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Post by ville on Sept 18, 2010 20:37:44 GMT -5
He was undefeated for a very long time until he fought a real boxer Roy Jones Jr. Like I said, he hasn't beaten any of relevance besides an out of his prime Holyfield. Anyone in the sport of boxing can come up and call themselves champion because of so many titles. IBA and NABO's titles are toys. Toney is also a cheater. I find it funny how you are so quick to hack on Nate Marquart for "cheating", but continue to support James Toney who has tested positive a few times after his fights for banned substances. I like the contrast. Right because Nunn, Johnson and Barkley all suck, GTFO with that excrement . Yea Toney cheated before? Shogun could cheat in his fight with Rashad and I would still be a fan, I would lose a lot of respect but I would still be a huge fan, same with Toney, I just don't like Nate.
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Post by James Hetfield on Sept 18, 2010 20:47:53 GMT -5
Michael Nunn was decent at best. Iran Barkley? The same Iran Barkley that had like a 40-20 record? And Reggie Johnson won that fight, what everyone else thinks. And even IF Nunn was any good, what difference does that make? That was in the early 90s, this is 2010. Even talking about Toney being in boxing SHAPE is laughable, let alone having champions skill. Barkley and Nunn were champions. Why? Because like I said before, anyone can be champion of some no-name sanctioning body of boxing and it doesn't mean sh*t to me. A REAL champion would unify titles, something Toney never did because he wouldn't face top guys. Put him in there now with either of the Klitschko brothers, or even someone lower like Eddie Chambers or Chris Arreola and watch him go down.
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Post by ville on Sept 18, 2010 20:54:42 GMT -5
Michael Nunn was decent at best. Iran Barkley? The same Iran Barkley that had like a 40-20 record? And Reggie Johnson won that fight, what everyone else thinks. And even IF Nunn was any good, what difference does that make? That was in the early 90s, this is 2010. Even talking about Toney being in boxing SHAPE is laughable, let alone having champions skill. Barkley and Nunn were champions. Why? Because like I said before, anyone can be champion of some no-name sanctioning body of boxing and it doesn't mean sh*t to me. A REAL champion would unify titles, something Toney never did because he wouldn't face top guys. Put him in there now with either of the Klitschko brothers, or even someone lower like Eddie Chambers or Chris Arreola and watch him go down. I never said Toney was GOAT, even at Middleweight he wasn't the best, he was a force though. Did I ever say he could beat someone like the Klitschko brothers or any top Boxing talent? NO! He is good for up and coming fighters and that's about it. But he isn't "terrible" either, but I think he would beat Vitor.
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