started out everyone on WF hated him and wanted him gone, and now at lest half the forum is on his dick 24/7. I really can't wait for the day he cashes in MITB and wins the WWE title(I have been a miz fan from his T.E. days up to today)
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Post by spreedom8 on Sept 7, 2010 15:10:05 GMT -5
Honestly, other than talking he has not improved THAT much. So, he got a hair cut and some trunks? Good for him, that hardly means he has improved as much as people would like to think. He learned how to do a full nelson face buster that Chris Jericho used to do and gave it a gay name.What's hilarious about the people that continue to bring this up is that Jericho wasn't even the first in WWE to do the move. Brian Christopher used to finish with it, starting at least two years earlier. |
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Post by AdamBomb on Sept 7, 2010 15:16:59 GMT -5
Dolph Ziggler! Though they seem to be steadily pushing him as well. Dolph Ziggler is awful, After he loses his Intercontinental Championship, I can see him getting released How is he awful? He's got charisma, he can wrestle, he can talk, he can wrestle, he's exciting, and HE CAN ACTUALLY  ING WRESTLE. You are HIGH out of your mind if you think he's "awful". |
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Post by mattoriginal on Sept 7, 2010 15:18:52 GMT -5
it was a good promo and all...
..but it's a monthly promo..it was fun in January, and it was fun two months ago..but you don't have to keep reminding us that JBL thought you sucked.
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Post by wabarrett on Sept 7, 2010 15:20:26 GMT -5
If every important Miz promo is him reminding us how s*** he used to be and how much everyone thought he bombed... then why so much praise?
Move on, stop referring to the incredibly lame Miz of old.
Not as good as his one at the beginning of the year, and basically a lame rehash of it. And no, I didn't think he'd be released after the split from Morrison.
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Post by sonofanarchy on Sept 7, 2010 16:02:12 GMT -5
Honestly, other than talking he has not improved THAT much. So, he got a hair cut and some trunks? Good for him, that hardly means he has improved as much as people would like to think. He learned how to do a full nelson face buster that Chris Jericho used to do and gave it a gay name.What's hilarious about the people that continue to bring this up is that Jericho wasn't even the first in WWE to do the move. Brian Christopher used to finish with it, starting at least two years earlier. Acutally, I think he used it as a set up to his Tennese Jam finisher. As for the question of who on Raw should be in Miz's spot... I can figure it out...ill look now and edit this post in a few. EDIT: Now, if I post two people who I think are better know this. They are better in the ring. Not on the Mic. Morrison and Ted Jr. |
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Post by rkokixas on Sept 7, 2010 16:03:22 GMT -5
Miz shouldve saved that promo for last month at Smackdown(whoops,I meant Summerslam).
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Post by GameOVER! on Sept 7, 2010 16:04:36 GMT -5
itd be nice if he defended that in belt once in a blue moon! |
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Post by wabarrett on Sept 7, 2010 16:10:14 GMT -5
Miz shouldve saved that promo for last month at Smackdown(whoops,I meant Summerslam). Ah c wut u did thur. |
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Post by TheNinthCloud on Sept 7, 2010 16:45:59 GMT -5
His promos are god awful, just sayin Better on the mic than Daniel Bryan. |
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Post by thepitbull on Sept 7, 2010 17:06:14 GMT -5
What's hilarious about the people that continue to bring this up is that Jericho wasn't even the first in WWE to do the move. Brian Christopher used to finish with it, starting at least two years earlier. Acutally, I think he used it as a set up to his Tennese Jam finisher. As for the question of who on Raw should be in Miz's spot... I can figure it out...ill look now and edit this post in a few. EDIT: Now, if I post two people who I think are better know this. They are better in the ring. Not on the Mic. Morrison and Ted Jr. Since when has WWE cared how good you are in the ring? Morrison and Ted are blah on the mic, Ted still can't get over even after getting his dads gimmick, belt and Maryse. Miz has more personality, gets a bigger reaction, more charismatic, can talk better than both and is decent in the ring...plus he's improved more than both of them, so how do Morrison and Ted more deserving? |
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Post by J12 on Sept 7, 2010 17:10:24 GMT -5
It was excellent, as usual. The Miz is one of the few guys I'm genuinely still interested in watching.
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Post by sonofanarchy on Sept 7, 2010 17:16:00 GMT -5
Acutally, I think he used it as a set up to his Tennese Jam finisher. As for the question of who on Raw should be in Miz's spot... I can figure it out...ill look now and edit this post in a few. EDIT: Now, if I post two people who I think are better know this. They are better in the ring. Not on the Mic. Morrison and Ted Jr. Since when has WWE cared how good you are in the ring? Morrison and Ted are blah on the mic, Ted still can't get over even after getting his dads gimmick, belt and Maryse. Miz has more personality, gets a bigger reaction, more charismatic, can talk better than both and is decent in the ring...plus he's improved more than both of them, so how do Morrison and Ted more deserving? No way is Miz more charismatic than Morrison. No way has he improved more than both of them either. Morrison in okay on the Mic, has a heel he is up to par. His promos with Punk during their feud were pretty good. Morrison is better on the Mic. As for the reaction, Miz gets a heel reaction Morrison gets a face reaction. It really is not fair to compare the two. I can only speak for my own personal hate for The Miz. The hate I have is legit you are big tool anda douche hate and I would stab you many times over I want to murder you hate. |
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Post by wwetnajan42010 on Sept 7, 2010 17:18:27 GMT -5
itd be nice if he defended that in belt once in a blue moon! Or lose it, It's almost like they're using it as a decoration on him, like he looks naked without a belt. |
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Sept 7, 2010 17:37:21 GMT -5
Since when has WWE cared how good you are in the ring? Morrison and Ted are blah on the mic, Ted still can't get over even after getting his dads gimmick, belt and Maryse. Miz has more personality, gets a bigger reaction, more charismatic, can talk better than both and is decent in the ring...plus he's improved more than both of them, so how do Morrison and Ted more deserving? No way is Miz more charismatic than Morrison. No way has he improved more than both of them either. Morrison in okay on the Mic, has a heel he is up to par. His promos with Punk during their feud were pretty good. Morrison is better on the Mic. As for the reaction, Miz gets a heel reaction Morrison gets a face reaction. It really is not fair to compare the two. I can only speak for my own personal hate for The Miz. The hate I have is legit you are big tool anda douche hate and I would stab you many times over I want to murder you hate. Which means that nothing you have to say about him should be taken seriously. You did the same with the Diaz brothers in the MMA section dude. You let your hate(which is way too intense seeing you've never never met the guy) effect how you comment on their actual ability. Hate Miz all you want, you're entitled to your opinion. But lets get the bandwagon thing out of the way. How come everytime we all get behind a guy that we weren't before, it's called a bandwagon. Most of us here post on this forum because we are TRUE wrestling fans. Fans who've been watching for years. I'm sick of being reduced to a fair-weather fan everytime I get behind someone who used to suck. I mean seriously, damn all of us for getting behind a guy who put forth the effort to make himself look and perform like a wrestler. People are getting behind the Miz for the same reason that people are finally coming around to Cena. It looks like he's taking himself seriously and there's no denying that deserves to be where he belongs. Second, I think you're completely delusional to say that Morrison's more charismatic than Miz. Since they've broken up, what has Morrison done on the mic other than pander to the fans with generic face comments? I said it before, Morrison's monotone sarcasm worked for him as a heel, but he's now a face who's all about the fans. He needs to step it up. He stood out in the team with The Miz because of his incredible ring work and the fact that visually speaking, at the time Miz looked like a couch potato compared to Morrison. The promo from Raw was ok, but to me it wasn't anything special, or that we haven't heard before. Not to mention that almost any promo with pictures is automatically enhanced imo. I'm sick of getting sh** on becasue I like a guy that I didn't used to. |
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Post by wwetnajan42010 on Sept 7, 2010 17:42:20 GMT -5
No way is Miz more charismatic than Morrison. No way has he improved more than both of them either. Morrison in okay on the Mic, has a heel he is up to par. His promos with Punk during their feud were pretty good. Morrison is better on the Mic. As for the reaction, Miz gets a heel reaction Morrison gets a face reaction. It really is not fair to compare the two. I can only speak for my own personal hate for The Miz. The hate I have is legit you are big tool anda douche hate and I would stab you many times over I want to murder you hate. Which means that nothing you have to say about him should be taken seriously. You did the same with the Diaz brothers in the MMA section dude. You let your hate(which is way too intense seeing you've never never met the guy) effect how you comment on their actual ability. Hate Miz all you want, you're entitled to your opinion. But lets get the bandwagon thing out of the way. How come everytime we all get behind a guy that we weren't before, it's called a bandwagon. Most of us here post on this forum because we are TRUE wrestling fans. Fans who've been watching for years. I'm sick of being reduced to a fair-weather fan everytime I get behind someone who used to suck. I mean seriously, damn all of us for getting behind a guy who put forth the effort to make himself look and perform like a wrestler. People are getting behind the Miz for the same reason that people are finally coming around to Cena. It looks like he's taking himself seriously and there's no denying that deserves to be where he belongs. Second, I think you're completely delusional to say that Morrison's more charismatic than Miz. Since they've broken up, what has Morrison done on the mic other than pander to the fans with generic face comments? I said it before, Morrison's monotone sarcasm worked for him as a heel, but he's now a face who's all about the fans. He needs to step it up. He stood out in the team with The Miz because of his incredible ring work and the fact that visually speaking, at the time Miz looked like a couch potato compared to Morrison. The promo from Raw was ok, but to me it wasn't anything special, or that we haven't heard before. Not to mention that almost any promo with pictures is automatically enhanced imo. I'm sick of getting sh** on becasue I like a guy that I didn't used to. You make some great points, couldn't put it better myself. Thanks. |
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Post by Johnny on Sept 7, 2010 17:46:11 GMT -5
Honestly, other than talking he has not improved THAT much. So, he got a hair cut and some trunks? Good for him, that hardly means he has improved as much as people would like to think. He learned how to do a full nelson face buster that Chris Jericho used to do and gave it a gay name. He has not done anything new in the ring. You can polish a turd all day, but at the end of the day it is still a piece of poop, and so is The Miz. That is just my opinion though. People like you annoy the piss out of me. People don't think he's improved just because "he got a haircut and trunks." That's ridiculous, and if you believe that, you're ridiculous. His mic skills have improved tenfold, his charisma has gone through the roof, his catchphrase makes him easily and instantly identifiable to fans, and while he's not "great" in the ring, he is indeed good and his wrestling ability is only going up. And even if he's not good in the ring, in-ring ability isn't that important in the WWE. Two of the biggest stars of their day, Hogan and Cena, aren't "great" in the ring, but they get the job done with move-sets that excite fans. Bottom line is, unless Miz screws up somehow, he has a very bright future in the WWE. And if it wasn't obvious before, yes, I enjoyed Miz's promo last night. |
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Post by shiftyeyes on Sept 7, 2010 18:01:49 GMT -5
Thing with Miz is, since he moved to RAW last year in the draft he's been pushed steadily, but never as the big player. Against Cena, he was pretty much squashed in the ring, though he was looking quite good on the mic. Then he got the whole US title push against Kofi, and everyone thought he was getting the push, taking the belt getting his own team at Survivor Series, but when you look back, that was to push McIntyre, and Sheamus, as well as allow Kofi to be pushed up the card as well. Miz ended up being kind of a back seat push, without anyone realising, because he was getting attire and theme song changes. It might sound kind of stupid, but despite being pushed as a man holding three championship belts earlier in the year, he didn't really go anywhere until now. I know you all know of that, but Miz to me has only just become a serious uppercarder in the last few months with his Money in the Bank win. He's getting a lot of focus on himself being pushed, rather than him working to push others above him as he has in the past.
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Post by Sandy on Sept 7, 2010 18:04:02 GMT -5
I don't know if anyone else gets this vibe but I feel like a lot of Miz's promo work are shoots. He says some sh** that always makes his opponents give him a look like "I can't believe you just said that sh**"...
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