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Post by Kliquid on Jan 11, 2011 11:58:51 GMT -5
Rep. Peter King, a Republican from New York, is planning to introduce legislation that would make it illegal to bring a gun within 1,000 feet of a government official, according to a person familiar with the congressman's intentions. King is chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee. Just plain dumb. This guy had an illegal gun. Do you really think he's going to say, "Well, I would've brought my illegal gun to the rally, but it's against the law and I don't want to break the law." Dumb, dumb, dumb. Nothing more than knee jerk posturing. Indeed. I can't believe how hard this is for people to understand. |
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Post by slappy on Jan 11, 2011 12:06:58 GMT -5
Giffords' doctor says her prognosis for survival is 100%.
As it turns out the gun may not have actually been illegal. During the Bush administration, the assault weapon ban lapsed and was never renewed.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Jan 11, 2011 12:30:41 GMT -5
Giffords' doctor says her prognosis for survival is 100%. As it turns out the gun may not have actually been illegal. During the Bush administration, the assault weapon ban lapsed and was never renewed. Still, the guy shot and killed several people. Do you think the fact that he was breaking the law to do that would've stopped him? |
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Post by slappy on Jan 11, 2011 12:43:57 GMT -5
Giffords' doctor says her prognosis for survival is 100%. As it turns out the gun may not have actually been illegal. During the Bush administration, the assault weapon ban lapsed and was never renewed. Still, the guy shot and killed several people. Do you think the fact that he was breaking the law to do that would've stopped him? If they were illegal, he wouldn't have been able to bought the gun where he did. Sure, he could have gotten a gun elsewhere, but he wouldn't have been able to one there. |
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Post by Tim of thee on Jan 11, 2011 12:48:05 GMT -5
I am not entirely sure the gun should be in question. I believe the issue here is with it's high capacity magazine. Still, the guy planned ahead, so banning firearms or putting regulations on ammunition would not have had any effect, imo.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Jan 11, 2011 12:51:14 GMT -5
Still, the guy shot and killed several people. Do you think the fact that he was breaking the law to do that would've stopped him? If they were illegal, he wouldn't have been able to bought the gun where he did. Sure, he could have gotten a gun elsewhere, but he wouldn't have been able to one there. No, you're wrong. Let's say where you are that there's a 24 hour waiting period to buy a gun. So it's illegal to buy a gun in less than 24 hours. Can you really tell me that there's no where in town where you could purchase a gun in less than 24 hours? No. There's always a black market. You could purchase a gun by dinner time if you wanted to. Just making something illegal doesn't make it unavailable. |
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Post by slappy on Jan 11, 2011 13:01:31 GMT -5
If they were illegal, he wouldn't have been able to bought the gun where he did. Sure, he could have gotten a gun elsewhere, but he wouldn't have been able to one there. No, you're wrong. Let's say where you are that there's a 24 hour waiting period to buy a gun. So it's illegal to buy a gun in less than 24 hours. Can you really tell me that there's no where in town where you could purchase a gun in less than 24 hours? No. There's always a black market. You could purchase a gun by dinner time if you wanted to. Just making something illegal doesn't make it unavailable. Yes. Hence my saying "Sure, he could have gotten a gun elsewhere." If all these people were questioning his sanity and he was kicked out of school until he had a mental evaluation, he still should have been on a list to tell gun dealers that he's crazy. Again, he could still get it on the black market, but he wouldn't be able to get it legally. |
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Jan 11, 2011 13:05:39 GMT -5
No, you're wrong. Let's say where you are that there's a 24 hour waiting period to buy a gun. So it's illegal to buy a gun in less than 24 hours. Can you really tell me that there's no where in town where you could purchase a gun in less than 24 hours? No. There's always a black market. You could purchase a gun by dinner time if you wanted to. Just making something illegal doesn't make it unavailable. Yes. Hence my saying "Sure, he could have gotten a gun elsewhere." If all these people were questioning his sanity and he was kicked out of school until he had a mental evaluation, he still should have been on a list to tell gun dealers that he's crazy. Again, he could still get it on the black market, but he wouldn't be able to get it legally. You're just making my point though. Making something like a gun illegal doesn't stop people from getting it. Drugs have been illegal for how many years and people still manage to get them. They're very widely available. Being illegal means nothing. |
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Post by slappy on Jan 11, 2011 13:14:37 GMT -5
Yes. Hence my saying "Sure, he could have gotten a gun elsewhere." If all these people were questioning his sanity and he was kicked out of school until he had a mental evaluation, he still should have been on a list to tell gun dealers that he's crazy. Again, he could still get it on the black market, but he wouldn't be able to get it legally. You're just making my point though. Making something like a gun illegal doesn't stop people from getting it. Drugs have been illegal for how many years and people still manage to get them. They're very widely available. Being illegal means nothing. Well if people are going to do illegal things, might as well make everything legal. |
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Jan 11, 2011 14:08:34 GMT -5
Guns shouldn't be  ing legal in the first place. |
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Post by slappy on Jan 11, 2011 14:27:40 GMT -5
She is breathing on her own now.
Also, Glock pistol sales in Arizona jumped 60 percent on Jan. 10.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Jan 11, 2011 14:31:15 GMT -5
You're just making my point though. Making something like a gun illegal doesn't stop people from getting it. Drugs have been illegal for how many years and people still manage to get them. They're very widely available. Being illegal means nothing. Well if people are going to do illegal things, might as well make everything legal. Things are illegal for two reasons. 1. To set a list of rules for everyone to play by. 2. To punish people who don't play nice. That's basically it. Setting a speed limit on a road, for example, is an example of the first reason. You set the limit at 35 mph so everyone drives about the same speed on the road. Most traffic laws fall in this category. Also, they're generally obeyed by generally law abiding citizens. Bad guys don't care about this kind of law or any other kind of law for that matter. Murder is illegal for the second reason. It's pretty much common sense that we shouldn't be walking around killing people for no reason. Murder is illegal so we have the ability to punish those who kill other people. Neither of these is a good reason to make a law banning guns within 1,000 feet of a public official. It's not going to make a difference. Even if we already had a law on the books saying that it would make no difference in this case. It would not have stopped the guy from doing what he did. I think we'd both agree on that. It would give us the ability to punish him more for what he did. That's pointless. He killed six people. He's eligible for the death penalty. What else can you do to him? Even if he hadn't killed anyone and just shot at people, he'd still go to jail for a long, long, long time for assault with a deadly weapon, attempted murder, etc.... There's no point in tacking on more years to what would be a ridiculously long sentence anyway. |
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Post by slappy on Jan 11, 2011 15:36:34 GMT -5
Rush Limbaugh: Loughner has full support of Democratic Party.
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Post by Kliquid on Jan 11, 2011 15:41:13 GMT -5
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Post by Cult Member BriGuy on Jan 11, 2011 15:58:21 GMT -5
People are insane. They are saying isn't it odd that today is January 8, 2011. 1/8/11. 1 + 8 = 9. 9/11. These people are, no pun intended, dead serious. The 9-year-old girl that was killed was born on 9/11/2001. You've all been mind-fudged. I thought you were joking about this.  |
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Jan 11, 2011 16:05:07 GMT -5
I think it's been established that Sarah Palin was behind the Kennedy Assassination, 9/11 and these Arizona shootings. Math has proved it. You can't argue with math.
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Post by slappy on Jan 11, 2011 16:15:44 GMT -5
I think it's been established that Sarah Palin was behind the Kennedy Assassination, 9/11 and these Arizona shootings. Math has proved it. You can't argue with math. Holy shit. Palin was born on 2/11. Karl Marx died on 3/14. 11-2 = 9 14-3 = 11 9/11 Sarah Palin killed Karl Marx. |
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Jan 11, 2011 16:31:01 GMT -5
No. Palin IS Karl Marx.
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Post by Flava Dave on Jan 11, 2011 17:06:10 GMT -5
He said "Gilfords" like three times. |
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Post by slappy on Jan 11, 2011 18:51:27 GMT -5
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