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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 24, 2011 20:26:32 GMT -5
Leon Powe, kinda makes sense actually
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Post by LA Times on Feb 24, 2011 20:41:40 GMT -5
Leon Powe, kinda makes sense actually The Celtics should hope that Sam Dalembert gets bought out
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2011 20:53:17 GMT -5
Leon Powe, kinda makes sense actually The Celtics should hope that Sam Dalembert gets bought out did sacramento end up dealing him?
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Post by Jamal on Feb 24, 2011 21:02:33 GMT -5
I love the move for OKC. Not sure how much sense this makes for Boston though. Green makes a ton of sense, like hes perfect for this team....if they still had Perkins. Someone who can be a scorer off the bench, backup 3-4, and just be the leader of the 2nd unit. But when you deal him for Perkins? Doesnt make sense Yup. When I first read they acquired Green, I thought it was a great move myself. But I'm not as big a fan after seeing who they gave up.
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Post by user9327 on Feb 24, 2011 22:21:27 GMT -5
So let me get this straight? Boston broke up their starting unit that "never lost a playoff series together" for a guy who will back up Garnett?
Interesting. It's one of three things:
1. They're realizing they need to get younger in general.
2. Perkins is damaged goods now after injury or they realized he's overrated.
3. Garnett really is close to being finished and they want to try and transition while he still has a bit left.
It's a good move, it's smart. They were no longer a given to win the East so they are going younger and toward a better future while still maintaining their big stars.
But it's a bad move because you essentially are ending the era that won you a championship. This group is probably less capable; but still capable.
I thought in a year or so Boston was in for a rude awakening but this definitely helps alleviate that.
This will absolutely help them against teams like Chicago and Miami. But I think it weakens them against LA or SA.
But they kinda had to do something. Everybody else is young and I felt Chicago had a real good chance to eliminate them this year.
If it busts and they are worse for it, I still think it's an acceptable move.
Also, in a year and a half aren't all of the big 3 off the books? I know Perkins was overpaid, and Rondo's contract is huge. But maybe this could help them get into the FA market. I'd rather come play with Green and Rondo than Perkins and Rondo?
Yea, I like the move. I gotta look more into it and the salaries. But it's not a bad idea at all.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 24, 2011 22:35:52 GMT -5
Jeff Green is going to back up Pierce, not Garnett, and Garnett is not finished, he hasnt looked close to finished this year. So thats not the reason.
The Celtics have one of the best records in the NBA this year....without Perkins. They arent closing an era dealing someone who only played 12 games this year and wont be here next year.
They couldnt resign Perkins, they have other moves coming I assume.
Rondos deal isnt huge, hes making 4/46 for an elite point guard who just turned 25, thats going to be a bargain when Paul and Williams sign their deals.
After 2012 the Celtics will lose 50 million from their cap and people are already saying they want Dwight Howard.
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Post by Gore on Feb 24, 2011 22:37:55 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind seeing Miami/Chicago in the playoffs after tonight.
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Post by twinn on Feb 24, 2011 22:42:00 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind seeing Miami/Chicago in the playoffs after tonight. Same here... Helluva game 2nite; huge shot by Deng at the end... DA BULLS!!!
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Post by BV on Feb 24, 2011 22:44:51 GMT -5
Bosh seriously blows. He is going to be the reason down the stretch why they aren't going to go far in the playoffs.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 24, 2011 22:45:45 GMT -5
Bosh seriously blows. He is going to be the reason down the stretch why they aren't going to go far in the playoffs. The minute he stepped foot in Miami, he got allergic to the paint and just started shooting jumpers. Hes not a super duper star, but he was pretty friggin good, now hes just just a mess some tgames.
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Post by user9327 on Feb 24, 2011 23:20:34 GMT -5
Jeff Green is going to back up Pierce, not Garnett, and Garnett is not finished, he hasnt looked close to finished this year. So thats not the reason. The Celtics have one of the best records in the NBA this year....without Perkins. They arent closing an era dealing someone who only played 12 games this year and wont be here next year. They couldnt resign Perkins, they have other moves coming I assume. Rondos deal isnt huge, hes making 4/46 for an elite point guard who just turned 25, thats going to be a bargain when Paul and Williams sign their deals. After 2012 the Celtics will lose 50 million from their cap and people are already saying they want Dwight Howard. Garnett is by no means currently done but he's looked regressed ever since the surgery. He played well in the Finals but then Pierce would go flat. Green is there to help alleviate the veterans. If you think this wasn't a move to help the transition of the aging veterans then I disagree. There is no doubt Garnett's prime is over, ditto on Pierce. Both of those guys couldn't go back to being the man solo at the same level as before. But really, Boston traded some bigs and got a guy who plays PF for OKC back. You really think he's here to back up Pierce? I think he fits Garnett's role better. Mid range game, depended on for defense and tall and lengthy. Green is gonna help guard guys like Carmelo, LeBron and Kobe. As for Rondo being an elite. I dunno how you can say that when he's an offensive liability and that was a big part of what lost you the Finals. Kobe didn't even guard him within 10 feet, it was ridiculous. Ditto on him being nearly cut from Team USA over Rose, Westbrook and Billups. Just saying, you put Rondo in NO or Chicago right now and they are worse off. Ditto on Utah when Williams was there. Rondo is so overrated it's not even funny.
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Post by BV on Feb 24, 2011 23:26:45 GMT -5
I think you're overrating Green a bit. He isn't that good of a defender and can't rebound well for his size. Doesn't really have that consistent of a jumper either.
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Post by becausethenight on Feb 24, 2011 23:38:13 GMT -5
You really think he's here to back up Pierce? I think he fits Garnett's role better. Mid range game, depended on for defense and tall and lengthy. Green is gonna help guard guys like Carmelo, LeBron and Kobe.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Feb 24, 2011 23:41:15 GMT -5
Jeff Green is going to back up Pierce, not Garnett, and Garnett is not finished, he hasnt looked close to finished this year. So thats not the reason. The Celtics have one of the best records in the NBA this year....without Perkins. They arent closing an era dealing someone who only played 12 games this year and wont be here next year. They couldnt resign Perkins, they have other moves coming I assume. Rondos deal isnt huge, hes making 4/46 for an elite point guard who just turned 25, thats going to be a bargain when Paul and Williams sign their deals. After 2012 the Celtics will lose 50 million from their cap and people are already saying they want Dwight Howard. Garnett is by no means currently done but he's looked regressed ever since the surgery. He played well in the Finals but then Pierce would go flat. Green is there to help alleviate the veterans. If you think this wasn't a move to help the transition of the aging veterans then I disagree. There is no doubt Garnett's prime is over, ditto on Pierce. Both of those guys couldn't go back to being the man solo at the same level as before. But really, Boston traded some bigs and got a guy who plays PF for OKC back. You really think he's here to back up Pierce? I think he fits Garnett's role better. Mid range game, depended on for defense and tall and lengthy. Green is gonna help guard guys like Carmelo, LeBron and Kobe. As for Rondo being an elite. I dunno how you can say that when he's an offensive liability and that was a big part of what lost you the Finals. Kobe didn't even guard him within 10 feet, it was ridiculous. Ditto on him being nearly cut from Team USA over Rose, Westbrook and Billups. Just saying, you put Rondo in NO or Chicago right now and they are worse off. Ditto on Utah when Williams was there. Rondo is so overrated it's not even funny. I am not gonna respond anymore, every time you bring up Rondo you look for a fight saying how much he sucks, which isnt the case. So theres no point in arguing here. The Celtics will be fine with Green, this move was made for this year and next, I still think we are the best team in the East. The end
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Post by Cult Member BriGuy on Feb 25, 2011 0:36:56 GMT -5
kanye west was at the game tonight, as well as the new mayor RAHM.
Awesome game. Some iffy calls. Bosh sucks. Bulls were not hitting 3 pointer. Rough 1st quarter. There was that period where the Heat had 3 dunks in a row. Bulls showed their depth and that was a great play at the end, Rose driving, drawing the extra guy, then passing to the wide open Deng! Bulls own the tie-breaker over the Heat, should they be tied at the end of the season.
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Post by extreme on Feb 25, 2011 0:59:09 GMT -5
I agree with Rondo being a tad bit overrated. He's still a great point guard though-- it's just hard to say how he would perform without the supporting cast around him . If he manages to improve his jump shot, free throw shooting,and slows the hell down on the transitions to prevent turning the ball over he would definitely be deserving of being called a top point guard.
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Post by user9327 on Feb 25, 2011 1:00:35 GMT -5
Garnett is by no means currently done but he's looked regressed ever since the surgery. He played well in the Finals but then Pierce would go flat. Green is there to help alleviate the veterans. If you think this wasn't a move to help the transition of the aging veterans then I disagree. There is no doubt Garnett's prime is over, ditto on Pierce. Both of those guys couldn't go back to being the man solo at the same level as before. But really, Boston traded some bigs and got a guy who plays PF for OKC back. You really think he's here to back up Pierce? I think he fits Garnett's role better. Mid range game, depended on for defense and tall and lengthy. Green is gonna help guard guys like Carmelo, LeBron and Kobe. As for Rondo being an elite. I dunno how you can say that when he's an offensive liability and that was a big part of what lost you the Finals. Kobe didn't even guard him within 10 feet, it was ridiculous. Ditto on him being nearly cut from Team USA over Rose, Westbrook and Billups. Just saying, you put Rondo in NO or Chicago right now and they are worse off. Ditto on Utah when Williams was there. Rondo is so overrated it's not even funny. I am not gonna respond anymore, every time you bring up Rondo you look for a fight saying how much he sucks, which isnt the case. So theres no point in arguing here. The Celtics will be fine with Green, this move was made for this year and next, I still think we are the best team in the East. The end I don't say Rondo sucks. I point out his flaws when you call him elite. If he's elite; he the most flawed elite I've ever seen. Sorry you think that means I'm trying to start a fight, though.
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Post by Gore on Feb 25, 2011 1:02:40 GMT -5
How about those Nuggets!
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Post by Tim of thee on Feb 25, 2011 1:16:21 GMT -5
Nuggets played with toughness tonight.. I hope they continue this success.. they have to play with a chip on their shoulder the rest of the year.. everyone is calling them a lottery team and as far as Kendrick Perkins being overrated.. I saw him against the Lakers many times and he just matches up the best against them.. he gave the celtics the toughness inside that they will miss in the playoffs.. that being said, the Celtics are still good, despite losing to some questionable teams this season.. they aren't built for the regular season, but when the playoffs roll around they will bring it and Bosh sucks.. the guy can't even flop right
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Post by Gore on Feb 25, 2011 1:19:03 GMT -5
Denver teams never get any respect from the mainstream media. Nothing new.
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