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Post by captain master talbot on Aug 8, 2011 13:17:29 GMT -5
Yea, New England isn't the only team they have to face in the playoffs.
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Post by AONI on Aug 8, 2011 13:17:56 GMT -5
Arizona's secondary even despite losing DRC will still be in great shape. Peterson is a stud, and Greg Toler isn't a pushover either. If Arizona had a pass rusher their D would be really good. i seriously doubt that. you could put James Harrison on this team and Id doubt theyd be any better as a unit. they have no legit NT and theyre tryin to run a 34. ask DEN and CLE what happens when you do that. if you cant stop the run, it doesnt make much of a difference how good your secondary is. trust me, Im a Raiders fan
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Post by Tim of thee on Aug 8, 2011 13:35:24 GMT -5
when is the draft again?
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Post by user9327 on Aug 8, 2011 13:49:22 GMT -5
So let me get this straight... the Jets offered their best D Linemen less money than they did a guy who just got out of prison?
and Osi thinks he's got it bad.
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Post by BV on Aug 8, 2011 14:02:24 GMT -5
Arizona's secondary even despite losing DRC will still be in great shape. Peterson is a stud, and Greg Toler isn't a pushover either. If Arizona had a pass rusher their D would be really good. i seriously doubt that. you could put James Harrison on this team and Id doubt theyd be any better as a unit. they have no legit NT and theyre tryin to run a 34. ask DEN and CLE what happens when you do that. if you cant stop the run, it doesnt make much of a difference how good your secondary is. trust me, Im a Raiders fan They drafted Dan Williams to be their nose tackle, he was potential. Dockett is a great d-linemen in general. Campbell isn't terrible either. Their d-line is above average. If they got a pass rush that secondary would make even more plays.
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Post by Tim Tebow™ on Aug 8, 2011 14:05:02 GMT -5
Cardinals have a decent team, especially in that division where you can have a losing record and still win the division.
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Post by BV on Aug 8, 2011 14:09:48 GMT -5
If Kolb fits with that offense they'll be contenders to win that division, which means they'll be horribly mediocre.
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Post by AONI on Aug 8, 2011 14:31:46 GMT -5
They drafted Dan Williams to be their nose tackle, he was potential. Dockett is a great d-linemen in general. Campbell isn't terrible either. Their d-line is above average. If they got a pass rush that secondary would make even more plays. so above average that as a unit they were in the bottom 5 for giving up rushin yards & TDs? and Dan Williams didnt even start last year again, it dont matter how good your pass rush is if you cant stop the run. teams will run on 1st & 2nd and play the dink and dunk game on 3rd. dont get me wrong, Dockett is great and Campbell is solid. but the NT is the engine for any 34 front. that unit wont be good until they find one
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Post by user9327 on Aug 8, 2011 14:34:35 GMT -5
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Post by BV on Aug 8, 2011 14:43:04 GMT -5
They drafted Dan Williams to be their nose tackle, he was potential. Dockett is a great d-linemen in general. Campbell isn't terrible either. Their d-line is above average. If they got a pass rush that secondary would make even more plays. so above average that as a unit they were in the bottom 5 for giving up rushin yards & TDs? and Dan Williams didnt even start last year again, it dont matter how good your pass rush is if you cant stop the run. teams will run on 1st & 2nd and play the dink and dunk game on 3rd. dont get me wrong, Dockett is great and Campbell is solid. but the NT is the engine for any 34 front. that unit wont be good until they find one I would have a response, but it's Arizona. Who gives a ? lol
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Post by AONI on Aug 8, 2011 14:48:31 GMT -5
so above average that as a unit they were in the bottom 5 for giving up rushin yards & TDs? and Dan Williams didnt even start last year again, it dont matter how good your pass rush is if you cant stop the run. teams will run on 1st & 2nd and play the dink and dunk game on 3rd. dont get me wrong, Dockett is great and Campbell is solid. but the NT is the engine for any 34 front. that unit wont be good until they find one I would have a response, but it's Arizona. Who gives a ? lol truth
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Post by captain master talbot on Aug 8, 2011 15:16:00 GMT -5
Who even knows if Kolb is gonna be good? He's going to be forcing the ball to Fitz, there's no other receiving threat on the team, their o-line is meh, Beanie Wells has disappointed, they have no TE, do you want me to keep on going?
He's gonna be knocked out by Week 4 when the Giants get to him.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Aug 8, 2011 15:28:27 GMT -5
So let me get this straight... the Jets offered their best D Linemen less money than they did a guy who just got out of prison? and Osi thinks he's got it bad. Yeah he has been in the league for 11 years. how much more time does he have? Also they were moving him into a back up role anyway. He didn't even sign for 4-5 mill in NE. He has the ability to make that in incentives.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Aug 8, 2011 15:42:46 GMT -5
So let me get this straight... the Jets offered their best D Linemen less money than they did a guy who just got out of prison? and Osi thinks he's got it bad. Yeah he has been in the league for 11 years. how much more time does he have? Also they were moving him into a back up role anyway. He didn't even sign for 4-5 mill in NE. He has the ability to make that in incentives. Ellis and the Patriots reached agreement on a one-year deal, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter. Ellis will receive $4 million this season with a chance to make another $1 million in performance incentives, a source told ESPN.com senior NFL writer John Clayton. That looks like 4$ base, with 1$ more in incentives to me.
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Post by user9327 on Aug 8, 2011 15:44:50 GMT -5
ok that's a completely different situation.
I thought he signed for 990K or whatever was said.
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Post by TheNinthCloud on Aug 8, 2011 16:21:06 GMT -5
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Post by Dexter Morgan on Aug 8, 2011 17:10:55 GMT -5
Ok guys I have tentatively set the draft for Sun. Aug 21st at 8:00 pm. I know a lot of people wanted Sunday night so yeah. Let me know if that works for you guys.
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Post by twinn on Aug 8, 2011 17:15:40 GMT -5
works for me
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Post by s13driver on Aug 8, 2011 17:20:04 GMT -5
Ray Rice's fantasy value just dropped now that Smokey Williams signed with Baltimore. Rice is gonna be doing all the work and Williams is gonna bang out the 5-yard redzone TDs and take away all of Ray Rice's points. Same thing happened in Miami with Ronnie Brown.
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Post by twinn on Aug 8, 2011 17:25:10 GMT -5
Just like McGahee stole them last year; AND ED ME OVER
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