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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 17, 2011 22:58:50 GMT -5
KG is fine, 30 minutes 19 points.
There is still 6 weeks before the trade deadline, if Melo stands firm and really doesnt meet with NJ then its over, but its not like he cant change him mind or was told to say things differently to the media.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 17, 2011 23:33:10 GMT -5
KG is fine, 30 minutes 19 points. There is still 6 weeks before the trade deadline, if Melo stands firm and really doesnt meet with NJ then its over, but its not like he cant change him mind or was told to say things differently to the media. Yea that was a good win for Boston but we'll see how he holds up (last time he came back he didn't). I wouldn't say he's absolutely fine, he had a new brace on his knee. As for Melo, I still think if he's smart he's a Knick by July. The only other place I'd want to be is Orlando. He obviously wants to play with a big (listing Houston until Yao got hurt). But then again, nobody listened to me up until this point and even if it makes sense, yes, anything can still happen and he could end up lots of places if a miracle mega trade works out. But it's been since September and.... nothing. Btw, Donnie Walsh was quoted today saying he thinks he could get 2 first rounders... I'm not so sure how that would work. 1 first rounder, sure. But 2? Hard to see it. You should want them to get him, this time next year it could be Miami all alone at the top of the East.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 17, 2011 23:38:41 GMT -5
Thunder/Laker game on TNT is pretty competitve and entertaining so far. Not quite playoff level but both teams seem to be treating it as an important game.
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Post by Greg Weinstein on Jan 17, 2011 23:42:24 GMT -5
I don't want to sound reeeeaaaalllyyy cliche with this, but I get a little wet down there every time I see Kevin Durant shoot. It's ridiculous.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 17, 2011 23:53:03 GMT -5
I usually am more impressed when I see somebody throw him a lead pass that looks like there is just no way he should be able to get it and he still reaches out and gets it over 2 defenders
he is a freak but I'd still like to see him add to his back to the basket game.
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Post by Nash on Jan 18, 2011 19:26:19 GMT -5
Derrick Rose with his first career triple-double. I was surprised he hasn't had one before, I know he's been close a few times. Yeah I too was surprised that it was his first, but yeah like you said, I'm pretty sure he came close more than a few times. Really impressed to see how well this team is playing without Boozer and Noah. Little frustrated about Boozer. I knew that his injuries are what you get with him, so whatever I guess....hopefully he's back sooner than later. Although they have played well without either of them, I dont know how long that can hold up. As for all the trade talk, I could care less where Melo goes at this point . The way I see it is that if its Jersey, he'll be a three month rent-a-player and sign with NY in the offseason. My personal opinion is just finish out with Denver and see what happens. The team they have constructed isn't completely horrible. And when you look at the west, past San Antonio, no one really looks like they're a lock for the finals (LA even showing signs of mortality lately) Oh and as for Mayo, I would love for the Bulls to try and get something together for him. I for one am tired of Bogans just getting the charity start every night because of his defense. I could come closer to making the jumpers that he consistently air-balls. I would probably be willing to do a Bogans/Johnson/Gibson for Mayo. Though with the instability of Boozer, I might be hessitent to part ways with Gibson. The fact still remains though that they are very weak at the 2 spot, and whether it be for Stephen Jackson, J.R. Smith, Mayo, or anyone else not named Keith Bogans, I think they should jump on it.
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Post by BuckDenaro7: Elite Trader on Jan 18, 2011 22:05:41 GMT -5
This Heat/Hawks game is really good. Its a defensive battle. Watching it makes me see how good LBJ actually is. I never paid attention to him because of his ego.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 19, 2011 0:19:19 GMT -5
I could buy into the idea of Stephen Jackson on the Bulls. He was real good in San Antonio floating the perimeter while Parker drove the lane much like the motion Rose brings to an offense. The more I think of it, he's like the perfect fit... He can get his own mid range shot just like John Salmons used to for the Bulls and he also still commands attention even if slumping. He fits next to Rose about as well as a SG will at that level of talent.
I dunno how Mayo would do there next to Rose and Boozer's styles but Jackson probably would embrace it and succeed due to past success in SA and being stuck where he is now.
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Post by user9327 on Jan 19, 2011 0:37:31 GMT -5
Holy crap... tonight the Heat got a total of 3 points from the Center and PF positions (includes bench)
2 from Big Z and 1 from Juwan Howard.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 19, 2011 0:45:30 GMT -5
What would the Bulls offer for these players? They dont have much in the way of trade-able assets.
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Post by Quanthor on Jan 19, 2011 1:05:03 GMT -5
I'm stoked for Thursday's game, I get to see Blake Griffin in ACTION!
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Post by user9327 on Jan 19, 2011 2:23:49 GMT -5
I'm stoked for Thursday's game, I get to see Blake Griffin in ACTION! Yea after what he did yesterday, going to see him is as good as seeing any other superstar in the league. Not to mention when he stared down all the Heat and even LeBron looked away like he wouldn't mess with him.
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Post by Nash on Jan 19, 2011 12:08:08 GMT -5
I could buy into the idea of Stephen Jackson on the Bulls. He was real good in San Antonio floating the perimeter while Parker drove the lane much like the motion Rose brings to an offense. The more I think of it, he's like the perfect fit... He can get his own mid range shot just like John Salmons used to for the Bulls and he also still commands attention even if slumping. He fits next to Rose about as well as a SG will at that level of talent. I dunno how Mayo would do there next to Rose and Boozer's styles but Jackson probably would embrace it and succeed due to past success in SA and being stuck where he is now. Yeah Jackson would probably be the most ideal as far as on court wise goes. It might be hard to match up the salaries. The reason I brought up Mayo as the main option is cause his contract matches up with Bogans/Johnson/Gibson. To get Jackson here, might have to involve another team, and I'd be all for that. I could imagine the Cats trying to shop most of their players at this point. What would the Bulls offer for these players? They dont have much in the way of trade-able assets. Yeah the Bogans/Johnson/Gibson combination is really all you can come up with, and the only one that most teams would probably take a liking to is Gibson. And even with Boozer injured now, I dont know how quick I would be to dump him just quite yet. If they can get a third team involved though, maybe something could work out, or maybe its just my false hope I dunno. But it pains me to watch Bogans start every night, thats all I know.
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Post by BV on Jan 19, 2011 18:20:16 GMT -5
New Jersey Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov has team drop Carmelo Anthony deal. Can't say I disagree with this. Why trade just about everything for old players and Melo? You wouldn't become an elite team and you wouldn't have the picks or players to continue to build that team. Add that Melo has a piss poor attitude about all of this. I like LeBron, but a trend is about to continue with star players wanting to join other stars to win a title, instead of building a legacy. Nash is the complete opposite of this. Even Suns fans have said they should trade him, for the betterment of Nash, but he doesn't want to be traded. He wants to finish his legacy.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 19, 2011 18:26:58 GMT -5
New Jersey Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov has team drop Carmelo Anthony deal. Can't say I disagree with this. Why trade just about everything for old players and Melo? You wouldn't become an elite team and you wouldn't have the picks or players to continue to build that team. Add that Melo has a piss poor attitude about all of this. I like LeBron, but a trend is about to continue with star players wanting to join other stars to win a title, instead of building a legacy. Nash is the complete opposite of this. Even Suns fans have said they should trade him, for the betterment of Nash, but he doesn't want to be traded. He wants to finish his legacy. I think this is posturing. Plain and simple. You have 5 weeks until the deadline. You arent closing the door on anything January 19th. Truthfully, I think the Nets were pissed off at the Nuggets and Melo and this is an ultimatum type thing. I think you hear rumors about them talking again by the end of next week. or The Nuggets just trade him to the best offer and say his extension. This is dragging out worse than the Lebron nonsense
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Post by Quanthor on Jan 19, 2011 18:52:50 GMT -5
They should have dealt him in the Summer, but they waited and hoped he'd still resign or that a better deal would come along.
On the flipside, they don't HAVE to trade him, they could keep him and just let him walk, giving the club more financial flexability. It's not like they were going to get anything great in return anyways. The best they could have hoped for is multiple high draft picks and cap relief. I don't know if Favors is really guy that's going to help the franchise much, he's a project player and a half, could take years before he does(if he does) anything in the NBA.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 19, 2011 19:25:32 GMT -5
They should have dealt him in the Summer, but they waited and hoped he'd still resign or that a better deal would come along. On the flipside, they don't HAVE to trade him, they could keep him and just let him walk, giving the club more financial flexability. It's not like they were going to get anything great in return anyways. The best they could have hoped for is multiple high draft picks and cap relief. I don't know if Favors is really guy that's going to help the franchise much, he's a project player and a half, could take years before he does(if he does) anything in the NBA. I'd gladly take Favors over....nothing. He has more upside over anything the Nuggets could possibly get back, in any deal. Denver is not just gonna let him walk, they can get cap relief by trading him too
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Post by Quanthor on Jan 19, 2011 20:06:41 GMT -5
You're not really getting NOTHING, you're getting MORE financial flexability than if you trade him for players, especially for raw unproven commodities like Favors, who is gonna cost the team around $5mil a year.
Anytime a team trades a player it never works out, they always get junk because nobody wants to keep junk..that's why they're trading to begin with. Unless I can get draft picks, good ones, I'd let him walk, make him go through the free agency process in a lockout year.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 19, 2011 20:31:38 GMT -5
You're not really getting NOTHING, you're getting MORE financial flexability than if you trade him for players, especially for raw unproven commodities like Favors, who is gonna cost the team around $5mil a year. Anytime a team trades a player it never works out, they always get junk because nobody wants to keep junk..that's why they're trading to begin with. Unless I can get draft picks, good ones, I'd let him walk, make him go through the free agency process in a lockout year. I think you are the only one who wouldnt take Favors and picks, compared to taking....absolutely nothing. Favors has superstar upside and the picks will be decent, so why wouldnt you want them over.....absolutely nothing?
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Post by Quanthor on Jan 19, 2011 20:43:58 GMT -5
I'd take picks, I stated that already and again you're failing the realize that saving money is a big deal in today's NBA. They need to blow it up and have to start getting as much financial alleviation as possible and lots of draft picks for next year and years down the road.
Just because some scout said some player is gonna be big doesn't make it so, he's clearly raw and a major project player. These kind of guys can go either way, but more ofter than not they don't materialize into anything fruitful. Are taking this guy why? Because it's all you can get? Why bother? Shape your own franchise with players YOU want taht suit YOUR needs, instead of accepting junk from a team taht clearly doesn't think that highly of him.
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