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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 7, 2010 18:17:33 GMT -5
No way is Miz more charismatic than Morrison. No way has he improved more than both of them either. Morrison in okay on the Mic, has a heel he is up to par. His promos with Punk during their feud were pretty good. Morrison is better on the Mic. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA! HAAAAAAAAAA! Good one. I thought you were being serious in the thread up until now, but that "Morrison is better on the mic" really gave the game away. Nobody in the unretarded world would ever seriously say Morrison is better on the mic than Miz. Well played though, sir. You had me going up until that. Dolph Ziggler is awful, After he loses his Intercontinental Championship, I can see him getting released How is he awful? He's got charisma, he can wrestle, he can talk, he can wrestle, he's exciting, and HE CAN ACTUALLY ING WRESTLE. You are HIGH out of your mind if you think he's "awful". Ziggler is awful, at least at the moment. Every week he seems to have these twenty-minute matches that no crowd cares about. He's got no character, no memorable promos, nothing. Just long, dull matches. And I don't think that's all his fault, either. His little interview on that show that did the WWE Karaoke a few weeks ago was awesome. But he could really do with being traded to Raw. There he might get some personality instead of these long boring pointless matches he has on Smackdown which aren't helping anyone.
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Post by AdamBomb on Sept 7, 2010 19:07:42 GMT -5
Ziggler is awful, at least at the moment. Every week he seems to have these twenty-minute matches that no crowd cares about. He's got no character, no memorable promos, nothing. Just long, dull matches. And I don't think that's all his fault, either. His little interview on that show that did the WWE Karaoke a few weeks ago was awesome. But he could really do with being traded to Raw. There he might get some personality instead of these long boring pointless matches he has on Smackdown which aren't helping anyone. Every week he puts on matches that a lot of people only wish they could pull out. The guy can mat wrestle better than 70% of the roster, he can do flashy moves when he wants to, his knee strikes and punches don't look like ****, his in ring psychology is top notch. Boo hoo he doesn't get a lot of promo time, when he does - he ALWAYS delivers. No character? I guess you missed the guy who is completely full of himself and is using Vickie to get to the top (just like Edge did, and every loves that guy)? Move him to RAW? No. He was on RAW before, on SmackDown he's been allowed to flourish and work his way up. He's had insane matches with guys like Rey, Morrison, and Kofi - had a story line that intertwined with Maria and LayCool (before Maria's release). I guess none of that is memorable... since I easily remember it? How about when he told Vickie he'd drop her if he didn't get an IC title shot? How about how, because of this program with Kofi he's been working, we've got to see a whole new side of Kingston? I'd be VERY surprised to see Ziggler released anytime soon. With more development, and the skills he has - he could easily skyrocket into the main event and be believable. I'm also surprised that apparently, Dolph is the exception to the rule around here of, "less talking, more wrestling in WWE".
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Sept 7, 2010 19:53:04 GMT -5
At first, I f***ing hated The Miz. I wanted him to leave the WWE. But ever since he split up with John Morrison, he's done nothing but impressed everytime he's out in the ring, whether it's in the ring or just on his promos.
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Post by sonofanarchy on Sept 7, 2010 19:59:35 GMT -5
No way is Miz more charismatic than Morrison. No way has he improved more than both of them either. Morrison in okay on the Mic, has a heel he is up to par. His promos with Punk during their feud were pretty good. Morrison is better on the Mic. As for the reaction, Miz gets a heel reaction Morrison gets a face reaction. It really is not fair to compare the two. I can only speak for my own personal hate for The Miz. The hate I have is legit you are big tool anda douche hate and I would stab you many times over I want to murder you hate. Which means that nothing you have to say about him should be taken seriously. You did the same with the Diaz brothers in the MMA section dude. You let your hate(which is way too intense seeing you've never never met the guy) effect how you comment on their actual ability. Hate Miz all you want, you're entitled to your opinion. But lets get the bandwagon thing out of the way. How come everytime we all get behind a guy that we weren't before, it's called a bandwagon. Most of us here post on this forum because we are TRUE wrestling fans. Fans who've been watching for years. I'm sick of being reduced to a fair-weather fan everytime I get behind someone who used to suck. I mean seriously, damn all of us for getting behind a guy who put forth the effort to make himself look and perform like a wrestler. People are getting behind the Miz for the same reason that people are finally coming around to Cena. It looks like he's taking himself seriously and there's no denying that deserves to be where he belongs. Second, I think you're completely delusional to say that Morrison's more charismatic than Miz. Since they've broken up, what has Morrison done on the mic other than pander to the fans with generic face comments? I said it before, Morrison's monotone sarcasm worked for him as a heel, but he's now a face who's all about the fans. He needs to step it up. He stood out in the team with The Miz because of his incredible ring work and the fact that visually speaking, at the time Miz looked like a couch potato compared to Morrison. The promo from Raw was ok, but to me it wasn't anything special, or that we haven't heard before. Not to mention that almost any promo with pictures is automatically enhanced imo. I'm sick of getting sh** on becasue I like a guy that I didn't used to. You just defined bandwagon right there. A group of people getting behind a guy you did not before is a band wagon. It starts with one then becomes a group.
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Post by sonofanarchy on Sept 7, 2010 20:00:57 GMT -5
No way is Miz more charismatic than Morrison. No way has he improved more than both of them either. Morrison in okay on the Mic, has a heel he is up to par. His promos with Punk during their feud were pretty good. Morrison is better on the Mic. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA! HAAAAAAAAAA! Good one. I thought you were being serious in the thread up until now, but that "Morrison is better on the mic" really gave the game away. Nobody in the unretarded world would ever seriously say Morrison is better on the mic than Miz. Well played though, sir. You had me going up until that. How is he awful? He's got charisma, he can wrestle, he can talk, he can wrestle, he's exciting, and HE CAN ACTUALLY ING WRESTLE. You are HIGH out of your mind if you think he's "awful". Ziggler is awful, at least at the moment. Every week he seems to have these twenty-minute matches that no crowd cares about. He's got no character, no memorable promos, nothing. Just long, dull matches. And I don't think that's all his fault, either. His little interview on that show that did the WWE Karaoke a few weeks ago was awesome. But he could really do with being traded to Raw. There he might get some personality instead of these long boring pointless matches he has on Smackdown which aren't helping anyone.[/quote] That was Actually a typo though lol. Miz is better on the mic. When Morrison is a heel though I would only put The Miz ahead of Morrison but a little bit though.
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Post by Johnny on Sept 7, 2010 20:27:18 GMT -5
Which means that nothing you have to say about him should be taken seriously. You did the same with the Diaz brothers in the MMA section dude. You let your hate(which is way too intense seeing you've never never met the guy) effect how you comment on their actual ability. Hate Miz all you want, you're entitled to your opinion. But lets get the bandwagon thing out of the way. How come everytime we all get behind a guy that we weren't before, it's called a bandwagon. Most of us here post on this forum because we are TRUE wrestling fans. Fans who've been watching for years. I'm sick of being reduced to a fair-weather fan everytime I get behind someone who used to suck. I mean seriously, damn all of us for getting behind a guy who put forth the effort to make himself look and perform like a wrestler. People are getting behind the Miz for the same reason that people are finally coming around to Cena. It looks like he's taking himself seriously and there's no denying that deserves to be where he belongs. Second, I think you're completely delusional to say that Morrison's more charismatic than Miz. Since they've broken up, what has Morrison done on the mic other than pander to the fans with generic face comments? I said it before, Morrison's monotone sarcasm worked for him as a heel, but he's now a face who's all about the fans. He needs to step it up. He stood out in the team with The Miz because of his incredible ring work and the fact that visually speaking, at the time Miz looked like a couch potato compared to Morrison. The promo from Raw was ok, but to me it wasn't anything special, or that we haven't heard before. Not to mention that almost any promo with pictures is automatically enhanced imo. I'm sick of getting sh** on becasue I like a guy that I didn't used to. You just defined bandwagon right there. A group of people getting behind a guy you did not before is a band wagon. It starts with one then becomes a group. Wrong. I can start to like the Miz, and not be a bandwagoner. Bandwagon goes deeper than just starting to like someone you didn't like before. A bandwagon is when people start to like that someone or something JUST because they think it's the cool or popular thing to do. Not to mention, a lot of people are starting to like the Miz because before he was untalented and obnoxious, and now he's not.
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Post by sonofanarchy on Sept 7, 2010 20:31:55 GMT -5
You just defined bandwagon right there. A group of people getting behind a guy you did not before is a band wagon. It starts with one then becomes a group. Wrong. I can start to like the Miz, and not be a bandwagoner. Bandwagon goes deeper than just starting to like someone you didn't like before. A bandwagon is when people start to like that someone or something JUST because they think it's the cool or popular thing to do. Not to mention, a lot of people are starting to like the Miz because before he was untalented and obnoxious, and now he's not. He is the same person he always has been? Now, he just wears tights got a new shitty theme song and learned a new move. BTW when people all come together and like some one at the same time asa group which is notrious on WF it is the cool and popular thing to do...just like....wait for it...everything one on here coming together to form the Miz's bandwagon.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Sept 7, 2010 20:50:06 GMT -5
1) I love the Skull Crushing Finale. The movie has always been one of my favorites and I like the name.
2) He has really solid matches every time he goes out there and has for some time now. I know a lot of people complain about move sets and things like that, but that's all bull and it doesn't matter how many moves you can do if you just do them at random.
3) His promos have been consistently great for a long time now as well.
The Miz is currently one of my top 5 guys in WWE and i can't wait until he has the WWE title around his waist.
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Post by sonofanarchy on Sept 7, 2010 21:01:33 GMT -5
1) I love the Skull Crushing Finale. The movie has always been one of my favorites and I like the name. 2) He has really solid matches every time he goes out there and has for some time now. I know a lot of people complain about move sets and things like that, but that's all bull and it doesn't matter how many moves you can do if you just do them at random. 3) His promos have been consistently great for a long time now as well. The Miz is currently one of my top 5 guys in WWE and i can't wait until he has the WWE title around his waist. When they give him the title...they need to book his reign like JBL's if they want it to be a sucessful one. None of this erratic K Miz... you're going to have the title for 34 days until whatever PPV is next.
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Post by jfinnomore on Sept 8, 2010 1:09:24 GMT -5
Wrong. I can start to like the Miz, and not be a bandwagoner. Bandwagon goes deeper than just starting to like someone you didn't like before. A bandwagon is when people start to like that someone or something JUST because they think it's the cool or popular thing to do. Not to mention, a lot of people are starting to like the Miz because before he was untalented and obnoxious, and now he's not. He is the same person he always has been? Now, he just wears tights got a new poopty theme song and learned a new move.
BTW when people all come together and like some one at the same time asa group which is notrious on WF it is the cool and popular thing to do...just like....wait for it...everything one on here coming together to form the Miz's bandwagon. The Miz is a character so no he isn't the same as last year. He's evolved and people started noticing. not a bandwagon.
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Post by miserere on Sept 8, 2010 3:32:13 GMT -5
His promos are god awful, just sayin Better on the mic than Daniel Bryan. And that's where the comparison ends. Bryan can wrestle circles around The Miz.
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Post by wabarrett on Sept 8, 2010 7:03:56 GMT -5
Hate Miz all you want, you're entitled to your opinion. But lets get the bandwagon thing out of the way. How come everytime we all get behind a guy that we weren't before, it's called a bandwagon. Most of us here post on this forum because we are TRUE wrestling fans. Fans who've been watching for years. I'm sick of being reduced to a fair-weather fan everytime I get behind someone who used to suck. I mean seriously, damn all of us for getting behind a guy who put forth the effort to make himself look and perform like a wrestler. People are getting behind the Miz for the same reason that people are finally coming around to Cena. It looks like he's taking himself seriously and there's no denying that deserves to be where he belongs.Second, I think you're completely delusional to say that Morrison's more charismatic than Miz. Since they've broken up, what has Morrison done on the mic other than pander to the fans with generic face comments? I said it before, Morrison's monotone sarcasm worked for him as a heel, but he's now a face who's all about the fans. He needs to step it up. He stood out in the team with The Miz because of his incredible ring work and the fact that visually speaking, at the time Miz looked like a couch potato compared to Morrison. The promo from Raw was ok, but to me it wasn't anything special, or that we haven't heard before. Not to mention that almost any promo with pictures is automatically enhanced imo. I'm sick of getting sh** on becasue I like a guy that I didn't used to. Sorry Badnewz, but that bit in bold is bull crap. Cena hate was at its peak from 2005-2007, and during that time Cena was as hard working, as dedicated to the company, and as good in the ring as he is now. People just hated him because they were idiots who weren't happy that Jericho, Angle or Christian wasn't Champion. However I can understand why people like the Miz now. He has improved, it's been said countless times. With that said, he's still being ridiculously overrated IMO.
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Post by Auel on Sept 8, 2010 10:52:30 GMT -5
Anyone noticed he said Daniel Bryan replaced him on Smackdown instead of Summerslam?
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