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Post by Hulkamaniac on Dec 8, 2010 11:24:16 GMT -5
Not saying he's not guilty. Just saying he doesn't qualify as being as evil as guys like Hitler or Stalin that's all. I wasn't ranking their evilness, I was just listing evil people. I did not see Vince McMahon or Jayson Werth on the list.
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Post by slappy on Dec 8, 2010 11:26:09 GMT -5
The day Vince McMahon is Person of the Year is the day I buy a copy of Time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2010 14:16:17 GMT -5
I'm loling that you listed Pope John Paul II in the same list with Hitler and Stalin. How many people got HIV/AIDS from his reckless decrees that condoms are bad/evil? Do you have numbers/facts?
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Post by K5 on Dec 8, 2010 15:07:14 GMT -5
How many people got HIV/AIDS from his reckless decrees that condoms are bad/evil? Do you have numbers/facts? ...do you need them? jesus christ.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Dec 8, 2010 21:48:27 GMT -5
Calling the pope evil is ludicrous. He didn't set out to kill anyone. He didn't order people to kill. He is basically a fanatical catholic doing his job following what he was taught, setting an example for the feeble-minded. Does it make him misguided? Yes. But it certainly doesn't make him evil. He certainly doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Hitler and Stalin. You could argue that Bin Laden is the same, but I don't know of any pope who (allegedly) ordered the destruction and extermination of countless people, and by design no less. Regardless of what you think of his methods, you will never convince me that he is evil. As a disclaimer, I am not a catholic, not religious at all, and not a pope booster. Calling him evil, though, is just absurd.
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Post by Thick Justice on Dec 8, 2010 22:06:45 GMT -5
In the list of evil people you might as well list all of the bilderberghs. Pope included.
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Post by slappy on Dec 8, 2010 22:58:30 GMT -5
Calling the pope evil is ludicrous. He didn't set out to kill anyone. He didn't order people to kill. He is basically a fanatical catholic doing his job following what he was taught, setting an example for the feeble-minded. Does it make him misguided? Yes. But it certainly doesn't make him evil. He certainly doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Hitler and Stalin. You could argue that Bin Laden is the same, but I don't know of any pope who (allegedly) ordered the destruction and extermination of countless people, and by design no less. Regardless of what you think of his methods, you will never convince me that he is evil. As a disclaimer, I am not a catholic, not religious at all, and not a pope booster. Calling him evil, though, is just absurd. Yeah, I'm sure there was never a pope that championed the crusades. To the guy who wants numbers. There are currently 30+ million people in the world with HIV/AIDS. Last year alone, nearly 2 million people died of the disease.
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Post by pedigree619 on Dec 8, 2010 23:04:18 GMT -5
Calling the pope evil is ludicrous. He didn't set out to kill anyone. He didn't order people to kill. He is basically a fanatical catholic doing his job following what he was taught, setting an example for the feeble-minded. Does it make him misguided? Yes. But it certainly doesn't make him evil. He certainly doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Hitler and Stalin. You could argue that Bin Laden is the same, but I don't know of any pope who (allegedly) ordered the destruction and extermination of countless people, and by design no less. Regardless of what you think of his methods, you will never convince me that he is evil. As a disclaimer, I am not a catholic, not religious at all, and not a pope booster. Calling him evil, though, is just absurd. Yeah, I'm sure there was never a pope that championed the crusades. To the guy who wants numbers. There are currently 30+ million people in the world with HIV/AIDS. Last year alone, nearly 2 million people died of the disease. The number for new infections was cut in half in NYC when syringes were made available over the counter. Lack of condoms are just half the problem.
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Post by Johnny on Dec 8, 2010 23:05:55 GMT -5
I'm loling that you listed Pope John Paul II in the same list with Hitler and Stalin. How many people got HIV/AIDS from his reckless decrees that condoms are bad/evil? did he make them have sex? declaring you think condoms are evil isn't nearly as bad as putting people in ovens or gas chambers by the hundred. pretty ridiculous.
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Post by slappy on Dec 8, 2010 23:11:02 GMT -5
How many people got HIV/AIDS from his reckless decrees that condoms are bad/evil? did he make them have sex? declaring you think condoms are evil isn't nearly as bad as putting people in ovens or gas chambers by the hundred. pretty ridiculous. I never ranked their evilness, I just said they were evil people. In a way, he did. Saying to procreate and when doing it, don't wear a condom. People take craphe says seriously.
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Post by slappy on Dec 8, 2010 23:11:26 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm sure there was never a pope that championed the crusades. To the guy who wants numbers. There are currently 30+ million people in the world with HIV/AIDS. Last year alone, nearly 2 million people died of the disease. The number for new infections was cut in half in NYC when syringes were made available over the counter. Lack of condoms are just half the problem. Which is why I am for a needle exchange program.
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Post by njpunk on Dec 8, 2010 23:40:54 GMT -5
I still say Foley deserved it that one year.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Dec 8, 2010 23:50:52 GMT -5
I'm loling that you listed Pope John Paul II in the same list with Hitler and Stalin. How many people got HIV/AIDS from his reckless decrees that condoms are bad/evil? His predecessor, Pius XII, was much worse.
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Post by slappy on Dec 8, 2010 23:52:03 GMT -5
How many people got HIV/AIDS from his reckless decrees that condoms are bad/evil? His predecessor, Pius XII, was much worse. Well, he didn't win Person of the Year.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Dec 8, 2010 23:57:00 GMT -5
His predecessor, Pius XII, was much worse. Well, he didn't win Person of the Year. And yet Hitler, whose actions were conveniently ignored by Pius XII, did. Go figure.
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Post by slappy on Dec 8, 2010 23:58:25 GMT -5
Well, he didn't win Person of the Year. And yet Hitler, whose actions were conveniently ignored by Pius XII, did. Go figure. Well I think they just pick whoever is most talked about.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Dec 9, 2010 0:00:54 GMT -5
And yet Hitler, whose actions were conveniently ignored by Pius XII, did. Go figure. Well I think they just pick whoever is most talked about. Which is why I don't read Time. I can think of at least a dozen other people about whom I've talked over the last 12 months more than the Wikileaks guy. Hell, until 3 days ago, I didn't even know his name. Between Time and Newsweek, I can never remember which one is supposed to be liberal and which is conservative.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2010 1:25:20 GMT -5
Calling the pope evil is ludicrous. He didn't set out to kill anyone. He didn't order people to kill. He is basically a fanatical catholic doing his job following what he was taught, setting an example for the feeble-minded. Does it make him misguided? Yes. But it certainly doesn't make him evil. He certainly doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Hitler and Stalin. You could argue that Bin Laden is the same, but I don't know of any pope who (allegedly) ordered the destruction and extermination of countless people, and by design no less. Regardless of what you think of his methods, you will never convince me that he is evil. As a disclaimer, I am not a catholic, not religious at all, and not a pope booster. Calling him evil, though, is just absurd. Yeah, I'm sure there was never a pope that championed the crusades. To the guy who wants numbers. There are currently 30+ million people in the world with HIV/AIDS. Last year alone, nearly 2 million people died of the disease. How many of those are Catholic? Infected with the virus and those who died? Those are the numbers I want. We all know Africa is the continent with the most cases of HIV/AIDS. How many of those people are followers of the pope? I'm willing to bet not enough to matter.
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Post by slappy on Dec 9, 2010 1:29:29 GMT -5
I doubt they ask what religion you are after your diagnosis.
But the Pope still put the message out there and he should be held accountable for it. Just like Reagan for ignoring the disease.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2010 1:38:49 GMT -5
I doubt they ask what religion you are after your diagnosis. But the Pope still put the message out there and he should be held accountable for it. Just like Reagan for ignoring the disease. Of course they don't ask for their religious beliefs but how about people taking responsibility for themselves. Its easy to point the finger. The Pope wasn't forcing people to have sex. I'm sure there are more pregnancies than there are cases of AIDS/HIV from those having unprotected sex.
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