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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 23, 2011 11:18:14 GMT -5
In a breaking news story, the Utah Jazz and the New Jersey Nets have come to terms in a three team deal that would send Deron Williams to the Nets in exchange for Devin Harris, Derrick Favors, and several draft picks. The deal has Williams landing on the Nets with the Jazz receiving Harris, Favors, and two first round draft picks. Golden State is the third team receiving Troy Murphy by shipping Dan Gadzuric to the Nets. Williams must have burned some bridges in his feud with Jerry Sloan and Harris had overstayed his welcome in New Jersey. Both should still play key roles on their new teams. Favors is the big loser in the deal trapped behind a crowded Jazz front court. Murphy should see his contract bought out while Gadzuric will return to his role as a reserve.
Great move Nets!
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Post by T R W on Feb 23, 2011 11:20:28 GMT -5
God....why couldn't we get Williams in Atlanta.
BAH
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Post by twinn on Feb 23, 2011 11:27:46 GMT -5
Didn't see that move coming.... Now with Williams out of the picture I think it's pretty much a guarantee that CP3 will be heading to New York next season
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 23, 2011 11:32:45 GMT -5
Didn't see that move coming.... Now with Williams out of the picture I think it's pretty much a guarantee that CP3 will be heading to New York next season No its not, still a hundred cap issues, the new CBA, NY clearing cap space etc. Nothings guaranteed.
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Post by twinn on Feb 23, 2011 12:08:56 GMT -5
Didn't see that move coming.... Now with Williams out of the picture I think it's pretty much a guarantee that CP3 will be heading to New York next season No its not, still a hundred cap issues, the new CBA, NY clearing cap space etc. Nothings guaranteed. Well if ur gonna get all technical about it, then no it's not a guarantee I just have a gut feeling that they'll sign him
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Post by T R W on Feb 23, 2011 12:11:04 GMT -5
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 23, 2011 12:16:42 GMT -5
No its not, still a hundred cap issues, the new CBA, NY clearing cap space etc. Nothings guaranteed. Well if ur gonna get all technical about it, then no it's not a guarantee I just have a gut feeling that they'll sign him I dont. I bet he stays in New Orleans, especially if they keep doing well. They will be able to offer him more money and a longer deal. Anyways, thats 18 months away....trade drama is over for a while hopefully
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2011 12:18:36 GMT -5
from march stein's twitter:
RT @lockedonsports: Deron Williams told me it was not his choice. He's stunned. Declined interview until he figures out what it all means.
don't think theres gonna be a happy camper in NJ
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Post by Cult Member BriGuy on Feb 23, 2011 12:27:13 GMT -5
Noah starting tonight for the Bulls. Boner time!
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 23, 2011 12:28:28 GMT -5
from march stein's twitter: RT @lockedonsports: Deron Williams told me it was not his choice. He's stunned. Declined interview until he figures out what it all means. don't think theres gonna be a happy camper in NJ He'll be fine, this is what he gets though. Obviously the Jazz didnt wanna deal with his nonsense. Williams will be fine on a bigger stage and eventually with a huge deal.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2011 12:50:51 GMT -5
from march stein's twitter: RT @lockedonsports: Deron Williams told me it was not his choice. He's stunned. Declined interview until he figures out what it all means. don't think theres gonna be a happy camper in NJ He'll be fine, this is what he gets though. Obviously the Jazz didnt wanna deal with his nonsense. Williams will be fine on a bigger stage and eventually with a huge deal. i cant really see him signing anything long term with new jersey. stick it out for the year and test free agency next season
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Post by bad guy™ on Feb 23, 2011 12:53:50 GMT -5
Noah starting tonight for the Bulls. Boner time! Great news for the Bulls. He's fun to watch, so good to see him back on the court.
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Post by extreme on Feb 23, 2011 12:54:08 GMT -5
Wow. I didn't expect the Jazz to lose both Sloan and Deron Williams in the same year. Talk about starting from scratch.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 23, 2011 13:02:13 GMT -5
He'll be fine, this is what he gets though. Obviously the Jazz didnt wanna deal with his nonsense. Williams will be fine on a bigger stage and eventually with a huge deal. i cant really see him signing anything long term with new jersey. stick it out for the year and test free agency next season A lot can and will change in a year,
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Post by Quanthor on Feb 23, 2011 13:02:54 GMT -5
Holy sh*t! I knew he was going eventually ...but now!?! Wow, didn't see this coming at all.
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Post by Nash on Feb 23, 2011 14:55:10 GMT -5
Yeah this is extremely surprising. I think this is just Proks way of trying to stick it to the Knicks to be honest I dont really think it even makes that much sense. Hard to see where Favors will fit in really. And the Nets dont have a whole lot right now outside of D-Will. Bulls send James Johnson to the Raptors for a draft pick. The draft pick is Miami's first round pick. other names on the Bulls radar: Anthony Parker, Courtney Lee, and OJ Mayo I actually like this trade. Hopefully they can use that pick to get one of those three as they are going to need a viable 2 guard if they want to make a legit run this year. Also really excited about Noah too. Probably gunna be a little rusty, but it will give him that prep game so that he's for sure ready for the big game tomorrow.
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Post by Quanthor on Feb 23, 2011 15:30:15 GMT -5
I think it makes a ton of sense for both teams.
Deron wasn't going to stay in Utah, he was going to be dealt or he was going to walk anyways so why not avoid a Melo situation and get what you can now? The Jazz got assets in this trade, they get the Nets 1st round pick in 2011(unprotected) and the Warriors 2012 1st round (protected 1-7) along with Favors and Harris. That's a better haul than what the Nuggets got. If they don't want Favors they can probably flip for a pick or they can trade Milsap or Jefferson. The Jazz have options and future assets, it's a great move for them all things considered.
NJ isn't trying to compete this season, they are essentially doing what the Knicks did and that's acquire proven stars to build around. They now have one, they need to make sure they lock him up, but they have a star now.
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Post by Nash on Feb 23, 2011 15:54:14 GMT -5
I think it makes a ton of sense for both teams. Deron wasn't going to stay in Utah, he was going to be dealt or he was going to walk anyways so why not avoid a Melo situation and get what you can now? The Jazz got assets in this trade, they get the Nets 1st round pick in 2011(unprotected) and the Warriors 2012 1st round (protected 1-7) along with Favors and Harris. That's a better haul than what the Nuggets got. If they don't want Favors they can probably flip for a pick or they can trade Milsap or Jefferson. The Jazz have options and future assets, it's a great move for them all things considered. NJ isn't trying to compete this season, they are essentially doing what the Knicks did and that's acquire proven stars to build around. They now have one, they need to make sure they lock him up, but they have a star now. I don't know if I'd say it was 100% that Deron was going to leave after next year. The team with how it was constituted was not really all that bad and more of a complete team. Now with Favors there, you kinda have a log jam with him, Jefferson, and Millsap. And there is definetly no gurantee that he's going to stay in NJ after next year anyways. Who else will be out there for the Nets to get that will make Williams want to stay? They couldnt sell the idea to Melo, why would they be able to sell it to him? Just the timing of everything, I think it was def more based on Prok wanting to stick it to the Knicks. He couldnt get Melo, so now he pretty much gave up all they had for Williams, and theres not even a gurantee that he'll be there long term. Theres always the chance that he might be, but yeah theres going to have to be some incentive to make him stay, and right now there isn't.
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Post by Quanthor on Feb 23, 2011 16:12:21 GMT -5
I don't know if I'd say it was 100% that Deron was going to leave after next year. The team with how it was constituted was not really all that bad and more of a complete team. Now with Favors there, you kinda have a log jam with him, Jefferson, and Millsap. Deron has been dropping comments for a couple of years now that isn't happy about his situation there. Couple that with alledgedly forcing out Sloan and becoming a problem in the clubhouse....it seemed fairly obvious he was leaving. You don't deal him now, you have all next season dealing with the same garbage that Melo gave Denver. They also woudn't have gotten what they did had they have waited either. While it's a logjam, they have options, they don't have to keep all of them and likely wont. You have three bigs to pick and choose who you want..what team wishes they didn't have that problem? That is the biggest risk in this deal. If they can't get him to sign an extention this Summer than yeah...this sucks for NJ. However, after failing twice now, once with Melo and the other last Summer's FA crop...they were in a situation where they had to do something. They have to get something to take to Brooklyn or nobody is gonna watch them play in their riduclously expensive new stadium. They need a marketing tool and a place to start turning around the franchise, even if that comes with some risk, they had to do something big and they achieved this.
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Post by BV on Feb 23, 2011 16:19:53 GMT -5
Heard about this trade at school and was pretty shocked. PHENOMENAL move by New Jersey. Can't say I'm mad that the Jazz are about to crumble in front of our eyes.
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