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Post by Hulkamaniac on Dec 7, 2010 20:25:50 GMT -5
We aren't talking about being a landlord and renting out a house. Of course if you are renting the house you have to keep it up to code. If you own the land, the house AND you live there, you can do whatever you want. So housing and zoning laws don't apply to home owners then?
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Post by slappy on Dec 7, 2010 20:44:02 GMT -5
Some neighborhoods have associations that make other home owners on the block adhere to certain rules.
I don't think that is right.
If you own the land, you can do whatever with it. If you own a home and don't want to have electricity, so what?
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Dec 7, 2010 21:01:23 GMT -5
Some neighborhoods have associations that make other home owners on the block adhere to certain rules. I don't think that is right. If you own the land, you can do whatever with it. If you own a home and don't want to have electricity, so what? If you move into those neighborhoods you sign the HSA agreements before you move in so it's all laid out for you before you buy the house.
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Post by slappy on Dec 7, 2010 21:02:30 GMT -5
Some neighborhoods have associations that make other home owners on the block adhere to certain rules. I don't think that is right. If you own the land, you can do whatever with it. If you own a home and don't want to have electricity, so what? If you move into those neighborhoods you sign the HSA agreements before you move in so it's all laid out for you before you buy the house. Why should the guy down the street decide if I can put gnomes on my front yard?
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Dec 7, 2010 21:09:10 GMT -5
If you move into those neighborhoods you sign the HSA agreements before you move in so it's all laid out for you before you buy the house. Why should the guy down the street decide if I can put gnomes on my front yard? Because you signed up for it when you moved in?
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Post by slappy on Dec 7, 2010 21:12:01 GMT -5
Why should the guy down the street decide if I can put gnomes on my front yard? Because you signed up for it when you moved in? I don't see what gives them the right to even have a set of rules like that. Why should they be allowed to tell me what to do?
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Dec 7, 2010 21:17:46 GMT -5
Because you signed up for it when you moved in? I don't see what gives them the right to even have a set of rules like that. Why should they be allowed to tell me what to do? Again, because you signed up for it.
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Post by slappy on Dec 7, 2010 21:19:28 GMT -5
I don't see what gives them the right to even have a set of rules like that. Why should they be allowed to tell me what to do? Again, because you signed up for it. Oh my gosh that isn't what I'm asking about. I'm saying what gives them the right to even make you sign something like that? Why should they be able to tell you what to do with your land?
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Post by Kliquid on Dec 7, 2010 21:23:08 GMT -5
Then amend the laws so they don't apply to him. I'd love to, but once peoples rights are taken by the government, they are VERY rarely given back.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Dec 7, 2010 21:26:42 GMT -5
Again, because you signed up for it. Oh my gosh that isn't what I'm asking about. I'm saying what gives them the right to even make you sign something like that? Why should they be able to tell you what to do with your land? Easy. The majority of the people in the neighborhood get together and decide that this is how they want things run. It's the democratic process.
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Post by slappy on Dec 7, 2010 21:29:56 GMT -5
So if the majority of home owners on the block decided they didn't want Hispanic people on their block, that'd be ok?
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Dec 7, 2010 21:35:41 GMT -5
So if the majority of home owners on the block decided they didn't want Hispanic people on their block, that'd be ok? No, because it's against federal housing laws to discriminate based on race.
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Post by Kliquid on Dec 7, 2010 21:41:02 GMT -5
No, because it's against federal housing laws to discriminate based on race. The Constitution was also created to protect the people from the government, meaning that unless there is effect on others, there should be no laws created to dictate what they do.
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Post by slappy on Dec 7, 2010 21:42:08 GMT -5
So if the majority of home owners on the block decided they didn't want Hispanic people on their block, that'd be ok? No, because it's against federal housing laws to discriminate based on race. Doesn't stop places from saying those different than them are not welcome. But they are still infringing on the person's rights to say what they can or cannot do with their land/house.
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