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Post by threehgame on Feb 28, 2011 8:47:12 GMT -5
It is amazing to me how Brits fail to see how the UFC is stacking things to keep Bisping relevant. His TUF team had far more talent than Henderson's so when they won the Brits took it to mean they were better at MMA. Then Bisping gets KO'd and sent back down to the middle of the weight division. Since than he has fought guys that were either mid-tier fighters or shells of their former glory. Aside from Silva he has beaten them all. If Bisping doesn't fight a top tier 185er soon (Nate, Sonnen, Belfort, Okami) and win he stands to be seen as a marketing gimmick.
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Post by Sonnen on Feb 28, 2011 10:25:34 GMT -5
It is amazing to me how Brits fail to see how the UFC is stacking things to keep Bisping relevant. His TUF team had far more talent than Henderson's so when they won the Brits took it to mean they were better at MMA. Then Bisping gets KO'd and sent back down to the middle of the weight division. Since than he has fought guys that were either mid-tier fighters or shells of their former glory. Aside from Silva he has beaten them all. If Bisping doesn't fight a top tier 185er soon (Nate, Sonnen, Belfort, Okami) and win he stands to be seen as a marketing gimmick. This being the few Brits you've spoke to online? Don't group us all together, I'm a Bisping fan, no doubt, I support my fellow Brit' as do others, but I am not blinded to what you're saying, he does need to beat a top name soon, no doubt.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Feb 28, 2011 14:58:14 GMT -5
And now all the Shertard, Bisping haters (the majority of which are loud-mouth Yanks) are out in force, writing off Bisping before the fight has even been announced. I swear you can actually lower your IQ by reading those forums.
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Post by SteveHulk on Feb 28, 2011 15:52:22 GMT -5
It is amazing to me how Brits fail to see how the UFC is stacking things to keep Bisping relevant. His TUF team had far more talent than Henderson's so when they won the Brits took it to mean they were better at MMA. Then Bisping gets KO'd and sent back down to the middle of the weight division. Since than he has fought guys that were either mid-tier fighters or shells of their former glory. Aside from Silva he has beaten them all. If Bisping doesn't fight a top tier 185er soon (Nate, Sonnen, Belfort, Okami) and win he stands to be seen as a marketing gimmick. We all know he's beaten average competition and will have to fight/beat a top contender eventually... I don't think he'd beat any of the guys you mention (except maybe Belfort) but support him because he is one of the few Brits in the UFC and has done a LOT for MMA in this country. And while he has said/done some stupid things (ie. this weekend), I don't think he's the "antichrist" a lot make him out to be.
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Post by Sonnen on Feb 28, 2011 18:02:06 GMT -5
It is amazing to me how Brits fail to see how the UFC is stacking things to keep Bisping relevant. His TUF team had far more talent than Henderson's so when they won the Brits took it to mean they were better at MMA. Then Bisping gets KO'd and sent back down to the middle of the weight division. Since than he has fought guys that were either mid-tier fighters or shells of their former glory. Aside from Silva he has beaten them all. If Bisping doesn't fight a top tier 185er soon (Nate, Sonnen, Belfort, Okami) and win he stands to be seen as a marketing gimmick. We all know he's beaten average competition and will have to fight/beat a top contender eventually... I don't think he'd beat any of the guys you mention (except maybe Belfort) but support him because he is one of the few Brits in the UFC and has done a LOT for MMA in this country. And while he has said/done some stupid things (ie. this weekend), I don't think he's the "antichrist" a lot make him out to be. Steve mate, I don't think I've ever come across a post of yours I disagree with, good job, couldn't of put it any better.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2011 19:06:53 GMT -5
That would be good, but I'd prefer to see Bisping VS Sonnen, with an emphasis on the ground game for Sonnen against Bisping's Jiu-Jitsu.
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Post by Bartman on Feb 28, 2011 19:36:58 GMT -5
Not a Bisping hater, but not exactly a fan. He looks great against lackluster competition, but the guy has lost to any decent opponent he's faced. Belfort or Sonnen will be no different.
don't get me wrong though, he's a great face for MMA in the UK, and an even better gatekeeper for the Middleweight division. I salute you Michael Bisping.
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Post by Mr. Orange on Mar 1, 2011 0:55:18 GMT -5
Apparently, Chael Sonnen sent this to Joe Silva and MMAWEEKLY got their hands on it.
To: Joe Silva, Matchmaker Extraordinaire, Ultimate Fighting Championship Re: Spitsbing & his tainted victory
Joe:
If you get a chance to talk with him, please mention to your idiot-in-residence Michael Spitsbing it’ll be a little tougher to knee ME in the head when I’m charging at him like a runaway train and mincing him through the fence like a boiled potato, should we ever have the pleasure of each other’s company for a few (VERY few) moments in the Octagon.
Oh; and I’d suggest to him being a little careful about spitting on any of MY cornermen, since any one of them can beat him up as badly as I can. Thanks ever so much. Hope all is well.
-Chael Sonnen -----------------
I. want. this. fight. If Bisping gets so upset over Rivera, Chael is going to rip him a new one.
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Post by Kliquid on Mar 1, 2011 19:00:16 GMT -5
LMFAO @ only the UK people defending Bisping.
Classic.
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Post by Sonnen on Mar 2, 2011 8:26:38 GMT -5
LMFAO @ only the UK people defending Bisping. Classic. LMFAO @ Kliquid not reading what the UK people actually posted in response about Bisping Classic.
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Post by SteveHulk on Mar 2, 2011 18:28:45 GMT -5
LMFAO @ only the UK people defending Bisping. Classic. ...we're not "defending" what Bisping did - but at the same time, we don't feel much sympathy toward Rivera and his camp either. If you invite sharks for dinner, don't be surprised if they turn around and eat some of the guests... And I'm LMFAO that it's Chael "I've never done anything wrong in my life, 'guvnor" Sonnen calling Bisping an idiot...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2011 6:21:10 GMT -5
Coming from a Bisping fan he should have been cut. He's far to marketable for the UFC however, i would have more sympathy for what Paul Daly did after his fight with Koscheck than Bispings actions last weekend.
Scum.
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Post by inggasson on Mar 6, 2011 14:55:18 GMT -5
Apparently, Chael Sonnen sent this to Joe Silva and MMAWEEKLY got their hands on it. To: Joe Silva, Matchmaker Extraordinaire, Ultimate Fighting Championship Re: Spitsbing & his tainted victory Joe: If you get a chance to talk with him, please mention to your idiot-in-residence Michael Spitsbing it’ll be a little tougher to knee ME in the head when I’m charging at him like a runaway train and mincing him through the fence like a boiled potato, should we ever have the pleasure of each other’s company for a few (VERY few) moments in the Octagon. Oh; and I’d suggest to him being a little careful about spitting on any of MY cornermen, since any one of them can beat him up as badly as I can. Thanks ever so much. Hope all is well. -Chael Sonnen ----------------- I. want. this. fight. If Bisping gets so upset over Rivera, Chael is going to rip him a new one. Chael lost any hope of anyone giving a flying f**k about him when he decided to roid himself up to the eyeballs. Fail.
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Post by Kliquid on Mar 7, 2011 12:33:04 GMT -5
LMFAO @ only the UK people defending Bisping. Classic. LMFAO @ Kliquid not reading what the UK people actually posted in response about Bisping Classic. No, I read what was said, and it was completely ridiculous. "It was kind of understandable." Completely absurd. I'm sorry that your country's best fighter is MAYBE a top-10 fighter, that he's a completely classless douchebag, that he has to cheat to beat a guy who's barely in the top-25, and that he has never beat anyone in the top-10. His best win against a top fighter came in a TERRIBLE decision over Matt Hamill. There's a reason that many, MANY fighters have called him out for being a dickhead, including Dan Henderson. There's a reason that Dana White came right out and said that Bisping is in trouble and that he will need to have a sit-down meeting with him... And that reason is because he has no class, he takes cheap shots, and he's just not that good. But yeah, you guys go ahead and keep defending him.
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Post by SteveHulk on Mar 7, 2011 18:55:54 GMT -5
Kliq - we're not defending the knee to the head... that was just plain heat-of-the-moment wrong. But I do think the bad-blood/spitting was very understandable given all the BS Rivera and his camp had been saying. At the end of the day, we know Bisping's a classless douchebag, but he's our classless douchebag - it's OK for you (US) guys to single him out... you've got loads of great guys to cheer/support. But in the UK, we have very few - and as much of a dickhead he may be, Bisping is one of the few "decent" UK fighters we have. The impact he's had in the UK is incredible... for all the crap he's said or done, he has done wonders for MMA in this country and bringing the UFC here - that's why he gets so much support from the Brits.
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Post by Kliquid on Mar 7, 2011 19:06:31 GMT -5
The difference is, I don't cheer for fighters based on whether they're from America or not. Some of my favorite fighters aren't even from America.
I get that you guys want to cheer for your home-country fighter but you don't HAVE to support someone who spits on his opponent's corner.
I'm sorry, but that kind of crapis unnecessary.
If Bisping was smart, he would have collected himself after the fight and posted a video about how bad Jorge Rivera is, how he kicked his ass and shut him up, etc. But he didn't. He went out of his way to make an ass of himself and now people are realizing more and more what a douchebag he is.
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Post by SteveHulk on Mar 7, 2011 20:19:37 GMT -5
The difference is, I don't cheer for fighters based on whether they're from America or not. Some of my favorite fighters aren't even from America. I don't usually care where a guy is from either... if Bisping fights a guy I really like or am a fan of, I'll cheer that guy. But, as I said before, you (US) guys have LOADS of guys to cheer/support and can afford to be more "picky"... you probably can't appreciate only having a handful of guys (at best). Maybe if you only had 3-4 half-decent guys in the whole promotion, you might feel differently. Plus, being a foreigner, I do think people/the media like to paint Bisping out to be a big "villain" - especially when fighting US guys (Hamill, Hendo, Rivera) - when, apart from that knee, he hasn't said or done anything that bad (or that other/US fighters haven't done). I don't know Bisping personally (although I've met him a couple of times) and can only go by what I've seen and read... and in the interviews and two documentaries I've seen, he actually comes across as a pretty down-to-earth, funny guy. I actually didn't think the spitting thing was a big deal... yes, he should have known better and been more professional, but in the heat of the moment - and after all the bad blood, I can understand it (...apparently it was mainly Rivera's trainer/camp who said the more "personal" things).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2011 7:22:06 GMT -5
Kliq - we're not defending the knee to the head... that was just plain heat-of-the-moment wrong. But I do think the bad-blood/spitting was very understandable given all the BS Rivera and his camp had been saying. At the end of the day, we know Bisping's a classless douchebag, but he's our classless douchebag - it's OK for you (US) guys to single him out... you've got loads of great guys to cheer/support. But in the UK, we have very few - and as much of a dickhead he may be, Bisping is one of the few "decent" UK fighters we have. The impact he's had in the UK is incredible... for all the crap he's said or done, he has done wonders for MMA in this country and bringing the UFC here - that's why he gets so much support from the Brits. Nothing , nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing , nothing, nothing , nothing, nothing , nothing, nothing gives anybody the right to spit on another human. I feel it is really the lowest act of the low. Bisping gets the support from the "Brits" because he is. He's done nothing to promote MMA over here and to say he has is just a total lie. A friend of mine tried to organise for him to appear at a UFC After party his only care was how big his fee was and how long he would have to be there for .
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Post by SteveHulk on Mar 8, 2011 22:48:55 GMT -5
Nothing , nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing , nothing, nothing , nothing, nothing , nothing, nothing gives anybody the right to spit on another human. I feel it is really the lowest act of the low. Well it's not as though he went up to an individual and spat directly in their face... he spat towards Rivera's corner - who were behind the fence, about 8 feet away (...the same corner that had been incredibly rude and insulting to him and his family through-out the build-up). He's a fighter and it was a very emotional moment, and while I don't condone his actions - I do think they are understandable somewhat. I don't know whereabouts you are - but if you're saying Bisping's done nothing to promote MMA over here (in the UK), then that's just total BS.
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Post by Bartman on Mar 9, 2011 0:10:35 GMT -5
I've yet to see these shots taken at his family. Not to say that they didn't, maybe I just didn't see it yet.
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