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Feb 15, 2011 18:05:22 GMT -5
Post by Kliquid on Feb 15, 2011 18:05:22 GMT -5
No it don't, I've already pointed it out twice now ( with links ) and you two still are so far lost it's sad. Pole shifts happen, have happened and solar flares/solar storms happen. Both marked for 2012/2013. Will the world end? Who knows, nobody can sit and say it will or it won't because none of us are from the future, we're all making predictions while hating on people that make predictions. We can estimate that the chances of it happening are small, but it still could happen, just like the planet or whatever it is supposedly crashing into us in 2036 or whatever the year is, that now won't be doing so. NASA is so full of poop, they predict more than the Mayans. lol.. Kid... I'm going to say this in the nicest way possible... But one of the links you posted CLEARLY said that the sun spots will not be as high as the ones we've had RECENTLY. Just because there will be "increased from normal" sunspots does not mean it will be significant. In fact, what you posted specifically says it won't be.
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Feb 15, 2011 18:12:56 GMT -5
Post by Oskanowski on Feb 15, 2011 18:12:56 GMT -5
No it don't, I've already pointed it out twice now ( with links ) and you two still are so far lost it's sad. Pole shifts happen, have happened and solar flares/solar storms happen. Both marked for 2012/2013. Will the world end? Who knows, nobody can sit and say it will or it won't because none of us are from the future, we're all making predictions while hating on people that make predictions. We can estimate that the chances of it happening are small, but it still could happen, just like the planet or whatever it is supposedly crashing into us in 2036 or whatever the year is, that now won't be doing so. NASA is so full of poop, they predict more than the Mayans. lol.. Kid... I'm going to say this in the nicest way possible... But one of the links you posted CLEARLY said that the sun spots will not be as high as the ones we've had RECENTLY. Just because there will be "increased from normal" sunspots does not mean it will be significant. In fact, what you posted specifically says it won't be. Kid...
Once again it's a prediction. They don't have any idea what the Sun will be doing in a year or two. Things change.
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Kid.....
You was reading the post from 2009, did you read the one from 2010 where NASA clearly warns that " solar flares from 'huge space storm' will cause devastation "
www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7819201/Nasa-warns-solar-flares-from-huge-space-storm-will-cause-devastation.html
Oh, btw.. Here's something from 2011, actually from today..
news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/15/sun-has-biggest-solar-flare-of-the-year/
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Feb 15, 2011 18:53:58 GMT -5
Post by Revvie® on Feb 15, 2011 18:53:58 GMT -5
I was told by a friend of mine(whose beliefs are based only in science) He said that an hypothesis should always be the intention to wittle down to the best possible answer we can come to. And to be able to state things as FACT is fraudulent by the structures of science. Science only says yes till it changes then it says yes again...every changing...always changing...always unknown. Yes I can say by a reasonable amount of data and assumptions based on a lot of views that the probability of the world ending is slim in the next coming years and by the ways they state, BUT I can never say that it is FACTUAL if science isnt looking just for one fact, but the fact of the fact of the fact and when it is an oddity then they relook at facts All I said was these were all opinions and to shove what you consider "truth" into a conversation is to say "by my views, and what I know, and what I have read and heard" that I believe the the probability is not there....but the plausibility is always there And seriously now were reaching for derogatory comments such as "kid"...well when the insults begin then the discussion comes to a halt and to fall to that sort of idealism of superiority over another only shows arrogance and not necessarily intelligence...in general...dont be rude
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Feb 15, 2011 19:04:33 GMT -5
Post by Kliquid on Feb 15, 2011 19:04:33 GMT -5
... Do you even realize how completely contradictory you're being within this post? You say that they "don't have any idea what the Sun will be doing in a year or two," then you post a link to an article where they talk about solar flares, as if that is evidence. Honestly, I believe you might have a serious mental handicap. YOU POSTED THE LINK. NOT ME. Don't bash me for pointing out how it completely goes against what you were trying to say. Maybe you should pay attention to the crapyou post.
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Feb 15, 2011 19:12:09 GMT -5
Post by Hulkamaniac on Feb 15, 2011 19:12:09 GMT -5
The last pole shift happened like 50 billion years ago. Even then it wasn't a dramatic, instantaneous, pole shift. The next one will not happen in our lifetime.
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Feb 15, 2011 19:34:50 GMT -5
Post by extreme on Feb 15, 2011 19:34:50 GMT -5
And seriously now were reaching for derogatory comments such as "kid"...well when the insults begin then the discussion comes to a halt and to fall to that sort of idealism of superiority over another only shows arrogance and not necessarily intelligence...in general...dont be rude You obviously haven't seen the old 2012 threads. It's pretty much inevitable that a Hulk/Kliquid/everyone else vs Oskanowski vs occasional crazy guy argument to happen. the funny thing is is that it's like the same posts for every thread.
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Feb 15, 2011 19:36:53 GMT -5
Post by Oskanowski on Feb 15, 2011 19:36:53 GMT -5
... Do you even realize how completely contradictory you're being within this post? You say that they "don't have any idea what the Sun will be doing in a year or two," then you post a link to an article where they talk about solar flares, as if that is evidence. Honestly, I believe you might have a serious mental handicap. YOU POSTED THE LINK. NOT ME. Don't bash me for pointing out how it completely goes against what you were trying to say. Maybe you should pay attention to the poop you post. Um, no I'm not? We don't know what the sun will be doing in a year or two, one link is talking about how strong the sun is currently which is the strongest it's ever been in a long time and will be doing something tonight, tonight isn't two years. Big difference.
The other link is talking about how the chances of a solar storm is possible in 2012/2013. I posted the link showing you this because you said the " info we had pointed to exactly what Hulk was saying, which was that none of it was going to happen. " When the facts show, they think it will. I'm talking about what they said, not what my opinion is.The last pole shift happened like 50 billion years ago. Even then it wasn't a dramatic, instantaneous, pole shift. The next one will not happen in our lifetime. ...We had a pole shift in 2001.science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast15feb_1/February 15, 2001 -- You can't tell by looking, but scientists say the Sun has just undergone an important change. Our star's magnetic field has flipped.
The Sun's magnetic north pole, which was in the northern hemisphere just a few months ago, now points south. It's a topsy-turvy situation, but not an unexpected one.
"This always happens around the time of solar maximum," says David Hathaway, a solar physicist at the Marshall Space Flight Center. "The magnetic poles exchange places at the peak of the sunspot cycle. In fact, it's a good indication that Solar Max is really here."
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Feb 15, 2011 19:38:19 GMT -5
Post by Kliquid on Feb 15, 2011 19:38:19 GMT -5
YOU POSTED LINKS TO ARTICLES THAT "PREDICT" WHAT THE SUN WILL DO!! Oh my god. ing wow.
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Feb 15, 2011 19:41:31 GMT -5
Post by Oskanowski on Feb 15, 2011 19:41:31 GMT -5
YOU POSTED LINKS TO ARTICLES THAT "PREDICT" WHAT THE SUN WILL DO!! Oh my god. ing wow. .. yes... & you said the info we had shows that nothing will happen.. The info we have shows that something will happen, they predict that it will. Once again, I'm talking about the info they have that you said they don't. Sure I think that they shouldn't be predicting that far ahead and that it's pointless, but it's still down as info they're going by.
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Feb 15, 2011 19:55:52 GMT -5
Post by pero on Feb 15, 2011 19:55:52 GMT -5
Such a debatable topic. I'm not really sure about this, you never know. I guess we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
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Feb 15, 2011 20:00:41 GMT -5
Post by Kliquid on Feb 15, 2011 20:00:41 GMT -5
You specifically said...
And then you went on to post articles with predictions about what the sun will be doing. So yes, you are being hypocritical.
Moving along...
The link you posted was about the SUN'S poles shifting, which happens significantly more often than the Earth's. It clearly says that the last time the Earth's poles shifted was 740,000 years ago and that there is no evidence supporting that a shift is coming any time soon.
Another link you posted warning about "huge devastation" was talking about FINANCIAL DEVASTATION for countries with weak power grids if you actually read the article. It says nothing about the Earth ceasing to exist in any way, shape, or form.
Last, the link about the sun having its "biggest flare of the year" is just that. The biggest flare of the YEAR. This will likely be broken by the end of the year. Not surprising. Not even really news-worthy.
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Feb 15, 2011 20:07:31 GMT -5
Post by Oskanowski on Feb 15, 2011 20:07:31 GMT -5
You specifically said... And then you went on to post articles with predictions about what the sun will be doing. So yes, you are being hypocritical. Moving along... The link you posted was about the SUN'S poles shifting, which happens significantly more often than the Earth's. It clearly says that the last time the Earth's poles shifted was 740,000 years ago and that there is no evidence supporting that a shift is coming any time soon. Another link you posted warning about "huge devastation" was talking about FINANCIAL DEVASTATION for countries with weak power grids if you actually read the article. It says nothing about the Earth ceasing to exist in any way, shape, or form. Last, the link about the sun having its "biggest flare of the year" is just that. The biggest flare of the YEAR. This will likely be broken by the end of the year. Not surprising. Not even really news-worthy. I just told you why I posted the links, to basically prove you two wrong where you said that we have no info. WE DO HAVE INFO, it's predictions but since you and Hulk enjoy making your own predictions, you two should enjoy those.
Don't matter, it's still a polar shift & it's still a solar storm... lol.. You two said we don't have any info and we do.. That's simply all. Me, you and Hulk all agree that nothing probably will happen, I'm just simply pointing out that we do have info and that they do think somethings will happen in 2012 or 2013.
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Feb 15, 2011 20:16:05 GMT -5
Post by lazyboy98 on Feb 15, 2011 20:16:05 GMT -5
not true
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Feb 15, 2011 20:16:54 GMT -5
Post by lazyboy98 on Feb 15, 2011 20:16:54 GMT -5
no, not true
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Feb 15, 2011 21:22:28 GMT -5
Post by Hulkamaniac on Feb 15, 2011 21:22:28 GMT -5
A polar shift on the Earth hasn't happened in recorded history. Just saying. And the last time we had "disastrous pole shift" on the Sun was in 2001 and what happened? Nothing. Just saying.
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Feb 15, 2011 21:42:07 GMT -5
Post by Random Weddle on Feb 15, 2011 21:42:07 GMT -5
Nope
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