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Post by user9327 on Nov 2, 2010 22:27:31 GMT -5
I was just watching a little bit of Thabeet guarding Pau Gasol on NBA fan night...
not bad on defense, not bad at all. Made Gasol look uncomfortable and timid twice in one possession. Also forced an air ball outta him.
Thabeet may still be miles away from a legit starting Center, or any offensive production, but he's not a lost cause... yet.
But yea, the Lakers look scary. Kobe is supposed to still be beat up and he's averaging great numbers all over, they don't even have Bynum and they are 3-0, about to be 4-0. Also... they have Ron Artest and Lamar Odom, nuf said.
With the West being depleted, I think the Lakers only concerning task is OKC, who still aren't proven to make that run again.
Boston needs homecourt to have a chance this June.
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Post by Dexter Morgan on Nov 3, 2010 1:54:24 GMT -5
I was just watching a little bit of Thabeet guarding Pau Gasol on NBA fan night... not bad on defense, not bad at all. Made Gasol look uncomfortable and timid twice in one possession. Also forced an air ball outta him. Thabeet may still be miles away from a legit starting Center, or any offensive production, but he's not a lost cause... yet. But yea, the Lakers look scary. Kobe is supposed to still be beat up and he's averaging great numbers all over, they don't even have Bynum and they are 3-0, about to be 4-0. Also... they have Ron Artest and Lamar Odom, nuf said. With the West being depleted, I think the Lakers only concerning task is OKC, who still aren't proven to make that run again. Boston needs homecourt to have a chance this June. I still don't understand why people just completely count out the whole western conference besides LA. I mean Oklahoma City, New Orleans, Portland, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio. All those teams could be dangerous. Oklahoma is young and gained tons of experience last year, if New Orleans can stay healthy they look tough, Portland could be a #2 seed if they don't get raped by injuries, never count out Dallas and San Antonio perennial playoff teams, Houston got Yao back and Scola looks improved, hell Memphis could come into their own this year too. To just hand LA the title is silly, Bynum needs to stay healthy as does Kobe, Artest could have a meltdown at any time, the people they signed Blake and Barnes? Really I mean Blake couldn't make it as a backup PG in Portland and Barnes is Artest 2.0 but not as good on defense. I mean yeah LA is LA but I'm still amazed people write off every team in the West besides them and sometimes the Thunder.
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Post by user9327 on Nov 3, 2010 2:08:07 GMT -5
yea I don't downplay those teams you named... I just think Houston and OKC are really the only two that match up right now and could give them trouble in a 7 game series due to speed and size. If Yao stays healthy they could be the toughest team they face. Scola has been on fire in the league this year.
Portland could easily be a top seed. But, their second scoring option has to be established. Right now it's looked like Miller and Aldridge at different parts of the game. Roy is one of the best players in the league but I think he gets better when one of those guys becomes a potential double or shading defensive threat.
If Aldridge can command a double, he and Roy are going to be that much more effective. Out of all the Western teams in question, I like Houston and Portland the most. I'm not so sure about Utah as a Conference contender but they're always competitive.
Most of the secondary East teams would still be in for a bigger battle in the West outside of the Lakers. The Lakers are looking for a 3peat and 4th consecutive Finals run... just sayin, I'm putting them there until they get beat.
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Post by Dexter Morgan on Nov 3, 2010 2:43:42 GMT -5
yea I don't downplay those teams you named... I just think Houston and OKC are really the only two that match up right now and could give them trouble in a 7 game series due to speed and size. If Yao stays healthy they could be the toughest team they face. Scola has been on fire in the league this year. Portland could easily be a top seed. But, their second scoring option has to be established. Right now it's looked like Miller and Aldridge at different parts of the game. Roy is one of the best players in the league but I think he gets better when one of those guys becomes a potential double or shading defensive threat. If Aldridge can command a double, he and Roy are going to be that much more effective. Out of all the Western teams in question, I like Houston and Portland the most. I'm not so sure about Utah as a Conference contender but they're always competitive. Most of the secondary East teams would still be in for a bigger battle in the West outside of the Lakers. The Lakers are looking for a 3peat and 4th consecutive Finals run... just sayin, I'm putting them there until they get beat. No I agree that until LA is beat you have to say they have the best shot but literally 90% of the stuff I've read is just trashing everyone in the West. Hell they do it to the East as well. They mention Boston, Miami, and Orlando. The thing with sports is that anything can happen. So many teams in the NBA can become at least legit playoff contenders this year it's not funny. All the teams have a chance until they are officially out of it. This year will be fun to watch and see how it unfolds.
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Post by Quanthor on Nov 3, 2010 3:19:50 GMT -5
I subscribe to the idea that anything can happen in sports unless it pertains to the NBA. The NBA is a league of few surprises, you don't see teams that were never expected to be in the playoffs or even in the Finals go on and win the championship. It's pretty cut and dry and it's been this way since I started following the sport over 20 years ago.
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Post by user9327 on Nov 3, 2010 12:49:20 GMT -5
Yea I mean, outside of the 2004 Pistons, the best team usually wins. The Lakers didn't win in 2004 mostly because Kobe was being a douche.
Miami looks to be tearing teams up, but I still think experienced teams with size will give them trouble this year.
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Post by instant classic on Nov 3, 2010 14:00:21 GMT -5
Yea I mean, outside of the 2004 Pistons, the best team usually wins. The Lakers didn't win in 2004 mostly because Kobe was being a douche. Injuries killed that season not kobe. If Malone, Fox and Horace Grant were all healthy we would have won easily. You can't expect to win a title with slava medvedenko as a starter.
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Post by Jamal on Nov 3, 2010 16:20:33 GMT -5
In basketball its almost impossible for an inferior team to win in a 7 game series. Thats just the nature of the sport.
Sure the Mavs got upset a couple years ago, but that doesn't happen very often.
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Post by user9327 on Nov 3, 2010 18:59:52 GMT -5
Yea I mean, outside of the 2004 Pistons, the best team usually wins. The Lakers didn't win in 2004 mostly because Kobe was being a douche. Injuries killed that season not kobe. If Malone, Fox and Horace Grant were all healthy we would have won easily. You can't expect to win a title with slava medvedenko as a starter. I respectfully beg to differ. There were numorous times in every game that Kobe shot less than 8 seconds into the shot clock without anyone but himself touching the ball. On crucial possessions. I just vividly remember Shaq walking up the court on offense as if he knew he was never getting the ball. Kobe and Shaq alone were in their primes and 10 times better than anything Detroit had. Chauncy Billups was ripping Gary Payton a new one on offense, as well. He couldn't stay in front of him to save his career. They got beat because Detroit executed and LA didn't. I know you remember it even though you were a 76ers fan at the time. LA wasn't even running their offense and Kobe and Payton had no chemistry on defense. Phil Jackson also had a similar account in his book. Saying Kobe was really wrecking the offense that series. Kobe didn't want to play ball with those guys anymore and that's why they were all gone after that. Payton actually had Boston playing pretty decent the following year, for a stretch. Kobe was going through a tough time with the rape issue as well. Missing practices and tending to that. It was a very strange year for LA, in the least. Kobe wanted the ball in his hands more than the point guard and he wasn't working through the post at all, like he does with Gasol now. In some ways Detroit's championship is known to me more as Kobe giving it to them than it is their true unity. They definitely outplayed them, but we didn't see LA's best at all.
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Post by LA Times on Nov 3, 2010 19:39:34 GMT -5
I subscribe to the idea that anything can happen in sports unless it pertains to the NBA. The NBA is a league of few surprises, you don't see teams that were never expected to be in the playoffs or even in the Finals go on and win the championship. It's pretty cut and dry and it's been this way since I started following the sport over 20 years ago. Only 8 teams have won the NBA Championship since 1980. Major upsets only happen in the first round of the playoffs a la Nuggets/Sonics 94 and Warriors/Mavericks 07 and nothing beyond that.
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Post by user9327 on Nov 3, 2010 22:01:31 GMT -5
Ugh the KG comment about cancer patients really was stupid but people are making too big of a deal out of it. It was just stupid.
Although if I were a cancer patient or Charlie Villanueva, I suppose I may think it was completely out of line.
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Post by BV on Nov 3, 2010 22:12:30 GMT -5
Hornets beat the Rockets. 4-0. WHAT THE
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Post by user9327 on Nov 3, 2010 22:17:42 GMT -5
That's why CP3 is the best point guard in the league.
No offense to your team outside of Ariza... but yikes. Paul really makes those guys play great.
I mean he and Deron Williams are taking Al Jefferson and David West and trying to go deep in the West...
Imagine what they'd do as part of a big 3 or with a big 3.
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Post by extreme on Nov 3, 2010 23:01:11 GMT -5
Nice to see Hornets doing well. Maybe a repeat of the 2007 regular season for them?
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Post by BV on Nov 3, 2010 23:05:59 GMT -5
That's why CP3 is the best point guard in the league. No offense to your team outside of Ariza... but yikes. Paul really makes those guys play great. I mean he and Deron Williams are taking Al Jefferson and David West and trying to go deep in the West... Imagine what they'd do as part of a big 3 or with a big 3. West looks like a god around CP3. All game pick and pop at the FT line. When CP3 can make Marco Belinelli look good, I mean come on.
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Post by user9327 on Nov 4, 2010 0:25:05 GMT -5
the year West had a bad back and couldn't do much, but Chris Paul got all that production out of him all the way through the playoffs... that was just ridiculous.
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Post by instant classic on Nov 4, 2010 0:28:09 GMT -5
I respectfully beg to differ. There were numorous times in every game that Kobe shot less than 8 seconds into the shot clock without anyone but himself touching the ball. On crucial possessions. I'll agree with you there. But who was he going to pass to when shaq was in foul trouble or being double teamed? Slava? devean george? a struggling gary payton? I just vividly remember Shaq walking up the court on offense as if he knew he was never getting the ball. I also remember shaq saying that if he didn't get the ball he wouldn't bother playing any d. Kobe and Shaq alone were in their primes and 10 times better than anything Detroit had. Shaq was on a big decline that year. Nowhere near as good as he was during the 3peat. Chauncy Billups was ripping Gary Payton a new one on offense, as well. He couldn't stay in front of him to save his career. Gary was pretty useless in the series. He wasn't the best fit for the triangle either. I wish we would have signed pippen instead of him. They got beat because Detroit executed and LA didn't. I know you remember it even though you were a 76ers fan at the time. LA wasn't even running their offense and Kobe and Payton had no chemistry on defense. sixers fan? Kobe and shaq had lost all offensive chemistry due to their off court feud. Phil Jackson also had a similar account in his book. Saying Kobe was really wrecking the offense that series. Read the whole book. He puts just as much blame on shaq. Kobe didn't want to play ball with those guys anymore and that's why they were all gone after that. They wanted Karl back but he chose to retire. I still say they win easily if those 3 were healthy. Even with the kobe & shaq bs.
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Post by user9327 on Nov 4, 2010 0:32:26 GMT -5
Fair enough. Shaq was out of shape a bit so I can agree with that much. Between Shaq's fitness, the injuries to other players and Kobe's off the court issues... yea it's a lethal mix.
I just think in general it was a lot of egos and let's just at least agree that it was a shame and a black mark on all of their careers.
I coulda sworn you were the same Captain Charisma who liked the 76ers a few years ago lol. I dunno maybe I am wrong, but we had a 76ers fan here once.
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Post by instant classic on Nov 4, 2010 0:52:59 GMT -5
Agreed.
Kobe and shaq both went on to win more rings. Gary got his. I Feel bad for karl though, 0-3 in the finals. dude deserved a ring.
nope, never was a sixer fan. lol
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Post by user9327 on Nov 4, 2010 1:09:43 GMT -5
speaking of Kobe... that dude is sick right now.
They're undefeated, he's got a bum knee, a bad finger and he's still putting up really good numbers on the year....
and then he has a triple double tonight.
That's sick.
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