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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Aug 24, 2011 18:59:30 GMT -5
I think Tebow will be like Reggie Bush. A phenominal athlete, could be an impact player. But went way to high in the draft and got payed way to much. Which cripples the team from trading him, unless he is willing to restructure (Bush this year with Miami). The best thing for Tebow is to sit and learn, but him being a first round pick means people want to see him play now. Not make him a project.
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Post by AONI on Aug 24, 2011 19:05:06 GMT -5
thats BS. the trophies dont come with expiration dates If its been 3 decades since you won a title and your fanbase right now wasnt even born last time that happened, I think the "Champions" title has expired. i didnt bring up SBs to brag about them. i brought them up because the common sentiment seems to be that OAK is the worst franchise in the league because of Al Davis. that is false. |
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Post by T R W on Aug 24, 2011 19:51:46 GMT -5
If its been 3 decades since you won a title and your fanbase right now wasnt even born last time that happened, I think the "Champions" title has expired. i didnt bring up SBs to brag about them. i brought them up because the common sentiment seems to be that OAK is the worst franchise in the league because of Al Davis. that is false. They aren't the worst. But they are currently one of the worst. |
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Aug 24, 2011 20:25:07 GMT -5
If its been 3 decades since you won a title and your fanbase right now wasnt even born last time that happened, I think the "Champions" title has expired. i didnt bring up SBs to brag about them. i brought them up because the common sentiment seems to be that OAK is the worst franchise in the league because of Al Davis. that is false. Id go as far to say they are the worst, what do they have? Nothing right now, nothing in the future, they have an owner that makes them worse, they arent good drafters, they do not have a ton of picks, they do not even draft well. They just lost their best player too. Darren McFadden.....I mean, I would say they are the worst |
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Post by Alpha Q Up on Aug 24, 2011 21:18:03 GMT -5
I stated before that the lockout would end up causing many buckling of players legs/lower body due to not practicing for an amount of time, it obviously has effected the Giants, and as I said before I would not be suprised if some top players who usaully have top conditioning end up not playing before week 1.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Aug 24, 2011 21:55:59 GMT -5
i didnt bring up SBs to brag about them. i brought them up because the common sentiment seems to be that OAK is the worst franchise in the league because of Al Davis. that is false. Id go as far to say they are the worst, what do they have? Nothing right now, nothing in the future, they have an owner that makes them worse, they arent good drafters, they do not have a ton of picks, they do not even draft well. They just lost their best player too. Darren McFadden.....I mean, I would say they are the worst I would agree, but only slightly behind the Bungles. |
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Post by Tim of thee on Aug 24, 2011 22:57:52 GMT -5
If its been 3 decades since you won a title and your fanbase right now wasnt even born last time that happened, I think the "Champions" title has expired. i didnt bring up SBs to brag about them. i brought them up because the common sentiment seems to be that OAK is the worst franchise in the league because of Al Davis. that is false. al davis is the sole reason they are in the dumps |
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Post by AONI on Aug 25, 2011 0:31:37 GMT -5
Id go as far to say they are the worst, what do they have? Nothing right now, nothing in the future, they have an owner that makes them worse, they arent good drafters, they do not have a ton of picks, they do not even draft well. They just lost their best player too. Darren McFadden.....I mean, I would say they are the worst you couldnt even name half the starters on either unit so how would you know what they have? i realize as a fan that i carry a bias. but the thing is, there are people who arent fans saying that OAK has a promising roster, without Nnamdi or Zach Miller |
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Post by AONI on Aug 25, 2011 0:41:07 GMT -5
i didnt bring up SBs to brag about them. i brought them up because the common sentiment seems to be that OAK is the worst franchise in the league because of Al Davis. that is false. al davis is the sole reason they are in the dumps really? because the players have nothing to do with it? the coaches have nothing to do with it? if NE won another SB, would Kraft be the only reason they won it? no. OBVIOUSLY, al davis doesnt run his organization like Kraft or a majority of owners. but regardless, he doesnt suit up on gameday. he doesnt call the plays. he hires the coaches, pays the players, but his involvement stops there. when the Raiders fail, it falls on the shoulders of all three components of that team, owner, coach, and player. just like any other team honestly, if OAK won the SB this year, would you say to yourself, "al davis did a damn good job winning that SB"? or would you say that he did a good job bringing in the players and coaches to do so? |
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Post by Alpha Q Up on Aug 25, 2011 0:49:02 GMT -5
I still can't get over the fact that Al Davis drafted Heyward Bay over Nicks, Maclin, Harvin and Crabtree.
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Post by sonstuds on Aug 25, 2011 1:01:01 GMT -5
I still can't get over the fact that Al Davis drafted Heyward Bay over Nicks, Maclin, Harvin and Crabtree. And Britt, though at the rate he's going he'll be in jail in two years. |
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Post by machoking on Aug 25, 2011 1:04:10 GMT -5
Patrick Willis went to Spain because he heard about the running of the bulls. The bulls got only 3 yards on 14 carries.  |
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Post by Alpha Q Up on Aug 25, 2011 1:08:38 GMT -5
I still can't get over the fact that Al Davis drafted Heyward Bay over Nicks, Maclin, Harvin and Crabtree. And Britt, though at the rate he's going he'll be in jail in two years. Yeah, Britt has the potential to be a playmaker, I'm a Rutgers fan so at the time I wanted the Giants to draft him over Nicks, happy with how it worked out now but Britt could still prove me wrong. |
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Post by Tim of thee on Aug 25, 2011 1:15:04 GMT -5
I still can't get over the fact that Al Davis drafted Heyward Bay over Nicks, Maclin, Harvin and Crabtree. and fired coach after coach creating a sense of instability in their team mentality |
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Post by Tim of thee on Aug 25, 2011 1:16:15 GMT -5
al davis is the sole reason they are in the dumps honestly, if OAK won the SB this year, would you say to yourself, "al davis did a damn good job winning that SB"? or would you say that he did a good job bringing in the players and coaches to do so? I'd call it lucky |
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Post by AONI on Aug 25, 2011 1:20:50 GMT -5
honestly, if OAK won the SB this year, would you say to yourself, "al davis did a damn good job winning that SB"? or would you say that he did a good job bringing in the players and coaches to do so? I'd call it lucky nice one. you managed to answer the question without answering the question  |
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Post by Tim of thee on Aug 25, 2011 1:31:36 GMT -5
nice one. you managed to answer the question without answering the question I answered the question maybe not the way you liked it |
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Post by AONI on Aug 25, 2011 1:33:47 GMT -5
I answered the question maybe not the way you liked it you actually didnt. the point of the question was to see whether or not you actually believe that a teams success begins and ends with their owner. you chose neither...which wasnt an option. |
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Post by Tim of thee on Aug 25, 2011 1:52:42 GMT -5
I answered the question maybe not the way you liked it you actually didnt. the point of the question was to see whether or not you actually believe that a teams success begins and ends with their owner. you chose neither...which wasnt an option. I went with C; none of the above |
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Post by AONI on Aug 25, 2011 2:01:45 GMT -5
you actually didnt. the point of the question was to see whether or not you actually believe that a teams success begins and ends with their owner. you chose neither...which wasnt an option. I went with C; none of the above and evaded the question which isnt the same thing as answering it. but i think its obvious why you wont answer 1. youre wrong 2. youre either too proud to admit it or too stupid to know it |
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