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Post by sean™ on Feb 25, 2011 10:59:33 GMT -5
It's taken me a few years to figure it out, but I refuse to talk politics on this board. Too many know-it-alls and elitists trying to tear down what other people post just because they disagree.
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Post by Kliquid on Feb 25, 2011 11:09:20 GMT -5
It's taken me a few years to figure it out, but I refuse to talk politics on this board. Too many know-it-alls and elitists trying to tear down what other people post just because they disagree. People are always going to feel they are "right" one way or another, particularly about politics. I guess my whole thing is that, if you're going to make a claim, it should at least be factually correct. There are some things that can be proven one way or another, while others are pure speculation. I'm OK with people speculating, but saying things that are completely proven to be false... Don't like it.
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Post by slappy on Feb 25, 2011 11:11:48 GMT -5
He pledged in the campaign to increase troop size in Afghanistan and pull out of Iraq. Draw down for Afghanistan is supposed to start this summer. Yeah, he wanted to get rid of Bush's version of the Patriot Act and put in one that he felt wouldn't harm civil liberties as much. He wanted one, just not Bush's. People gave people false hope. Thinking that they'd live rent free, get a free car, free gas, free food, etc. That's on them. He didn't promise any of that. It's not like Obama came out and said that he was not going to fix everyone's problems. He painted himself (or allowed others to do so) as a a messiah. People were running around thinking that if they elected him all of a sudden gas would be $1 a gallon and employers would be tossing six figure job offers at them. The Obama campaign did absolutely nothing to combat that. They shouldn't have to respond every time someone claimed that. Just like they don't have to respond every time someone calls him Muslim or says he wasn't born here.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Feb 25, 2011 13:28:39 GMT -5
It's not like Obama came out and said that he was not going to fix everyone's problems. He painted himself (or allowed others to do so) as a a messiah. People were running around thinking that if they elected him all of a sudden gas would be $1 a gallon and employers would be tossing six figure job offers at them. The Obama campaign did absolutely nothing to combat that. They shouldn't have to respond every time someone claimed that. Just like they don't have to respond every time someone calls him Muslim or says he wasn't born here. Yes, but they did respond to rumors that he's a Muslim and they did respond to people claiming he wasn't born in Hawaii. They posted responses on their campaign web site and any time some moron brought it up, they just pointed them there or made it clear that the information was there. They never bothered to respond to people claiming that Obama would fill up their car for free or give them a place to live that they wouldn't have to work for. That was good publicity so they didn't bother even though it was completely false.
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Post by slappy on Feb 25, 2011 13:31:36 GMT -5
They shouldn't have to respond every time someone claimed that. Just like they don't have to respond every time someone calls him Muslim or says he wasn't born here. Yes, but they did respond to rumors that he's a Muslim and they did respond to people claiming he wasn't born in Hawaii. They posted responses on their campaign web site and any time some moron brought it up, they just pointed them there or made it clear that the information was there. They never bothered to respond to people claiming that Obama would fill up their car for free or give them a place to live that they wouldn't have to work for. That was good publicity so they didn't bother even though it was completely false. But they were morons to even think that could possibly happen. Also, those people were not as vocal and didn't seem as large part of the country as those who claimed he was Muslim and/or not born here.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Feb 25, 2011 13:33:23 GMT -5
Yes they were morons and they went out to the polls in droves and elected the guy. What does that tell you about our populace?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2011 13:43:39 GMT -5
absolutly not, i didnt vote for him the first time and i wouldnt vote for him now. he has done aboslutly nothing except spend money
he has spent more money than all the other presidents combind.
we need a hard republican back in the white house to straighten all this crapout
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Post by slappy on Feb 25, 2011 13:45:22 GMT -5
absolutly not, i didnt vote for him the first time and i wouldnt vote for him now. he has done aboslutly nothing except spend money he has spent more money than all the other presidents combind. we need a hard republican back in the white house to straighten all this poop out And which Republican would you want in there? And it would be pretty hard to stop all spending. And according to your profile, you didn't vote for him because you weren't old enough to have voted anyways.
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Post by spamdfms101 on Feb 25, 2011 13:49:02 GMT -5
I want Ron Paul or Mitt Romney as president, so no, I wont be voting for him. I didn't think you were old enough to vote anyways. I wasnt last election. But I still followed it and liked those two the best. I also liked Huckabee. I didnt like either Palin or Mccain though. Glad Obama beat them that way we get someone better in 4 years instead of waiting 8.
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Post by slappy on Feb 25, 2011 13:55:11 GMT -5
I didn't think you were old enough to vote anyways. I wasnt last election. But I still followed it and liked those two the best. I also liked Huckabee. I didnt like either Palin or Mccain though. Glad Obama beat them that way we get someone better in 4 years instead of waiting 8. I didn't think you would be old enough next election either. Huckabee while likable is a joke. There is no Republican out there who can beat Obama. So we will have to suffer through many more years of Obama.
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Post by ✖ AJ on Feb 25, 2011 13:57:45 GMT -5
Depends who he is running against. But more than likely... no.
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Post by fallbrawl on Feb 25, 2011 14:02:42 GMT -5
no
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Post by slappy on Feb 25, 2011 14:04:05 GMT -5
Can this be moved to the banter board because it seems all that is going to happen is people spamming with either yes or no replies and no reason given as to either response.
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Post by T R W on Feb 25, 2011 14:09:17 GMT -5
Doesn't need to be moved just because you are mad people won't explain their opinion so you can argue with them about it. Honestly, the OP just asked yes or no. Some people have given more thorough answers, others haven't. It doesn't make it any less meaningul than half of the other threads in the Lounge. It's not that big of a deal that everyone doesn't take politics as serious as you.
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Post by slappy on Feb 25, 2011 14:26:53 GMT -5
Doesn't need to be moved just because you are mad people won't explain their opinion so you can argue with them about it. Honestly, the OP just asked yes or no. Some people have given more thorough answers, others haven't. It doesn't make it any less meaningul than half of the other threads in the Lounge. It's not that big of a deal that everyone doesn't take politics as serious as you. So it is ok to just answer threads 'yes' or 'no' and I won't be punished for it? Maybe the standards need to be raised so that there are not many threads where you can just give one or two worded answers. I obviously know it won't be moved, I'm just saying how ridiculous it is to have a thread filled with one worded answers.
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Post by Captain d00m - Mr. 3000 on Feb 25, 2011 14:30:45 GMT -5
Depends on who he runs against, but yeah, probably. Sure, hes increased our national debt, and hasnt done alot of things he said he would, but hes doing alot better, and hell do alot better than any Republican could. And this is coming from a Republican. What does that tell you about the state of my party? See sig. I do kinda think Paul could change America, but do you really think Congress is going to work with him? It's taken me a few years to figure it out, but I refuse to talk politics on this board. Too many know-it-alls and elitists trying to tear down what other people post just because they disagree. I see it the other way. Theres a few of people on here who know what their talking about. The rest are either trolls, dumb, or lean too far on the political spectrum to have a decent conversation. I state my general opinions, but I never go into the details of my beliefs.
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Post by Kliquid on Feb 25, 2011 15:26:29 GMT -5
I do kinda think Paul could change America, but do you really think Congress is going to work with him? I'd rather see him fight the good fight against 'em than watch Obama create executive orders that bypass them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2011 17:45:54 GMT -5
absolutly not, i didnt vote for him the first time and i wouldnt vote for him now. he has done aboslutly nothing except spend money he has spent more money than all the other presidents combind. we need a hard republican back in the white house to straighten all this poop out And which Republican would you want in there? And it would be pretty hard to stop all spending. And according to your profile, you didn't vote for him because you weren't old enough to have voted anyways. damn u got me,tho i did volunteer at the scott county republican headquarters havnt seen a good candidate yet, tho i like ron paul about spending im sure we dont need to spend money helping dominos make better pizza,monkey smoke crack and studying fruit fly brains
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Post by slappy on Feb 25, 2011 19:22:33 GMT -5
And which Republican would you want in there? And it would be pretty hard to stop all spending. And according to your profile, you didn't vote for him because you weren't old enough to have voted anyways. damn u got me,tho i did volunteer at the scott county republican headquarters havnt seen a good candidate yet, tho i like ron paul about spending im sure we dont need to spend money helping dominos make better pizza,monkey smoke crack and studying fruit fly brains Well only two, I believe have actually entered the race. An owner of some pizza shop and some guy who believes Obama wasn't born here. No credible candidate has announced yet. I agree we don't need to spend money on Dominos or crack monkeys. We could learn things through science, so I fully support funding science when it could lead to big things. I'm not sure what will come from crack smoking monkeys though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2011 19:22:46 GMT -5
I wasnt last election. But I still followed it and liked those two the best. I also liked Huckabee. I didnt like either Palin or Mccain though. Glad Obama beat them that way we get someone better in 4 years instead of waiting 8. I didn't think you would be old enough next election either. Huckabee while likable is a joke. There is no Republican out there who can beat Obama. So we will have to suffer through many more years of Obama. While I get heated in a discussion of politics with you, at least you have an argument (unlike most folks in this thread). The one Conservative that would've beaten Obama was Mitt Romney. When the Republican party chose their side, Obama suddenly inherited a piss load of voters. McCain was completely the wrong choice, as RINOs are not needed in office. I hope Romney goes up for the next election. Most Republicans (& Conservatives) realized that they had the wrong choice, only after it was too late. Would I vote for Ron Paul? Over any Liberal, any day.
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