Nash
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Post by Nash on Feb 18, 2011 16:31:20 GMT -5
If the Nets fail for the 3rd time I will feel bad for them. If he wouldn't do the last trade, it's tough to think after coming all this way that he's going to do it now. Wednesday is going to take forever Yea, but you gotta admit, if the Nets do get it done, thats a HUGE disssapointment from the Knicks side of things. As many people have been saying, they pretty much we're on the clock for Melo as soon as LeBron said south beach. If after all this time they couldnt get it done cause they weren't willing to deal three starters, then yeah thats nothing to be proud of. I think if Melo does accept this, it wouldnt be as bad, and really would make them a top five or six team. Def not this year, but with him, Lopez will not have as much of the spotlight on him which will take pressure off him and allow him to play more naturally. Billups with the vet experience can always hit a big shot. They would for sure be a team to watch out for.
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Post by user9327 on Feb 18, 2011 18:19:01 GMT -5
If the Nets fail for the 3rd time I will feel bad for them. If he wouldn't do the last trade, it's tough to think after coming all this way that he's going to do it now. Wednesday is going to take forever Yea, but you gotta admit, if the Nets do get it done, thats a HUGE disssapointment from the Knicks side of things. As many people have been saying, they pretty much we're on the clock for Melo as soon as LeBron said south beach. If after all this time they couldnt get it done cause they weren't willing to deal three starters, then yeah thats nothing to be proud of. I think if Melo does accept this, it wouldnt be as bad, and really would make them a top five or six team. Def not this year, but with him, Lopez will not have as much of the spotlight on him which will take pressure off him and allow him to play more naturally. Billups with the vet experience can always hit a big shot. They would for sure be a team to watch out for. Sure it would be a letdown but gutting our entire team would be as well. Denver's crazy. That's why you don't see me talk much about this; it's all BS and a new "story" twice a day. I'm just waiting for Wednesday. Also, it's been reported now by espn that Melo is saying it's "news to me" and if he were to meet with the Nets owner he "really doesn't know what he'd say to the guy." not sounding too good. The only source confirming the trade is some local NJ paper. Not sounding too reliable. It's also reported that Melo already met with the Knicks last night. In other words it's all rumors and I'm still sick of it. NJ would still suck anyway. Seriously, they'd be worse than Denver is now and that's not winning a championship. Obviously I want him on NY but I don't want the team set back because of it. It's not like Boston gave Minnesota anything that worked out for them in the Garnett trade. They wouldn't have traded Ray Allen, Rondo, Perkins, a pick, etc. That's what Denver wants from us. They need to realize he's their problem not ours and with or without him we still have a good cap situation. The Knicks future doesn't live and die on Melo; just immediate championship hopes. I think overall everybody is making a bigger deal out of it than it really is for the Knicks and for Denver. I'm generally turned off by the ordeal.
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christianedge
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Post by christianedge on Feb 18, 2011 22:31:34 GMT -5
If this trade does go through, I'm picking up Melvin Ely in my fantasy league LOL.
Didn't Chauncey want to be bought out if he goes anywhere?
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Post by user9327 on Feb 18, 2011 23:01:26 GMT -5
Cousins was nasty out there. Didn't know he could jump that high. Hits his free throws too.
Favors looked weak, getting blocked twice in an all star game and missing free throws and shots. Also noticed he doesn't jump as high as Griffin and Cousins. Didn't play much though probably cuz of the trade in principle. He wore GT colors on his feet because "he may not be with his team after the break."
Boy am I glad half of my team is in trade limbo also!1
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Post by christianedge on Feb 19, 2011 0:23:01 GMT -5
I'm hoping the all-star game is over 250 total. Haven't watched it in 5 years because of work. 45 minutes of high scoring, highlight offense and 3 minutes of intense D lol. I hope the Saturday night encore pumps me more! All-star game > elimination chamber
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Post by user9327 on Feb 19, 2011 1:15:24 GMT -5
I have high hopes for this dunk contest. Obviously Griffin is the man but Derozan did great dunks last year and McGee looks like he could deliver.
I think the Legends Fantasy draft is earlier at like 7ish, not sure though.
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Post by The Immortal Antichrist on Feb 19, 2011 1:28:31 GMT -5
The rookie vs sophmores was a pretty entertaining game tonight. I thought cousins might get the MVP though. Also Devin Harris for the Nets he's still not being mentioned in the Carmelo trade is he. I heard the Knicks up there offer so I was just curious if Melo did get dealt to the Knicks would it be a three or even four team trade.
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Post by BV on Feb 19, 2011 13:22:58 GMT -5
Why'd the get if the Horse competition? That was sorta fun.
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Post by spamdfms101 on Feb 19, 2011 13:38:09 GMT -5
I really hope the knicks dont trade danilo and wilson chandler for melo. I realllllllyy dont want to get rid of either guy. Screw melo. If he isnt willing to just wait a few months if it means that the team will be better, then I dont want him on my team.
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Post by BV on Feb 19, 2011 13:46:11 GMT -5
I really hope the knicks dont trade danilo and wilson chandler for melo. I realllllllyy dont want to get rid of either guy. Screw melo. If he isnt willing to just wait a few months if it means that the team will be better, then I dont want him on my team. He is willing to wait though, he really isn't pushing for this deal. He knows he either gets traded now or leaves in FA. It's all the Nuggets just wanting to get value back. Blame New Jersey for basically "attempting" to get back into the loop just to raise the price on Melo for New York.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 19, 2011 14:22:38 GMT -5
I really hope the knicks dont trade danilo and wilson chandler for melo. I realllllllyy dont want to get rid of either guy. Screw melo. If he isnt willing to just wait a few months if it means that the team will be better, then I dont want him on my team. He is willing to wait though, he really isn't pushing for this deal. He knows he either gets traded now or leaves in FA. It's all the Nuggets just wanting to get value back. Blame New Jersey for basically "attempting" to get back into the loop just to raise the price on Melo for New York. Stupid New Jersey! God forbid they try to get Carmelo Anthony!
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Post by user9327 on Feb 19, 2011 15:54:44 GMT -5
This has all been a waste of time again:
It's coming out that Melo won't extend with NJ.
It's also reported that he isn't going to meet with Prokhorov and will not be.
Melo met with the Knicks Thursday.
I'm still sticking with my claim from September that Denver trades him at the deadline for less value than ever reported due to having their hands tied at the deadline.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 19, 2011 19:06:24 GMT -5
This has all been a waste of time again: It's coming out that Melo won't extend with NJ. It's also reported that he isn't going to meet with Prokhorov and will not be. Melo met with the Knicks Thursday. I'm still sticking with my claim from September that Denver trades him at the deadline for less value than ever reported due to having their hands tied at the deadline. But if they are getting the supposed rumored package of Gallinari or Mozgov/Fields, Chandler, Curry, Felton and a pick for Billups and Melo, thats not having your hands tied. Thats getting a fantastic deal. Its actually the Knicks overpaying, if it turns out to be the real deal. If it goes through.
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Post by user9327 on Feb 19, 2011 19:58:37 GMT -5
This has all been a waste of time again: It's coming out that Melo won't extend with NJ. It's also reported that he isn't going to meet with Prokhorov and will not be. Melo met with the Knicks Thursday. I'm still sticking with my claim from September that Denver trades him at the deadline for less value than ever reported due to having their hands tied at the deadline. But if they are getting the supposed rumored package of Gallinari or Mozgov/Fields, Chandler, Curry, Felton and a pick for Billups and Melo, thats not having your hands tied. Thats getting a fantastic deal. Its actually the Knicks overpaying, if it turns out to be the real deal. If it goes through. Honestly I haven't thought that much about it cuz that offer is yesterday's news, based off of the threat of NJ. That's not even close to over paying. This is Carmelo Anthony we're talking about. Outside of LeBron and arguably Derrick Rose; he'd absolutely be the best player in the Eastern conference. Are you saying if you were the Knicks you wouldn't do this deal and secure Amare and Melo for at least the next 3 seasons? With cap room depending on how you play it? You'd rather keep Chandler in restricted Free agency... and one of Fields or Danilo? You went from calling Chandler and Fields glorified 6th men and saying the Knicks have nothing to offer that they'd want, in general, to saying it's a fantastic deal? How does that reasoning work? In your eyes it should be a rip off; the Knicks have no valuable assets. Well what is it? They are good only if we're losing them? But if they are Knicks they are as worthless as ever? I had no idea you thought so highly of Chandler, Danilo, Fields and Mozgov.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 19, 2011 20:14:45 GMT -5
But if they are getting the supposed rumored package of Gallinari or Mozgov/Fields, Chandler, Curry, Felton and a pick for Billups and Melo, thats not having your hands tied. Thats getting a fantastic deal. Its actually the Knicks overpaying, if it turns out to be the real deal. If it goes through. Honestly I haven't thought that much about it cuz that offer is yesterday's news, based off of the threat of NJ. That's not even close to over paying. This is Carmelo Anthony we're talking about. Outside of LeBron and arguably Derrick Rose; he'd absolutely be the best player in the Eastern conference. Are you saying if you were the Knicks you wouldn't do this deal and secure Amare and Melo for at least the next 3 seasons? With cap room depending on how you play it? You'd rather keep Chandler in restricted Free agency... and one of Fields or Danilo? You went from calling Chandler and Fields glorified 6th men and saying the Knicks have nothing to offer that they'd want, in general, to saying it's a fantastic deal? How does that reasoning work? In your eyes it should be a rip off; the Knicks have no valuable assets. Well what is it? They are good only if we're losing them? But if they are Knicks they are as worthless as ever? I had no idea you thought so highly of Chandler, Danilo, Fields and Mozgov. Stop trying to pick a fight, I never said anything of the sort. I am just saying, the Nuggets hands are not tied if they are getting a better deal than what was originally offered. I do think its a lot and I dont view Carmelo as highly as you do, but then again if he wont go to NJ and the Knicks are just bidding against themselves....again...the Nuggets hands are not tied if they are getting a better deal. That was not my point, nor was it to argue about Landry Fields or whomever else.
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Post by user9327 on Feb 19, 2011 20:23:11 GMT -5
I just remember you calling Chandler and Fields 6th men at best. Now it's a "great deal" for Denver and a rip off for the Knicks? I just don't follow you on this one.
You'd want all those guys over Melo and Billups if you were NY or Denver? Really?
Denver is resorting to possibly trading their Franchise player to rebuild... their Franchise player wants out and they have been in trade talks for 3 months. How are their hands not tied? They are doing something they don't want to do; trade Carmelo. Isn't that having your hands tied?
I am not sure how I am "picking a fight," you're responding to me. I'm just talking about basketball and what you're saying.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 19, 2011 20:45:35 GMT -5
I couldnt pick Landry Fields out of a lineup, is he white?
Chandler is a 6th man, he is not someone you base a deal around...but if you add guys like Gallinari/Mozgov/Fields/picks etc ALONG with Chandler, its an actual deal.
Your hands are tied if you are forced to take a lower than average deal to just get something, which the Chandler/Brewer deal was, but now the Nets are involved and their offer is on par or whatever with the Knicks, and supposedly Dolan is adding to the offer.
My point is, if he was never going to NJ, why is Dolan upping his offer? Doesnt sound like the Nuggets are in a tough position and they are not being forced to do anything. James Dolan is creating leverage for the Nuggets....again, if all this is true.
If the Knicks give up more than the original pupu platter of mediocrity that was rumored a few weeks ago, then they have succeeded in doing what they needed to.
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Post by user9327 on Feb 19, 2011 21:09:44 GMT -5
Who cares? It's all star Saturday and this Knicks trade offer is yesterday's news.
Once again, I think if it happens it's right at the deadline when the Nuggets have their hands tied due to potentially losing him.
I realize you have disagreed with this for months and it's getting closer to a reality and now you'd like to redefine MY understanding of "having your hands tied," but I still see Denver having to trade him to the Knicks as the worst possible situation for them. You don't, I get it, you don't value Melo or whatever.
They've tried to keep him through out all this. If you really think all of these Knicks role players is their first choice over keeping Melo then I respect your opinion but I still say it's having your hands tied because you have to trade him to your LAST CHOICE team in the Knicks. They've even said this; it's pretty simple.
Otherwise I don't think the thread wants to see 2 pages of a Celtic fan restating to a Knicks fan his opinion on the negatives of a Melo trade for the Knicks.
Denver has clearly said the Knicks would be their last resort. So... yea.
I'm going to enjoy All Star Saturday now.
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Post by BV on Feb 19, 2011 21:13:05 GMT -5
CP3 really just missed a layup.
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Post by BV on Feb 19, 2011 23:14:17 GMT -5
Griffin could of won with finger rolls...everyone is on his nuts. Ibaka was robbed. First to do a legit FT line dunk and doesn't even advance.
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