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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2010 8:22:18 GMT -5
I was just going through some old compilations lists etc and I came across the list of WWF tag Champs from WM1 through 11..... US Express of Windham and Rotundo Foreign Legion of Iron Sheik and Nikolai Volkoff British Bulldogs Hart Foundation X2 Strike Force Demolition X3 Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard:The Brainbusters Collossal Connection of Andre and Haku Nasty Boys Legion Of Doom/Road Warriors Money Inc Natural Disasters Steiner Brothers that is some list of talent right there........makes me sad to see that Vince doesnt give one chocolate  about his tag division anymore........ |
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Post by twinn on Dec 27, 2010 11:30:27 GMT -5
And those were JUST the great teams that held the belts; there were a million more that never won the titles: The Rockers, The Twin Towers, Power and Glory, The Orient Express, The Powers of Pain, The Bushwhackers, The Fabulous Rougeaus, etc. etc. etc. etc. The Tag Team division is probably the #1 reason why the late 80's - early 90's always has been and always will be my favorite era of professional wrestling... I am so goddamn happy that I was born in 1987, so I could have this be a part of my childhood...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2010 12:57:13 GMT -5
yeah great point!!this is just the Champs.
m first WM was 5 when I was 9 and Teams were such an indispensable part of WWF then.now.......not so much.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2010 0:03:29 GMT -5
This is why you're the Classic Mod Joker, great topics like this!
Sure enough, I was born in '82, and when I first saw the WWF at the age of 5, one of the first things I remember seeing was Strike Force. From there, a multitude of tag teams impressed me, most notably The Rockers and The Hart Foundation.
Such great talent, great tag teams, and great wrestlers that would influence the generation after them in tag wrestling.
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Post by gordon on Dec 28, 2010 0:05:39 GMT -5
Yeah, it's a shame teams mean jack diddly squat in WWE today.
It wouldn't even be hard to create some new teams e.g. Darren Young isn't doing anything, team him up with Percy Watson.
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Post by Eustache on Dec 28, 2010 9:50:43 GMT -5
If you look at the teams on that list, you will notice that most of these teams were together for many years. Tully & Arn, The Harts, LOD, Bulldogs etc...
They had the chance to become great by being together for so long.
Now days, two guys often get thrown together as a make shift team that sometimes wins the tag title within a month (Cody & Drew being a recent example.) only to be disbanded by the next ppv.
It only goes to show that sadly the golden age of tag team wrestling was in the late 80s to early 90s.
Today the tag team championship is nothing more than a prop. (I know, all titles are props but still the tag belts have been miss-used for so long...)
There are too many fatal 4 ways tag matches and Tag Team Turmoils being used as a way of getting more talent on a ppv without the proper buildup.
I would much prefer that WWE would put together young teams that would stay together a few years that would get better by working against each other.
I would prefer the Hart Dynasty vs Michael McGillicutty & Husky Harris 2 out of three falls over some senseless multi-team matches featuring MVP, Evan Bourne & Mark Henry with their respective partners of the month.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2010 10:52:34 GMT -5
great point man-they had time to learn their craft.
I couldnt believe it when watching Raw the other week and see the Hart Dynasty breaking up....I mean holy crap.....does anyone in creative think these 2 personality bypass jobs will get over on their own?
imagine a tag tournament(16 teams) with the talent above......whoa man.
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Post by twinn on Dec 28, 2010 11:07:08 GMT -5
imagine a tag tournament(16 teams) with the talent above......whoa man. I used to have tag tournaments like that with my hasbros all of the time!!! Mega Powers, Twin Towers, Demolition, Hart Foundation (tho they didn't match  ), Rockers, etc.... Such great memories... I even used to do it with the Jakks Classics, tho it's been like 2 or 3 years since I've pulled them out of storage and it wasn't as much fun now that I'm in my 20's.... |
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Post by k5 on Dec 28, 2010 12:51:49 GMT -5
i used to almost prefer the tag wrestling division at that time to solo, i love the hart foundation and british bulldogs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2010 14:10:10 GMT -5
imagine a tag tournament(16 teams) with the talent above......whoa man. I used to have tag tournaments like that with my hasbros all of the time!!! Mega Powers, Twin Towers, Demolition, Hart Foundation (tho they didn't match ), Rockers, etc.... Such great memories... I even used to do it with the Jakks Classics, tho it's been like 2 or 3 years since I've pulled them out of storage and it wasn't as much fun now that I'm in my 20's.... ditto man.Hasbro gave us a lot of teams........ Demolition Twin Towers Mega Powers(first Hasbro Savage was perfect) LOD Bushwhackers Nasty Boys New Foundation Headshrinkers Natural Disasters Money Inc Steiners Smoking Gunns and Im bound to be forgetting someone.yeah I used to hav mega tourneys all the time too.......great times. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2010 14:14:11 GMT -5
sorry to double post......but looking back from 88-92 lots of my fave matches and revisted ones are the tag variety.
love watching Hacksaw and Demolition cheat Andre and the Twin Towers at Summerslam 89.......or LOD smashing the Nastys at WM7 or Demolition vs POP at WM5.......
and its hard to top Hart Foundation vs Demolition at Summerslam 90 with L.O.D.s PERFECTLY executed intervention.....good times.
Demolitions turn seemed unatural though.they were over like effin rover at WM6.
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Post by k5 on Dec 28, 2010 14:45:17 GMT -5
that hart foundation/demolition match is one of my favourite of all time.
the infamous match where the dogs dropped the titles to the hart foundation as dynamite's back was done in and finished. heartbreaking, but at least he'd taught davey well enough and wow look at his workrate eh?
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Post by Eustache on Dec 28, 2010 16:35:02 GMT -5
that hart foundation/demolition match is one of my favourite of all time. the infamous match where the dogs dropped the titles to the hart foundation as dynamite's back was done in and finished. heartbreaking, but at least he'd taught davey well enough and wow look at his workrate eh? That match came across perfectly on TV back then. Dynamite's back was so bad that he could not even walk to the ring. Davey Boy actually had to carry him piggyback to the ring where Jimmy Hart "hit" Dynamite with the megaphone in the back of the head. This is why he never makes it inside the ring. On TV, they came back from commercial when Dynamite was already on the floor. I remember Vince saying that the Harts had attacked the Bulldogs from behind while they were on their way to the ring. And by having Danny Davis being his usual unbiased self they managed to turn a negative into a positive in many ways. -They got the belts off the Bulldogs who still looked strong because they were screwed. -The Harts were a great team that had to cheap-shot their way to the belts. -Danny Davis was over big as a heelish referee and this was his crowning achievement. They would never go through the trouble of finding such a perfect way of getting the belts off the Bulldogs in today's world. They would have Davey Boy choose another partner to defend the belts or they would just strip the Bulldogs of the title and have a bunch of make shift teams in a 4 way match to crown the new champs. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2010 18:27:58 GMT -5
agreed Eustache.....this was strong creative work that is TOTALLY absent today.
I mean look at Summerslam 88.....Vinnie laid the seeds of the Mega Powers break up at the end of that match.talk about forward thinking......and look at the results it yielded-some would say the highlight feud of both mens WWF run or even career.box offie wise it was Hogans best feud in WWF.
lon story short the billion $$ boobob and her braintrust havent got "it"and they wont at this stage.I mean did you hear how they have Cena talk last night on Raw........Holy Jesus.The main face comes across like a child who cant think of what to say......
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Post by Eustache on Dec 28, 2010 20:01:33 GMT -5
You are right JokerFC. But as much as I like having 6 first-run hours of WWE every week with competitive matches, I think it is making it difficult for creative to come up with angles that make sense every week. In the days of the Bulldogs and Harts, there were only Superstars and Challenge and 4 out 5 matches were squash matches. Add the occasional SNME and only 4 ppv per year. It had to make things easier from the creative stand point. They should get rid of NXT and Superstars and cut the number of ppv to 8 per year. It would give creative time to put together angles that would make sense and that we would care about. I know it won't happen but an old man can dream  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2010 7:41:48 GMT -5
You are right JokerFC. But as much as I like having 6 first-run hours of WWE every week with competitive matches, I think it is making it difficult for creative to come up with angles that make sense every week. In the days of the Bulldogs and Harts, there were only Superstars and Challenge and 4 out 5 matches were squash matches. Add the occasional SNME and only 4 ppv per year. It had to make things easier from the creative stand point. They should get rid of NXT and Superstars and cut the number of ppv to 8 per year. It would give creative time to put together angles that would make sense and that we would care about. I know it won't happen but an old man can dream agreed man-theres simply too much going on and too many folks and as little as 3 weeks between some PPVs. even if it were to change my confidence in the Billion $$ boobjob wouldnt improve. |
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