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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Jan 22, 2011 14:28:11 GMT -5
Lyoto Machida and Tito Ortiz need to win their next figt to continue to fight for the UFC.
He also said that GSP vs. Silva is very likely to happen this year.
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Post by MuffFuzz on Jan 22, 2011 14:37:36 GMT -5
I knew it! What did I say? Machida doesn't deserve that, but on the other hand; Yes, cut Tito.
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Post by PrideFcF on Jan 22, 2011 14:59:31 GMT -5
Seems really believable on Tito, considering how ineffective he's been in recent years. Not so sure about Loyoto though. Unless Dana has been really unimpressed with him since the first Shogun fight, it'd seem odd to let Machida go after 1 more loss. Especially considering how controversial the loss to Rampage was. Though perhaps if Machida is absolutely annihilated in his next fight, I could maybe understand it.
As for GSP/Silva, while I do sense we're getting closer to that fight, I'll believe it when I see it. I personally hope that if/when it does happen, both guys are still on their winning streaks. It'd make an already interesting match-up all the more amazing.
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Jan 22, 2011 15:43:10 GMT -5
Dana would not let Machida go if he loses to Couture, I would be over a million dollars that he'd get another shot. This is just one of those situations where Dana is saying that Fighter A has his back against the wall, he's a loss away from a slump, and sh*t needs to get real. No where does he say that "I will release Machida if he loses to Couture." Tito, he'll be out. Arguably he should be out already, he's 0-4-1 in his last five. Come on, now. If little Nogueira was 0-4-1 in his last five he wouldn't be around. Silva vs. St. Pierre? Um, yes the  please. |
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Post by Kliquid on Jan 22, 2011 18:36:12 GMT -5
This is being over-reported.
He said that it's a "must-win" for Machida, but that's because Machida himself "sees it as a must-win."
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Post by K5 on Jan 22, 2011 23:25:51 GMT -5
^ ah, thanks for the clarification. i was going to say that awfully hasty of dana. but yes to gsp/silva! that is an mma fan's ultimate dream. |
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Jan 23, 2011 0:11:26 GMT -5
Dana said "If they want to continue to fight for the UFC, they need to win their next fights."
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Post by Kliquid on Jan 23, 2011 1:06:35 GMT -5
Dana said "If they want to continue to fight for the UFC, they need to win their next fights."
"Tito's got to win this fight to stay in the UFC," White said. "If he loses this fight, he'll probably retire."
On Machida...
"He's had two losses in a row," White told the troops. "Right after he won the title, (UFC on-air analyst Joe) Rogan said this is 'The Machida Era,' and I thought so too. Then Shogun beat him, and then he just lost to Rampage. Now he's fighting Randy Couture in Toronto – and this is a must-win for him."None of that says, "We're going to cut him." He's trying to sell the fight with Machida and Couture. How many times does Dana say craplike this? It's like, every press conference. He's constantly talking about how guys "need to win." Tito hasn't won a fight since 2006. Do you really think that Dana is going to cut Machida, a guy who was the champion like a year ago, because he has lost three fights in a row against ELITE competition? I mean, come on. It's preposterous to think that's going to happen. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2011 3:21:05 GMT -5
I hope Machida wins then, it'd suck for him to be cut like that, after being undefeated for some time...as for Silva VS GSP, that should be proper awesome...
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Post by 1992 on Jan 24, 2011 3:26:22 GMT -5
I'll believe the Silva/GSP rumor when they're staring each other down in the middle of the Octagon with a referee between them reading out the rules.
Not discrediting you at all PB, but I'm just saying that fight is so much of a dream for me, I'll literally have to see it to believe it.
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Post by SteveHulk on Jan 28, 2011 5:33:53 GMT -5
Tito hasn't won a fight since 2006. Do you really think that Dana is going to cut Machida, a guy who was the champion like a year ago, because he has lost three fights in a row against ELITE competition? I mean, come on. It's preposterous to think that's going to happen. Agreed. There's NO WAY Machida would be cut if he lost to Couture... he's been fighting only top guys and has been very competitive - remember: a lot of people thought he beat Rampage last time out... including Rampage himself judging by his post-fight expressions/interview, lol. It's a different situation for Tito though... he really needs to win or it could be the end of his career (or his UFC career, anyway). |
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Post by 1992 on Jan 28, 2011 11:15:58 GMT -5
I'm sure Ortiz would just defect to a bush league if they cut him. He'll always be a decent name and draw, regardless of how downhill his career is.
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