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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 10, 2011 0:23:36 GMT -5
Okay, here's my final post on this matter:
Pro-Wrestling is like a "good vs. evil" movie, especially an action one full of gun fire, explosions, etc. The good guy will prevail no matter what. He's going to survive the gun fire, the explosions, the fist fights, the knife fights, and he'll triumpt with something silly like one or two bullets to the bad buy.
It's the same thing, but I don't sit there at the end of an action movie and say "Well, why didn't the bad guy just get a bigger gun?". I sit there for two hours and get into the movie, get behind the good guy, pray the bad guy dies in the end, and hopes the girl survives. I'm not worried that the good guy survived three explosions, two gun fights, and a knife fight. Why? Because it's a movie.
It's pro-wrestling.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2011 0:24:37 GMT -5
SG: You're done with the discussion, because CM makes a very valid point. If it were done to Anderson, you'd be saying the same thing.
N-Gage: I have a strong feeling you don't watch WWE anymore, besides WrestleManias. It happens quite a lot, seriously.
CM & Bockwinkel: Enough. That has nothing to do with the Genesis Pay-Per-View, or even wrestling. Will not have that bickering and childish fighting in here. If it continues, you'll both be reported.
- Triple S
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 10, 2011 0:27:21 GMT -5
SG: You're done with the discussion, because CM makes a very valid point. If it were done to Anderson, you'd be saying the same thing. N-Gage: I have a strong feeling you don't watch WWE anymore, besides WrestleManias. It happens quite a lot, seriously. CM & Bockwinkel: Enough. That has nothing to do with the Genesis Pay-Per-View, or even wrestling. Will not have that bickering and childish fighting in here. If it continues, you'll both be reported. - Triple S No, I wouldn't be. I'm a fan of Rob Van Dam and was angry when he wrestled Hardy, won the world title from AJ in the same night. So, you can drop this crap of "You only disagree because it's not someone you're a fan of".
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Post by jfinnomore on Jan 10, 2011 0:27:33 GMT -5
it happened on SD too Big Show kicked out of Drew's and Dolph's finishers. It happens more often in title matches and PPV's rather then just basic Raw/SD matches. No, it pretty much RARELY ever happens anymore. Not even on PPVs or in big title matches... Like I said, it happened maybe three times in the past year, not including Wrestlemania. I remember Wade Barrett doing it, and Miz but that's it. it happened at Survivor Series when Edge kicked out of the chokeslam. so I just named 3 times its happened in the past month and a half. maybe try watching more WWE before saying they don't do certain things.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 10, 2011 0:29:57 GMT -5
No, it pretty much RARELY ever happens anymore. Not even on PPVs or in big title matches... Like I said, it happened maybe three times in the past year, not including Wrestlemania. I remember Wade Barrett doing it, and Miz but that's it. it happened at Survivor Series when Edge kicked out of the chokeslam. so I just named 3 times its happened in the past month and a half. maybe try watching more WWE before saying they don't do certain things. I bet you could go all night with this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2011 0:30:34 GMT -5
Okay, here's my final post on this matter: Pro-Wrestling is like a "good vs. evil" movie, especially an action one full of gun fire, explosions, etc. The good guy will prevail no matter what. He's going to survive the gun fire, the explosions, the fist fights, the knife fights, and he'll triumpt with something silly like one or two bullets to the bad buy. It's the same thing, but I don't sit there at the end of an action movie and say "Well, why didn't the bad guy just get a bigger gun?". I sit there for two hours and get into the movie, get behind the good guy, pray the bad guy dies in the end, and hopes the girl survives. I'm not worried that the good guy survived three explosions, two gun fights, and a knife fight. Why? Because it's a movie. It's pro-wrestling. I'm sorry man, but that was the worst analogy I've probably ever seen/heard... While the good guy winning is predicted, it doesn't always happen in that fashion though. Those are called "terrible", or "lackluster" endings. When the "good guy" goes through a beating from the "bad guy" and kills him with something simple, like a punch. - Triple S
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 10, 2011 0:32:39 GMT -5
Okay, here's my final post on this matter: Pro-Wrestling is like a "good vs. evil" movie, especially an action one full of gun fire, explosions, etc. The good guy will prevail no matter what. He's going to survive the gun fire, the explosions, the fist fights, the knife fights, and he'll triumpt with something silly like one or two bullets to the bad buy. It's the same thing, but I don't sit there at the end of an action movie and say "Well, why didn't the bad guy just get a bigger gun?". I sit there for two hours and get into the movie, get behind the good guy, pray the bad guy dies in the end, and hopes the girl survives. I'm not worried that the good guy survived three explosions, two gun fights, and a knife fight. Why? Because it's a movie. It's pro-wrestling. I'm sorry man, but that was the worst analogy I've probably ever seen/heard... While the good guy winning is predicted, it doesn't always happen in that fashion though. Those are called "terrible", or "lackluster" endings. When the "good guy" goes through a beating from the "bad guy" and kills him with something simple, like a punch. - Triple S I didn't say a simple punch... but it's the same thing. The good guy gets blew up in a building yet is okay? He gets shot at but never hit? And he kills the bad guy by shooting him a few times with a pistol... ti's the same thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2011 0:33:19 GMT -5
SG: RVD/Styles was done a lot differently then Hardy/Anderson. Van Dam didn't kick out of 2 Spinal Taps (or is it Spiral Tap?) and a Styles Clash, only to hit Styles with 1 5-Star and win.
- Triple S
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on Jan 10, 2011 0:33:41 GMT -5
Sorry, TripS.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 10, 2011 0:34:03 GMT -5
Pro wrestling has taken a step away from good vs. evil. Not totally, as clearly it does exist. But it has evolved as well. Hell.....Del Rio just finished his feud with Mysterio and he came out the victor.
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Post by SodaGuy on Jan 10, 2011 0:38:10 GMT -5
Okay, I'm not going to keep going back and forth on this crap. It's useless because you're not going to change my mind, this has turned into nothing but shots at me for looking at "positives" and how I would be saying the same thing had it happened to Anderson. Typical "discussion" on WF
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2011 0:41:44 GMT -5
No, it pretty much RARELY ever happens anymore. Not even on PPVs or in big title matches... Like I said, it happened maybe three times in the past year, not including Wrestlemania. I remember Wade Barrett doing it, and Miz but that's it. it happened at Survivor Series when Edge kicked out of the chokeslam. so I just named 3 times its happened in the past month and a half. maybe try watching more WWE before saying they don't do certain things. Except Kane's finisher nowadays is the Tombstone. He's been using that as the match finisher ever since he turned heel. I watch WWE every week, and they rarely kick out of finishers... I'm not talking about kicking out of something like The Undertaker's chokeslam, I'm talking about real match-enders. Nobody has done it in quite a while now.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 10, 2011 0:42:27 GMT -5
it happened at Survivor Series when Edge kicked out of the chokeslam. so I just named 3 times its happened in the past month and a half. maybe try watching more WWE before saying they don't do certain things. Except Kane's finisher nowadays is the Tombstone. He's been using that as the match finisher ever since he turned heel. I watch WWE every week, and they rarely kick out of finishers... I'm not talking about kicking out of something like The Undertaker's chokeslam, I'm talking about real match-enders. Nobody has done it in quite a while now. Kane has used the chokeslam as a finisher countless times.
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Post by jfinnomore on Jan 10, 2011 0:44:05 GMT -5
it happened at Survivor Series when Edge kicked out of the chokeslam. so I just named 3 times its happened in the past month and a half. maybe try watching more WWE before saying they don't do certain things. Except Kane's finisher nowadays is the Tombstone. He's been using that as the match finisher ever since he turned heel. I watch WWE every week, and they rarely kick out of finishers... I'm not talking about kicking out of something like The Undertaker's chokeslam, I'm talking about real match-enders. Nobody has done it in quite a while now. as I said The Miz and Big Show both kicked out of finishers this week. so if 3 days is "quite a while" I suppose you're right.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2011 0:46:43 GMT -5
N-Gage clearly has no idea what he's talking about, considering Kane only used the Tombstone as a finisher during his feud with The Undertaker.
Either way, that's not Genesis-related... so yeah, no more WWE talk. Unless is being used as a comparison with something TNA/Genesis oriented. Thank you.
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Post by tom on Jan 10, 2011 1:23:13 GMT -5
My reaction to Matt Hardy...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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Post by the hell demon on Jan 10, 2011 1:42:22 GMT -5
My reaction to Matt Hardy... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. indeed
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Post by Random Hero Est. 2003 on Jan 10, 2011 2:20:38 GMT -5
For everyone saying this made Hardy look weak... What the has Hardy been doing up until Genesis? Nothing. I can't remember his last match. Therefore, he probably wasn't "training" to have a match tonight. Storyline wise, Bischoff probably proposed the idea to Jeff, "After the number on contender match, just go down, hit them with the twist of hate, pin them, and you don't have to do anything." Hell, he was in street clothes and smoking a cigarette before the match. You people are impossible to please and some of you are just plain blind. How is anyone supposed to lose a title in this situation and still look strong? You want TNA to have people losing titles and still look unbeatable? No wonder Bischoff rips people apart on Facebook and creative doesn't give a damn what people say, it makes no sense.
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Post by Joey Cush on Jan 10, 2011 3:32:00 GMT -5
So yeah, is this right: Anderson had match with Morgan. He just barely won, I believe with a rollup? Anderson still has concussion symptoms. Jeff Hardy comes in in street clothes, smoking cigarette (which is pretty badass IYAM). Kind of makes you think Jeff knew before hand Eric was announcing this, but whatever. Jeff hits two Twist of Fate/Hate's on Anderson, kicking out of both. Jeff hits Swanton, Anderson kicks out. somewhere in between this Anderson got glimpses of offense. Anderson hits Mic Check for win. Yeah, Jeff must have totally looked weak as crap IMO.
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Jan 10, 2011 5:59:41 GMT -5
Read Matt Hardy's Twitter for some hilarity from fans, such as:
"@mizgleegirl: @matthardybrand congrats on signing with tna-i'm glad ur with a company that will treat you like the legend you are =)"
and
"@iammattpotts @matthardybrand You being RVD's Mystery opponent made that be the best $44.95 I ever spent thank you so much!"
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