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Post by †hê Jå§ðñ Wïllïåm§ on Nov 23, 2010 23:19:25 GMT -5
I haven't scanned through the pages, but most of the people going "undeserved", are the same people that go on about how the Main Event scene never changes.
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Post by Sleeping Like An Angel on Nov 23, 2010 23:20:39 GMT -5
To all the Miz jizzers...You're ignorant..Go play in traffic I ing love that picture. Perfect response to bitching. (Even though I automatically love the guy it's used against in this situation...Dreamer is the ****)
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Post by HugoOne on Nov 23, 2010 23:24:20 GMT -5
To all the Miz jizzers...You're ignorant..Go play in traffic This is absolutely perfect and will never get old.
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Post by miserere on Nov 24, 2010 0:00:32 GMT -5
You act as if Miz didn't wrestle to get where he is. He's endured the same harsh schedule, long hours, and such that Taker did back in the day. Like Miz clicked his heels three times, said "WWE" and landed in a title match. He doesn't deserve the title. ing Funaki worked the same schedules, but did he get a World or WWE Title? People think Miz got the title because he deserved it. HE DIDN'T. He got it to get him over. Same thing when Orton won his first title. He didn't deserve it, he just got it to put him over. People say how Miz' in-ring and mic work has improved, SO WHAT? People can get better, but not better enough that they should get a title. I get why he has the title, because he needs to be put over as a top-tier guy for the future. But to sit here and read comments like he paid his dues and is so deserving is bullpoop. The IWC is so funny. People think they are so smart but deep down don't really know why things are happening. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. Seriously, though, who are you to say who does and does not "deserve" something? You're nobody. You're a kid on a message board who has no understanding of the business beyond what you see on your television screen. You don't know what goes on backstage, how hard these guys work, or what they put their bodies through to even have a chance to compete. Why was Funaki never champion? Because he had no mic skills. Because he couldn't cut promos. Because he was a tag team wrestler who never broke from that mold. Because he wasn't ever half as over as The Miz. Shall I continue, or is that sufficient reasoning for you, professor? I almost vomited after I read that. First, tell me who you are that you know why things are happening. Do you work for WWE? Or do you sit behind your computer screen and cry like a little 8-year-old bratty girl when things don't go your way? Regardless, you're an idiot and I hate you. You don't have to like or appreciate the fact that Miz is champion, but to completely toss the guy under the bus after it's been proven that he is among the top guys in terms of work ethic and out-of-ring promotion for the company is ignorant. The Miz loves WWE and goes to the extremes to represent it. He does award shows and autograph signings and guest appearances while every other superstar save for maybe John Cena is sitting at home or working out on their own. Once again, I hate you. And if there were any word in the English language stronger, I would use that.
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Post by LtD73 on Nov 24, 2010 4:54:57 GMT -5
did he just say Miz needed the WWE title to get over? Do you not watch Raw? The Miz is over, and has been over for a long time
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Post by tom on Nov 24, 2010 4:59:21 GMT -5
The reality TV argument is so ing redundant. I should care less about what he's done before entering the business, and neither should you. Most people were happy with Booker T - a criminal - to become WWE Champion, but Miz is somehow unworthy of the honor because he had a different career before wrestling? ing stupid. He's worked hard to become one of the faces of the WWE, and well done to him. Nowhere near my favorite wrestler, but he has my respect and some of the arguments against him on here are making my head hurt.
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Post by wabarrett on Nov 24, 2010 6:47:20 GMT -5
If Cena is gone for the forseeable future and Miz is the WWE champion for the forseeable future, I expect ratings to plummet quite frankly.
He's down there with Sheamus and Great Khali in my opinion, sue me.
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Post by wyleecyotee on Nov 24, 2010 8:19:08 GMT -5
They should do like they did when Angle first won it, loose it at No Way Out Elimination Chamber then have an upper midcard match at Mania.
Nice to see a new Champion and Miz has been the most improved wrestler I can ever remember.
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Post by alexgg on Nov 24, 2010 8:35:47 GMT -5
I can see him losing at Elimination Chamber like Sheamus of last year and entering a Non-title match with John Morrison at WM27
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Post by wabarrett on Nov 24, 2010 9:20:54 GMT -5
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I hate you.Seriously, though, who are you to say who does and does not "deserve" something? You're nobody. You're a kid on a message board who has no understanding of the business beyond what you see on your television screen. You don't know what goes on backstage, how hard these guys work, or what they put their bodies through to even have a chance to compete. Why was Funaki never champion? Because he had no mic skills. Because he couldn't cut promos. Because he was a tag team wrestler who never broke from that mold. Because he wasn't ever half as over as The Miz. Shall I continue, or is that sufficient reasoning for you, professor? I almost vomited after I read that. First, tell me who you are that you know why things are happening. Do you work for WWE? Or do you sit behind your computer screen and cry like a little 8-year-old bratty girl when things don't go your way? Regardless, you're an idiot and I hate you. You don't have to like or appreciate the fact that Miz is champion, but to completely toss the guy under the bus after it's been proven that he is among the top guys in terms of work ethic and out-of-ring promotion for the company is ignorant. The Miz loves WWE and goes to the extremes to represent it. He does award shows and autograph signings and guest appearances while every other superstar save for maybe John Cena is sitting at home or working out on their own. Once again, I hate you. And if there were any word in the English language stronger, I would use that. You make good points but this makes you sound like a f****** idiot.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Nov 24, 2010 11:16:39 GMT -5
What's hilarious is that no one hated on him being a reality TV "star" until he won the big belt. Smells like someone's having Scapegoat for dinner. Like I said, if you don't like him, then it's natural to not want to see him as Champ. But vowing to never watch Raw/WWE again because "A realatee TEE VEE star'z da champ!!!!11" is like not watching the UFC anymore because your least favorite fighter KO'd the current champ. Wrong. Miz just isn't credible. I would find him more believable if he wasn't just made to look like a goof most of the time. I SERIOUSLY will NEVER take his stupid catchphrase seriously "I'm Awesome"? Really? That's it? That's what makes him a bit of a goof and an unrealistic champion, but that's not necessarily his fault. And, please. Don't compare UFC to pro-wrestling. They both are different. And I would NEVER stop watching UFC or MMA because "omgz mi fav fyter got knokd out!!1", because once again, MMA is NOT pro-wrestling. And, just to clarify, I have ALWAYS labeled Miz as a reality TV reject. Always. Because "Do you smell what I'm cooking" is muuuuch more credible as a catchphrase. Or "Because Stone Cold Said So!" wassoooo inovative. News flash, ALL catchphrases are corny. But applied to the individual, they work. The Miz is a self indulging prick who toots his own horn all the time. The catchphrase works, and is easily satired with "AWWWFULL", so the whole crowd can get into it. Say what you want, but Miz at this point is JUST as credible as Edge was back when he won the first MITB. Heck, compare the two timeframes and their practically the same type of heel. You also continue to call him a reality show reject, when in fact it's how he began to make a name for himself. I don't see where the "reject" title applies to be honest. But there's nothing wrong with not liking him. That's fine. But as said earlier, not liking him because of the reality tv thing is not liking Booker T because he was a criminal before he wrestled.
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Post by spamdfms101 on Nov 24, 2010 11:23:27 GMT -5
I've actually started to like the idea of Miz as the champion. IDK why, but its a nice change of pace from Orton. And I have to say, I would MUCH rather have Miz as the champion than Barrett.
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Post by LtD73 on Nov 24, 2010 11:44:01 GMT -5
I kinda hate when Raw has really good shocking endings, and the wait for next weeks raw seems to take so much longer.
Last time i felt like this was when Nexus destroyed ringside
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Nov 24, 2010 12:02:17 GMT -5
Oh man this is in every sense of the word awesome. I, even though i was in a very very small majority for some reason liked miz when he was on SD all those years ago, there was something about him but the improvement he has made then is absolutely insane and he so righfully deserve this accolade not just from a storyline point of view but also personally. Im so glad miz cashed in and successfully, he is without a doubt one of my top 5 wwe superstars for a while. Miz is awesome as i hope the reign will be!
Oh and for the whole reality show crap, people need to lay off. It isnt even a thought when i think of miz, i never saw the stuff but i dont give a damn, this is where miz belongs and shines anyway. Plus the whole reality star line is complete bull and is a lame excuse for not agreeing with the reign.
Heres hoping it lasts long for Miz' benefit, the fresh material it brings to raw and to stick it to the nay sayers.
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Post by sean™ on Nov 24, 2010 12:07:06 GMT -5
Thank god I DVR Raw, so I can just fast forward through his segments as usual. I'm counting down the days until his title run is over.
No need to debate if he deserves it or not, as it doesn't matter to me. I just don't like him, don't want to see him as champion, and certainly don't want to see more of him on WWE TV.
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Post by Gazza on Nov 24, 2010 12:16:11 GMT -5
Thank god I DVR Raw, so I can just fast forward through his segments as usual. I'm counting down the days until his title run is over. No need to debate if he deserves it or not, as it doesn't matter to me. I just don't like him, don't want to see him as champion, and certainly don't want to see more of him on WWE TV. Had to be done
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Post by Jimex on Nov 24, 2010 12:21:59 GMT -5
when miz won the wwe title i felt like i had won the wwe title. now that the age of orton is over we can all enjoy the era of awesome
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Post by sean™ on Nov 24, 2010 12:26:51 GMT -5
No, actually it didn't.
Enjoy all of this while you can. History has shown that first time world champions, when cashing in their MITB, have short and transitional title reigns.
Edge, RVD, CM Punk, Swagger
Kane has already been a World Champion once (despite it being the WWE Title) and Punk's second reign after chasing in, actually only lasted a few months, which included him losing it once.
Enjoy the "awesomeness" while you guys can, because he'll be handing that title over to someone else very soon, and maybe by the time he wins it again, he'll actually deserve it in my eyes.
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Post by HugoOne on Nov 24, 2010 12:52:23 GMT -5
Because "Do you smell what I'm cooking" is muuuuch more credible as a catchphrase. Or "Because Stone Cold Said So!" wassoooo inovative. News flash, ALL catchphrases are corny. But applied to the individual, they work. The Miz is a self indulging prick who toots his own horn all the time. The catchphrase works, and is easily satired with "AWWWFULL", so the whole crowd can get into it. Say what you want, but Miz at this point is JUST as credible as Edge was back when he won the first MITB. Heck, compare the two timeframes and their practically the same type of heel. I have to agree on the catchphrase. Almost all catch phrases are ridiculous to a point. Macho Man used to yell out, "Oooh yeah, dig it!" The most important part is that the crowd gets behind it. I have yet to hear a crowd not yell "Awesome" with the Miz as he says it. It's insanely over. Signs are made to parody it, signs are made to support it, t-shirts are made to support it...it works. Jimmy said it best when he compared the Rock's reign to the Miz' reign. Now, I'm not saying the Miz is as good as the Rock turned out to be, but both started off the year at the Rumble by defending their mid-card title, both were still holding that Championship by Summerslam, and both won the WWE Championship through nefarious means around or at Survivor Series. And the Miz is loaded with charisma, much like the Rock. I honestly don't see anything stopping the Miz from continuing to follow the path of the Rock in the ring, and getting better and better each day.
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Post by wabarrett on Nov 24, 2010 13:16:07 GMT -5
Because "Do you smell what I'm cooking" is muuuuch more credible as a catchphrase. Or "Because Stone Cold Said So!" wassoooo inovative. News flash, ALL catchphrases are corny. But applied to the individual, they work. The Miz is a self indulging prick who toots his own horn all the time. The catchphrase works, and is easily satired with "AWWWFULL", so the whole crowd can get into it. Say what you want, but Miz at this point is JUST as credible as Edge was back when he won the first MITB. Heck, compare the two timeframes and their practically the same type of heel. I have to agree on the catchphrase. Almost all catch phrases are ridiculous to a point. Macho Man used to yell out, "Oooh yeah, dig it!" The most important part is that the crowd gets behind it. I have yet to hear a crowd not yell "Awesome" with the Miz as he says it. It's insanely over. Signs are made to parody it, signs are made to support it, t-shirts are made to support it...it works. Jimmy said it best when he compared the Rock's reign to the Miz' reign. Now, I'm not saying the Miz is as good as the Rock turned out to be, but both started off the year at the Rumble by defending their mid-card title, both were still holding that Championship by Summerslam, and both won the WWE Championship through nefarious means around or at Survivor Series. And the Miz is loaded with charisma, much like the Rock. I honestly don't see anything stopping the Miz from continuing to follow the path of the Rock in the ring, and getting better and better each day. Well, if that's the case, he's failing at being a heel then. Although I'm pretty sure most of the time the majority of the crowd is yell 'I'm AWWWFULL.' In which case, he's a good heel. I also think comparing Miz to The Rock is a joke. I'm sorry, but to me The Miz shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as The Rock, Stone Cold etc etc.
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