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Post by Gazza on Jan 9, 2011 23:40:49 GMT -5
Anderson over came the odds of having a match before, facing a fresh Jeff and kicking out of his finishers. It makes Anderson look strong and great, whilst winning the title. EXACTLY! Anderson looks super strong and super great. Hardy looks piss poor weak and there was little build for Anderson. But Anderson looking strong and great makes it mean more for his title win, was my point. I'm on the fence of it making Jeff look weak, whilst it does to a point. I do see the side of people saying it doesn't. But, In my personal opinion nobody should kick out of 4 finishers. |
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Post by No Brokeback on Jan 9, 2011 23:41:14 GMT -5
I thought the match was over after the Swanton as well.
But man, I just wish more would have felt the same excitement I did for that ending. It just felt great to witness and spend money on. But I understand each argument.
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Jan 9, 2011 23:41:49 GMT -5
This site will never reach an agreement on anything lol
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 9, 2011 23:41:51 GMT -5
of couse he came in over confident. But still doesnt take away the fact that he hit 2 twists and 1 swanton on a guy who had just been beaten up by Matt Morgan and is suffering from symptoms of a concussion. Then 1 Mic. Check and Hardy is beat. To say Hardy didnt know about this match. I'm sure within the story, this was Bischoff's plan. Whoever wins, Hardy comes down to pick the bones. So Hardy knew, while Anderson/Morgan did not. Anderson doing whatever....I get it. Lets build that into a match. A REAL match. Get the heat on Hardy so the title change means more. The thing is... as been told over the past few weeks: Who is to say Anderson isn't working everyone with his concussion? Yes, he sold it in the match like he was having problems but Tenay and Morgan both have questioned wether he's working everyone which it seemed like he was with the ending to the match (against Morgan). Let's just drop it, you're not going to change my mind and I'm not going to change yours. I don't need a higher warning level. I actually thought that exact idea. Anderson was working the concussion angle to sucker Morgan so he could be the bunghole he is and win by using his brain over the size and strength of Morgan. HOWEVER, still doesnt change Hardy looking weak. The problem isnt Anderson winning the title....its how it was done. Though I would prefer putting the title on Anderson in a big time built match. Shows you have confidence in this guy to be #1. jfinamore is right, in that in big matches... each guys kicks out of the other's finishers all the time. Keywords: EACH GUY... not just one. If I remember well SG, Hardy hit the first within seconds of being in the ring. Anderson kicked out, Hardy beat on him a little, then hit the second. Either way, the Swanton should have ended it, or at least another finisher/signature move from Anderson. - Triple S Anderson did hit another signature move, he hit the rolling firemans carry which is one of his signatures in TNA. He's used it a lot more in matches than any other move besides the mic check. The Green Bay Roll, I think thats what it was called, came off the middle rope....not on the mat. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2011 23:41:59 GMT -5
I'm talking something believable. Not a rolling fireman's carry. Another Mic Check, Kenton Bomb, hell... even a Green Bay Plunge.
- Triple S
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 9, 2011 23:43:08 GMT -5
I'm talking something believable. Not a rolling fireman's carry. Another Mic Check, Kenton Bomb, hell... even a Green Bay Plunge. - Triple S Green Bay Plunge...thats it. Not Roll. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2011 23:44:48 GMT -5
Green Bay Roll sounds like some sort of sushi, consisting of cheese. Haha.
- Triple S
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Post by Gore on Jan 9, 2011 23:46:23 GMT -5
Why does Jeff need to look strong in this? He's a cowardly heel champion.
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 9, 2011 23:46:23 GMT -5
I'm talking something believable. Not a rolling fireman's carry. Another Mic Check, Kenton Bomb, hell... even a Green Bay Plunge. - Triple S A rolling firemans carry, a mic check, a swinging neck breaker, a discus clothesline by a giant, DDT, mixed in with a flurry of kicks, punches, etc... is believable. Everything Anderson did during the match with Hardy worked toward the mic check due to the neck/head/torso area of Hardy. Plus, the one mic check built up more of a "WOW!" factor in the match, it caught people off guard. We're never going to agree on this matter, lol. |
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 9, 2011 23:46:57 GMT -5
Why does Jeff need to look strong in this? He's a cowardly heel champion. DING.DING.DING.DING We have a winner... That and the heel rarely looks strong in a losing effort. |
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on Jan 9, 2011 23:48:35 GMT -5
Last I checked, at the time I posted those comments, this was a discussion forum, which is exactly what I was doing: discussing the events of the night. What I'm doing is no different from someone saying that CM Punk joining the Nexus is stupid, no different than someone saying that the ending to The Sopranos sucked, or someone that doesn't like Michael Vick making "snide remarks". Until a mod deems what I'm saying is inappropriate, which by the way last I checked, you're no longer one. Just because I'm talking sh*t on your favorite wrestler doesn't mean I'm doing anything wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2011 23:50:56 GMT -5
Which is also the point of a message board, to debate and discuss. As long as people can be mature about it, it doesn't turn into fighting and a bad thing. Haha.
Hardy can go as long as he did with Angle, but can't take one Mic Check from Anderson? I could get it if Hardy had nagging neck injury or something going into the match, but that's not the case.
- Triple S
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Post by No Brokeback on Jan 9, 2011 23:53:52 GMT -5
Do you know why the first Twist of Fate wasn't effective? Or the second?
Obviously the jacket, slight shoulder pads cushioned the fall for Mr Anderson. Therefor, making no one look weak. Blame it on the jacket!
The third one is the only one that counted.
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 9, 2011 23:54:33 GMT -5
Which is also the point of a message board, to debate and discuss. As long as people can be mature about it, it doesn't turn into fighting and a bad thing. Haha. Hardy can go as long as he did with Angle, but can't take one Mic Check from Anderson? I could get it if Hardy had nagging neck injury or something going into the match, but that's not the case. - Triple S Hardy was the good working, hardy worker, babyface then though. Now, he's the sly heel that will take short cuts when he wants to. It's not different than when Hardy bailed from the ring when Anderson returned with a pipe. Immortal, Fortune, and Hardy all bailed from the ring because of ONE MAN with a pipe. Why? They're cowardly heels. |
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Post by OverTheEdge on Jan 9, 2011 23:54:41 GMT -5
What the hell did he do to his hair?  Get up on your feet... |
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Post by Gore on Jan 9, 2011 23:55:17 GMT -5
Which is also the point of a message board, to debate and discuss. As long as people can be mature about it, it doesn't turn into fighting and a bad thing. Haha. Hardy can go as long as he did with Angle, but can't take one Mic Check from Anderson? I could get it if Hardy had nagging neck injury or something going into the match, but that's not the case. - Triple S It's all about what the audience wants to see. When Jeff is a face, people want to see him have an epic battle with Angle. When he's heel, they want to see the face make him look weak. It's a traditional battle of good vs. evil, and what society expects from such a confrontation. |
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 9, 2011 23:57:32 GMT -5
Which is also the point of a message board, to debate and discuss. As long as people can be mature about it, it doesn't turn into fighting and a bad thing. Haha. Hardy can go as long as he did with Angle, but can't take one Mic Check from Anderson? I could get it if Hardy had nagging neck injury or something going into the match, but that's not the case. - Triple S It's all about what the audience wants to see. When Jeff is a face, people want to see him have an epic battle with Angle. When he's heel, they want to see the face make him look weak. It's a traditional battle of good vs. evil, and what society expects from such a confrontation. Pretty much. The iMPACT Zone went nuts over Anderson winning, they weren't sitting there booing because Hardy looked weak. The triumphant babyface went over, that's the golden ticket. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 9, 2011 23:57:32 GMT -5
Why does Jeff need to look strong in this? He's a cowardly heel champion. He doesnt need to look strong. He needs to look credible and NOT WEAK. No one is clamoring for Hardy to be booked strong. We are clamoring for credibility and not to look weak. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2011 23:57:36 GMT -5
OTE, OMG!?
Could that be a sign that we WILL get our 3 Count reunion!? Since nobody knows which Denny's Evan is working at. We'll have the debuting Shane Helms, Shannon Moore and the NEW leader... Matt Hardy.
- Triple S
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Post by OverTheEdge on Jan 9, 2011 23:59:03 GMT -5
OTE, OMG!? Could that be a sign that we WILL get our 3 Count reunion!? Since nobody knows which Denny's Evan is working at. We'll have the debuting Shane Helms, Shannon Moore and the NEW leader... Matt Hardy. - Triple S Hey, all they'd need is the green plywood circles. |
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