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Feb 14, 2011 18:45:18 GMT -5
Post by Kliquid on Feb 14, 2011 18:45:18 GMT -5
I've stated several times that it's pointless to decide if it's going to happen or not, & I've also stated we are all going to be fine, been saying this for the past year.. But you can't sit there and argue people's predictions and call them dumbasses yet sit there and claim the same exact thing by saying it's not going to happen, that's making a prediction yourself, you're predicting it won't happen...
Why not just say it will or it won't, maybe and let it be? It's not going to change anybody's opinion that believes in it or don't believe in it. Pointless. I'm predicting that "Mike" from the movie "Monster's Inc." is going to show up at my house tonight to play a game of Cribbage followed by some karaoke and drinks. PROVE ME WRONG
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Feb 14, 2011 18:48:58 GMT -5
Post by Hulkamaniac on Feb 14, 2011 18:48:58 GMT -5
I'm predicting that Megan Fox will knock on my door and beg me for Valentine's Day sex. Dirty, dirty, dirty Valentine's Day sex.
Prove me wrong.
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Feb 14, 2011 19:01:47 GMT -5
Post by Oskanowski on Feb 14, 2011 19:01:47 GMT -5
Both just proved me right.
You are arguing on people's predictions that " have no proof " yet making your own.
& both of your predictions will be proven wrong in the same day you predicted them, we call that fail prediction.
*insert FAIL PREDICITION.JPG HERE* ;D
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Feb 14, 2011 19:41:17 GMT -5
Post by Johnny on Feb 14, 2011 19:41:17 GMT -5
It might. It could also end today or tomorrow.
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Feb 15, 2011 2:00:16 GMT -5
Post by Kliquid on Feb 15, 2011 2:00:16 GMT -5
Both just proved me right.
You are arguing on people's predictions that " have no proof " yet making your own.
& both of your predictions will be proven wrong in the same day you predicted them, we call that fail prediction.
*insert FAIL PREDICITION.JPG HERE* ;D OK, Mike didn't show up tonight. I'm now changing my prediction (see how I did that?) to that it will happen some time in 2013. YOU DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE THAT IT WON'T HAPPEN SO YOUR OPINION IS NO MORE RELEVANT THAN MINE. MIKE IS COMING TO MY HOUSE AND I HEAR HE IS A BALLER CRIBBAGE PLAYER. I HAVE 2 YEARS TO UP MY GAME!!
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Feb 15, 2011 6:48:32 GMT -5
Post by Himmy! on Feb 15, 2011 6:48:32 GMT -5
No Idea, but I feel the same about it ending tomorrow.
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Feb 15, 2011 7:11:58 GMT -5
Post by Revvie® on Feb 15, 2011 7:11:58 GMT -5
This all goes right back to plausibility and probability. YOU CANNOT SAY IT WILL NOT HAPPEN unless it is simply your opinion, YOU CANNOT SAY IT WILL HAPPEN, without it being an opinion.
Perception is what we are made of whether we like it or not we are all a consequence to all of us and in turn also the consequence of us. So we argue, debate, and state "facts" when in truth fact are based on the perceiver....even in science...no human being ever looks at the same tree the same way. I predict nothing about the end of the world and if it ends then so be it and if it doesnt then so be it.
But I will not ever try to interject a "man made fact" into a world of observers who only see through one set of eyes..as I only see through mine.
Actually despite the fact that I dont want to type your name out lol, the guy with the green text follows a patter of a universal truth then a man made one. But then again, when it does end, does it really matter if anyone predicted it or not?
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Feb 15, 2011 9:47:02 GMT -5
Post by Hulkamaniac on Feb 15, 2011 9:47:02 GMT -5
This all goes right back to plausibility and probability. YOU CANNOT SAY IT WILL NOT HAPPEN unless it is simply your opinion, YOU CANNOT SAY IT WILL HAPPEN, without it being an opinion. Perception is what we are made of whether we like it or not we are all a consequence to all of us and in turn also the consequence of us. So we argue, debate, and state "facts" when in truth fact are based on the perceiver....even in science...no human being ever looks at the same tree the same way. I predict nothing about the end of the world and if it ends then so be it and if it doesnt then so be it. But I will not ever try to interject a "man made fact" into a world of observers who only see through one set of eyes..as I only see through mine. Actually despite the fact that I dont want to type your name out lol, the guy with the green text follows a patter of a universal truth then a man made one. But then again, when it does end, does it really matter if anyone predicted it or not? I'm sorry, but that's complete gibberish and complete bullcrapon top of that. I can say for a fact that the Eiffel tower will not fall on my head within the next 30 mins. How can I say this for a fact? I'm not in Paris. There is no physical way for me to get from the US to Paris in 30 mins. There is no physical way for the Eiffel Tower to get from Paris to the US in 30 mins. Therefore we can definitely say it's not going to happen. I can say that I am going to take a sip from my soda can while I'm typing this. I can say that because the can is right at my fingertips and it would be virtually impossible for anyone to stop me. Yes, we can say that Planet X will not hit us in 2011. We can say that there will not be a pole shift. We can say that solar flares will not envelope the Earth. How can we say this? Because in order for any or all of those things to happen, every single law of physics we know would have to be violated. Our physical world that has worked the same for billions of years would suddenly operate in a completely different way. It would be like waking up and discovering that you're now pooping out your mouth and you feed yourself by shoving food in your ears. I'm sorry, but that's not going to happen.
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Feb 15, 2011 10:51:07 GMT -5
Post by Revvie® on Feb 15, 2011 10:51:07 GMT -5
This all goes right back to plausibility and probability. YOU CANNOT SAY IT WILL NOT HAPPEN unless it is simply your opinion, YOU CANNOT SAY IT WILL HAPPEN, without it being an opinion. Perception is what we are made of whether we like it or not we are all a consequence to all of us and in turn also the consequence of us. So we argue, debate, and state "facts" when in truth fact are based on the perceiver....even in science...no human being ever looks at the same tree the same way. I predict nothing about the end of the world and if it ends then so be it and if it doesnt then so be it. But I will not ever try to interject a "man made fact" into a world of observers who only see through one set of eyes..as I only see through mine. Actually despite the fact that I dont want to type your name out lol, the guy with the green text follows a patter of a universal truth then a man made one. But then again, when it does end, does it really matter if anyone predicted it or not? I'm sorry, but that's complete gibberish and complete bullpoop on top of that. I can say for a fact that the Eiffel tower will not fall on my head within the next 30 mins. How can I say this for a fact? I'm not in Paris. There is no physical way for me to get from the US to Paris in 30 mins. There is no physical way for the Eiffel Tower to get from Paris to the US in 30 mins. Therefore we can definitely say it's not going to happen. I can say that I am going to take a sip from my soda can while I'm typing this. I can say that because the can is right at my fingertips and it would be virtually impossible for anyone to stop me. Yes, we can say that Planet X will not hit us in 2011. We can say that there will not be a pole shift. We can say that solar flares will not envelope the Earth. How can we say this? Because in order for any or all of those things to happen, every single law of physics we know would have to be violated. Our physical world that has worked the same for billions of years would suddenly operate in a completely different way. It would be like waking up and discovering that you're now pooping out your mouth and you feed yourself by shoving food in your ears. I'm sorry, but that's not going to happen. So i take it science attempts to understand and effect quantum physics should just be ignored? I mean your saying the world has been the same for billions of years but it hasn't...it has had many changes in the way it works and the way it we effect it...again you just like to assume because someone finds something as one way at that time, that at another time it couldn't be different....so your saying this world has truly never been effected by anything and everything is as it has always been then?
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Feb 15, 2011 11:57:16 GMT -5
Post by Hulkamaniac on Feb 15, 2011 11:57:16 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but that's complete gibberish and complete bullpoop on top of that. I can say for a fact that the Eiffel tower will not fall on my head within the next 30 mins. How can I say this for a fact? I'm not in Paris. There is no physical way for me to get from the US to Paris in 30 mins. There is no physical way for the Eiffel Tower to get from Paris to the US in 30 mins. Therefore we can definitely say it's not going to happen. I can say that I am going to take a sip from my soda can while I'm typing this. I can say that because the can is right at my fingertips and it would be virtually impossible for anyone to stop me. Yes, we can say that Planet X will not hit us in 2011. We can say that there will not be a pole shift. We can say that solar flares will not envelope the Earth. How can we say this? Because in order for any or all of those things to happen, every single law of physics we know would have to be violated. Our physical world that has worked the same for billions of years would suddenly operate in a completely different way. It would be like waking up and discovering that you're now pooping out your mouth and you feed yourself by shoving food in your ears. I'm sorry, but that's not going to happen. So i take it science attempts to understand and effect quantum physics should just be ignored? I mean your saying the world has been the same for billions of years but it hasn't...it has had many changes in the way it works and the way it we effect it...again you just like to assume because someone finds something as one way at that time, that at another time it couldn't be different....so your saying this world has truly never been effected by anything and everything is as it has always been then? Really? So there has been a time when invisible planets with no mass existed? There was a time when the magnetic poles could rapidly shift? When was this?
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Feb 15, 2011 12:43:14 GMT -5
Post by Halloween King on Feb 15, 2011 12:43:14 GMT -5
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Feb 15, 2011 12:59:36 GMT -5
Post by Revvie® on Feb 15, 2011 12:59:36 GMT -5
So i take it science attempts to understand and effect quantum physics should just be ignored? I mean your saying the world has been the same for billions of years but it hasn't...it has had many changes in the way it works and the way it we effect it...again you just like to assume because someone finds something as one way at that time, that at another time it couldn't be different....so your saying this world has truly never been effected by anything and everything is as it has always been then? Really? So there has been a time when invisible planets with no mass existed? There was a time when the magnetic poles could rapidly shift? When was this? Never said that...I was making jest of your comment that this world has never changed over the last billion years. I actually never took a side...the idea of me saying im sure about something is to again say I know it all and I dont know it all....but obviously you must you always have the answers regardless if they were not your own but others who you have assumed the side of...and most of them(scientist) still continuously test their theories...i think we have been through this. Even Hawking said that the plausibility of a evolutionary cycle being diff. could end in talking dogs BUT that seems ludicrous to us and everything we understand about science...I know Hawking was only speaking on plausibility and not probability but then again so I am.....
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Feb 15, 2011 13:32:08 GMT -5
Post by Symmetry on Feb 15, 2011 13:32:08 GMT -5
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Feb 15, 2011 13:44:26 GMT -5
Post by Hulkamaniac on Feb 15, 2011 13:44:26 GMT -5
Really? So there has been a time when invisible planets with no mass existed? There was a time when the magnetic poles could rapidly shift? When was this? Never said that...I was making jest of your comment that this world has never changed over the last billion years. I actually never took a side...the idea of me saying im sure about something is to again say I know it all and I dont know it all....but obviously you must you always have the answers regardless if they were not your own but others who you have assumed the side of...and most of them(scientist) still continuously test their theories...i think we have been through this. Even Hawking said that the plausibility of a evolutionary cycle being diff. could end in talking dogs BUT that seems ludicrous to us and everything we understand about science...I know Hawking was only speaking on plausibility and not probability but then again so I am..... Your argument is beyond ridiculous and hard to comprehend in the first place. The fact is science has proven stuff whether you believe it or not. Your belief makes no difference in whether something is true or not.
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Feb 15, 2011 13:46:41 GMT -5
Post by Oskanowski on Feb 15, 2011 13:46:41 GMT -5
This all goes right back to plausibility and probability. YOU CANNOT SAY IT WILL NOT HAPPEN unless it is simply your opinion, YOU CANNOT SAY IT WILL HAPPEN, without it being an opinion. Perception is what we are made of whether we like it or not we are all a consequence to all of us and in turn also the consequence of us. So we argue, debate, and state "facts" when in truth fact are based on the perceiver....even in science...no human being ever looks at the same tree the same way. I predict nothing about the end of the world and if it ends then so be it and if it doesnt then so be it. But I will not ever try to interject a "man made fact" into a world of observers who only see through one set of eyes..as I only see through mine. Actually despite the fact that I dont want to type your name out lol, the guy with the green text follows a patter of a universal truth then a man made one. But then again, when it does end, does it really matter if anyone predicted it or not? I'm sorry, but that's complete gibberish and complete bullpoop on top of that. I can say for a fact that the Eiffel tower will not fall on my head within the next 30 mins. How can I say this for a fact? I'm not in Paris. There is no physical way for me to get from the US to Paris in 30 mins. There is no physical way for the Eiffel Tower to get from Paris to the US in 30 mins. Therefore we can definitely say it's not going to happen. I can say that I am going to take a sip from my soda can while I'm typing this. I can say that because the can is right at my fingertips and it would be virtually impossible for anyone to stop me. Yes, we can say that Planet X will not hit us in 2011. We can say that there will not be a pole shift. We can say that solar flares will not envelope the Earth. How can we say this? Because in order for any or all of those things to happen, every single law of physics we know would have to be violated. Our physical world that has worked the same for billions of years would suddenly operate in a completely different way. It would be like waking up and discovering that you're now pooping out your mouth and you feed yourself by shoving food in your ears. I'm sorry, but that's not going to happen. How so? We've had pole shifts in the past, solar flares happen every single day but never get close enough to Earth mainly because The Sun only started getting " angry " as they were calling it in 2009 & Planet X can crash into us because it's actually real ( if you believe that ) & has been spotted on NASA's images from satellites in which they are blocked out with a square or simply removed ( which I've posted before ) & if you don't believe that's what they are, maybe it's spaceships? It's something they're removing so we don't see it. Obviously.
Oh wait, you said in 2011. Well yeah you're right there. The other two is possible. But mostly unlikely.
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Feb 15, 2011 16:31:16 GMT -5
Post by K5 on Feb 15, 2011 16:31:16 GMT -5
absolutely not, the idea is ludicrous.
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Feb 15, 2011 17:24:51 GMT -5
Post by The Mountain King on Feb 15, 2011 17:24:51 GMT -5
I've been actually studying this since summer, because it really intrigues me. I've pretty much come to a conclusion that life on earth will not end, nor will the human race, but there will be a change in the way we think and do things, sort of like the enlightenment or the great awakening, but on a global scale. And this could be a good, or bad change. But I'm sure there will be a higher suicide rate in December 2012.
That being said, I am still scared, even though I shouldn't be, and I'm sure I will get laughed at in 2012, but theres so much stuff that is pointing towards it, its hard to not wonder about it...
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Feb 15, 2011 17:34:43 GMT -5
Post by Kliquid on Feb 15, 2011 17:34:43 GMT -5
Your argument is beyond ridiculous and hard to comprehend in the first place. The fact is science has proven stuff whether you believe it or not. Your belief makes no difference in whether something is true or not. In fairness, science is always changing, so something being "proven" in that sense is still KIND OF in fluctuation. But your point is still correct. All we can go off of is the info. we have and that info. strongly points towards what you're saying.
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Feb 15, 2011 17:40:32 GMT -5
Post by MC2 on Feb 15, 2011 17:40:32 GMT -5
If the world ends, I'll give Oskanowski $400.
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Feb 15, 2011 17:50:31 GMT -5
Post by Oskanowski on Feb 15, 2011 17:50:31 GMT -5
Your argument is beyond ridiculous and hard to comprehend in the first place. The fact is science has proven stuff whether you believe it or not. Your belief makes no difference in whether something is true or not. In fairness, science is always changing, so something being "proven" in that sense is still KIND OF in fluctuation. But your point is still correct. All we can go off of is the info. we have and that info. strongly points towards what you're saying. No it don't, I've already pointed it out twice now ( with links ) and you two still are so far lost it's sad. Pole shifts happen, have happened and solar flares/solar storms happen. Both marked for 2012/2013. Will the world end? Who knows, nobody can sit and say it will or it won't because none of us are from the future, we're all making predictions while hating on people that make predictions. We can estimate that the chances of it happening are small, but it still could happen, just like the planet or whatever it is supposedly crashing into us in 2036 or whatever the year is, that now won't be doing so. NASA is so full of shit, they predict more than the Mayans. lol..If the world ends, I'll give Oskanowski $400. Why would you do that? I never said it was ending.
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