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Post by Sandy on Mar 9, 2011 0:30:58 GMT -5
can someone please quote what Rivera OR his camp said about Bsipings family?
(besides quoting Bisping saying Rivera was disresctful...)
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Post by SteveHulk on Mar 9, 2011 2:00:46 GMT -5
can someone please quote what Rivera OR his camp said about Bsipings family? (besides quoting Bisping saying Rivera was disresctful...) Well, we can't... (see page 1 again). Rivera and his camp obviously aren't going to say these things publicly... Bisping did mention on more than one occasion though that his son was getting picked on at school because of all those videos, so that only added fuel to the fire. But you only have to look at Bisping's whole demeanour over that weekend to realize that he was incredibly hurt/offended by what was being said and that it was more than just "trash talk"... I've never seen him like that. |
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Post by Kliquid on Mar 9, 2011 2:08:24 GMT -5
Bisping's son getting picked on for something Rivera said about MICHAEL Bisping is completely different than Rivera "saying things about his family."
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Post by 1992 on Mar 9, 2011 3:40:56 GMT -5
Bisping did mention on more than one occasion though that his son was getting picked on at school because of all those videos "Haha your dad's a gatekeeper." I'm sorry I had to. I am in fact a Bisping fan and have been for years so calm down. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Mar 9, 2011 4:19:02 GMT -5
Bisping's son getting picked on for something Rivera said about MICHAEL Bisping is completely different than Rivera "saying things about his family." For sure (...we don't really know what was said behind closed doors) - but the very fact that your son is getting picked on because someone's making stupid (and unecessary) videos, would make you pretty upset with the guy(!). I'd be down-right furious. I'm sorry I had to. I am in fact a Bisping fan and have been for years so calm down. Ah... you see? There are people outside the UK who actually think Bisping's OK, lol... Honestly guys, I really don't think he's the "nasty piece of work" some of you are painting him out to be - I know he can be a bit of a dick and sometimes get too carried away, but he's only human. "Let he who is without sin..." and all that.  |
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Post by Sandy on Mar 9, 2011 4:26:59 GMT -5
haha....
if Anderson Silva were to spit in someones corner and INTENTIONALLY knee someone we would never hear the end of it....
all I am saying is take all the things Bisping has said and all of his antics and pretend another fighter did them...any fighter....would you Bisping fans be defending them as much?
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Post by SteveHulk on Mar 9, 2011 20:33:01 GMT -5
if Anderson Silva were to spit in someones corner and INTENTIONALLY knee someone we would never hear the end of it.... No - because Silva is the champion and "figurehead" of the division, not a fringe contender. In this case, with all the bad blood on both sides, then I would feel exactly the same. I think the fighter (ie. Bisping) should be fined for the knee incident (or why not give it to the Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund?) and warned/reprimanded about the spitting. And what's Bisping said that has been so bad/offended you so much...? |
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Post by Sandy on Mar 9, 2011 21:36:50 GMT -5
haha....
so what Henderson did is FAR WORSE than what Bisping did?
haha...f***ing hypocrite. There is no reasoning with you.
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Post by SteveHulk on Mar 9, 2011 23:01:11 GMT -5
so what Henderson did is FAR WORSE than what Bisping did? The fact that Henderson admitted afterwards that he knew Bisping was out but thought he'd throw another one while he was unconscious "to shut him up" to me is worse, yes. But there was hardly a peep from the US press etc. after the fight - if it had been the other way around, Bisping would have been torn to shreads. Well, I've tried to present my points in a calm and reasonable manner... I'm sorry you can't do the same.  |
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Post by Sonnen on Mar 10, 2011 11:29:19 GMT -5
haha.... so what Henderson did is FAR WORSE than what Bisping did? haha...f***ing hypocrite. There is no reasoning with you. Yes it is far worse, also you're a moron, grow up. |
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Post by 1992 on Mar 10, 2011 14:46:35 GMT -5
Some of my favorite fighters are dicks.
The Diaz Brothers(who get alot of love on here)
Josh Koscheck(who needs no introduction, the UFC's greatest heel of all time)
Chael Sonnen(I've REALLY wound down my fandom for Sonnen but still look forward to his next fight, just out of pure curiosity, it's practically a freak show at this point)
BJ Penn(who use to be completely up his own ass. Penn has been my favorite for from the time I first started watching MMA and there's no denying he USE to be a little prick)
And Michael Bisping.
I'm sure this will piss alot of people off but I do feel Bisping does catch extra heat. And I'm not from Liverpool or Canterbury, I'm from Houston, Texas. What he did was wrong, it was nasty and he needs to be reprimanded for it. And I'm sure Dana White's popped him on the wrist by now over it, but certainly worse things have happened.
Bisping is the the UFC what The Great Khali is to the WWE, he's certainly not the best talent on the roster, but he has PLENTY of drawing power for his home country. And though he hasn't "revolutionized" the sport or anything close to that, he's certainly a marketable and valuable enough fighter.
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Post by Sonnen on Mar 10, 2011 14:53:12 GMT -5
^ Chael Sonnen is the best heel character of all time in MMA. Koscheck is a close second. BTW, they are also some of my favorite fighters, nice dick picks.  |
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Mar 11, 2011 23:51:17 GMT -5
haha.... so what Henderson did is FAR WORSE than what Bisping did? haha...f***ing hypocrite. There is no reasoning with you. Yes, it was. Henderson intentionally drove his forearm into the face of an UNCONCIOUS, defenceless opponent, and then bragged about it afterwards. That disgraceful and unprofessional act makes Henderson a bigger douchebag than Bisping ever will be, in my eyes. Kliq - we're not defending the knee to the head... that was just plain heat-of-the-moment wrong. But I do think the bad-blood/spitting was very understandable given all the BS Rivera and his camp had been saying. At the end of the day, we know Bisping's a classless douchebag, but he's our classless douchebag - it's OK for you (US) guys to single him out... you've got loads of great guys to cheer/support. But in the UK, we have very few - and as much of a dickhead he may be, Bisping is one of the few "decent" UK fighters we have. The impact he's had in the UK is incredible... for all the crap he's said or done, he has done wonders for MMA in this country and bringing the UFC here - that's why he gets so much support from the Brits. Nothing , nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing , nothing, nothing , nothing, nothing , nothing, nothing gives anybody the right to spit on another human. I feel it is really the lowest act of the low. Bisping gets the support from the "Brits" because he is. He's done nothing to promote MMA over here and to say he has is just a total lie. A friend of mine tried to organise for him to appear at a UFC After party his only care was how big his fee was and how long he would have to be there for . That has NOTHING to do with promoting the UFC. |
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Post by PrideFcF on Mar 12, 2011 4:07:13 GMT -5
Jesus, this Bisping s*it is getting old.
There's no 2 ways around it. If you even remotely condone what Bisping did, you need to shut the f*ck up about what Hendo did, and vice versa. There's no "yea, but" stuff in all of this. Both of them did something stupid, end of story.
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Post by Sonnen on Mar 12, 2011 8:46:48 GMT -5
Jesus, this Bisping s*it is getting old. There's no 2 ways around it. If you even remotely condone what Bisping did, you need to shut the f*ck up about what Hendo did, and vice versa. There's no "yea, but" stuff in all of this. Both of them did something stupid, end of story. Yea and if you read people have said they don't approve of both actions. But people can't help that Rivera had what was coming. Doesn't mean with approve, so how about you shut the  up. |
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Post by PrideFcF on Mar 12, 2011 9:44:23 GMT -5
Jesus, this Bisping s*it is getting old. There's no 2 ways around it. If you even remotely condone what Bisping did, you need to shut the f*ck up about what Hendo did, and vice versa. There's no "yea, but" stuff in all of this. Both of them did something stupid, end of story. Yea and if you read people have said they don't approve of both actions. But people can't help that Rivera had what was coming. Doesn't mean with approve, so how about you shut the up. Your eagerness to jump in on your white horse, when I haven't directly attacked anyone, makes me think you should take your own advice and shut the up yourself. And yet again, you have the "yea,but" nonsense. "I don't approve of their actions....but Rivera had it coming." This is the type of redundant mindset that made me post what I did. There is no "yea,but" in this. If you don't condone any of it, great. But there are people who I know for a fact had no real issue with what Hendo did, but are really fired up over Bisping now. And on the flip side, there are people who were irate over what Hendo did, but have been a bit passe about what Bisping has done. It's an annoying cycle that is getting pointless with all the arguing. Separately the incidents are worth some debate. But discussing them in the same thread quickly becomes a childish "well how bout what he did?!" comparison battle. In the end, I just wish people would get over the Bisping incident. It was wrong, but craphappens. Rivera is ok and he'll fight again. And I'm sure if Bisping messes up again, he'll be punished accordingly. |
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Post by Sonnen on Mar 12, 2011 10:13:53 GMT -5
Your issue was that people was condoning the actions of one, and not the other. I don't condone either one of them, and I'd be surprised if any one does. And you can say there isn't any "yea but" but there obviously is in all this or people wouldn't say it, karma is a bitch. It was a similar situation, there is reason to bring it up.
Hendo did it to shut Bisping up.
Bisping did it to shut Rivera up.
And at the end of the day mate, the same person was involved it's obviously going to be dragged in to the same discussion, and honestly why not?, you're the only one who seems to have an issue with it being discussed. If you wish people would get over the incident and it come to an end, then don't be apart of it and post in the thread. It's not effecting your life that much is it? - Just sayin'
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Post by PrideFcF on Mar 12, 2011 14:03:25 GMT -5
I'm not campaigning for the thread to get locked, so the whole "don't like it, don't post" mentality doesn't apply. I contributed my opinion just like everyone else. Expressing a desire for the arguing to end is simply an open statement, not an order.
And considering I'm not attacking anyone, the "It's not effecting your life that much is it?" part makes no sense. Am I getting out of line over anything in the thread? Not at all, outside of me saying "f*ck" in my first post, but that wasn't really directed at anyone specific. Two simple posts aimed at some of the odd comments here is hardly me obsessing over anything. Just because my post goes against the grain a little, it doesn't mean I'm enraged over here.
My real issue is some of the hypocritical behavior that has exploded from the moment Bisping won the fight. Several posters were celebrating the illegal knee when it happened, yet suddenly changed their tune drastically when it became a heated debate. That's where all the "yea, but" stuff started popping up. And like I said, plenty of people loved the Hendo KO, but are pretty pissed about what Bisping did all of a sudden. And as fair as it is to compare the two incidents, I've noticed some instances where the comparison is only there to mask more biased thoughts.
Despite what I said in my initial post, I'm not literally telling anyone on here to shut up about the issue. I just wish some people would see just how silly some of this arguing has become.
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Post by sandmanecw on Mar 13, 2011 18:25:02 GMT -5
Rivera never said anything about his family, just about Bisping himself. Trash-talk happens all the time. Remember the time Bisping really trashed a fighter?...  i always lol when i see hendo slip away from mario |
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