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Post by doogle on Mar 4, 2011 14:26:07 GMT -5
Blaming the falling economy on George W. Bush or Barack Obama is a common mistake that uneducated people make. I'm not blaming it on anyone...I'm questioning the thousands of people and talking heads who think Obama has destroyed the economy when it's been getting destroyed for the past 10 years...it's mind boggling.
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Post by Kliquid on Mar 4, 2011 14:29:08 GMT -5
It's been being destroyed for a lot longer than 10 years.
Everyone wants to act like Clinton was some amazing President who could do no wrong (outside of the sex scandal). That wasn't the case.
Was the economy doing fairly well while he was in office? Yes. But many of the problems that have created our financial issues began under Clinton (ex: Derivatives).
Clinton was by far the best President of my lifetime, but that's not saying much.
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Post by doogle on Mar 4, 2011 14:29:31 GMT -5
And it's true...politics are just like sports now..they don't really hate each other it's the "fans"/"supporters" that extend the hatred...they could care less as long as they're getting paid
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Post by doogle on Mar 4, 2011 14:33:52 GMT -5
It's been being destroyed for a lot longer than 10 years. Everyone wants to act like Clinton was some amazing President who could do no wrong (outside of the sex scandal). That wasn't the case. Was the economy doing fairly well while he was in office? Yes. But many of the problems that have created our financial issues began under Clinton (ex: Derivatives). Clinton was by far the best President of my lifetime, but that's not saying much. Clinton only put a band-aid on the head wound and said all the right things...Reaganomics also destroyed the economy...we go through this cycle seemingly every 20 years... Personally I think globalization crippled the value of the dollar.
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Post by Kliquid on Mar 4, 2011 14:40:02 GMT -5
Globalization, tremendous inflation, lobbyists, bailouts, etc.
Those things are destroying our economy. NOT Obama. NOT Bush.
That said, the Presidents are absolutely to blame as well, for allowing this crapto continue.
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Post by TheNinthCloud on Mar 4, 2011 20:00:01 GMT -5
No. Not that he's been bad, but he's not been really good either.
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 5, 2011 9:21:36 GMT -5
This country is doing what every democratic form of government does, its going to collapse in on itself. We will end up in a socialist or more so a dictatorship before its over. Chaos might ensue before it but for democracy to survive, we have to relive the past.
Revolution, New Government, Corruption, Failing Government, Chaos, start to a new type of Gov, then Revolution. Granted this is simply put and I definitely could go into examples if this is needed and further explanation if anyone feels my idea is ludicrous.
So for me to say im disappointed in this country, as a whole, it has survived with a democratic(or at least as close as we come to one) but just like every form of government, it has its downsides after while. For me to blame a president or something to that extent for what was historically bound to happen. I just cant bring myself to it. haha
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Post by slappy on Mar 5, 2011 16:41:58 GMT -5
But we live in a Republic not a Democracy.
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 5, 2011 18:41:16 GMT -5
But we live in a Republic not a Democracy. I believe it was actually deemed a DEMOCRATIC Republic. but i might be wrong.... ;D
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Post by slappy on Mar 5, 2011 18:43:05 GMT -5
But we live in a Republic not a Democracy. I believe it was actually deemed a DEMOCRATIC Republic. but i might be wrong.... ;D I believe we are a Constitutional Republic.
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 5, 2011 18:51:48 GMT -5
I believe it was actually deemed a DEMOCRATIC Republic. but i might be wrong.... ;D I believe we are a Constitutional Republic. Fair enough lol Stupid social studies teacher lol oh well then ignore everything I said or dont lol whatever
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Post by slappy on Mar 5, 2011 19:02:31 GMT -5
I believe we are a Constitutional Republic. Fair enough lol Stupid social studies teacher lol oh well then ignore everything I said or dont lol whatever I looked it up, we can be considered either a Democratic Republic or a Constitutional Republic.
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Post by Kliquid on Mar 5, 2011 19:23:42 GMT -5
I looked it up, we can be considered either a Democratic Republic or a Constitutional Republic. Neither are very accurate, though, considering recent events.
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Post by TheXtremisT on Mar 6, 2011 8:59:14 GMT -5
I am without a shadow of a doubt going to re-elect Obama
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Post by WCWA Online on Mar 6, 2011 23:12:57 GMT -5
no
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Post by jwsowner on Mar 7, 2011 18:43:43 GMT -5
2 words: Donald Trump.
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Post by motleyspoisongun on Mar 9, 2011 18:28:34 GMT -5
NO
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