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Post by Halloween King on Mar 6, 2011 18:49:24 GMT -5
www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/06/us-mexico-usa-trucking-idUSTRE7252J520110306?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews Mexico said on Sunday it expects its first truck to cross into U.S. territory in about four months, a move that would end a long-standing cross-border trucking dispute with its main trade partner. President Barack Obama said on Thursday that the United States and Mexico had finally found a "clear path" to resolving the dispute although the proposal has yet to be approved by U.S. lawmakers. The proposal could be ready for congressional scrutiny later this month or in April. "The date we are expecting when a truck can definitely cross ... is in approximately four months," Mexico's Communications and Transport Minister Dionisio Perez-Jacome told reporters. Economy Minister Bruno Ferrari said at the same news conference that the trucking deal between the two countries could be signed by the end of May of mid-June. "As soon as the inking of the deal is announced, we would lift 50 percent of the tariffs," Ferrari said referring to the duties that Mexico has slapped on a rotating list of U.S. products starting in March 2009. The tariffs were the result of U.S. lawmakers blocking funding for a plan to gradually allow Mexican trucks into the United States and meeting a condition of the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) among the United States, Mexico and Canada. The retaliatory tariffs, which Washington says have caused about $2 billion in commercial losses, have been temporarily levied on goods ranging from strawberries to Christmas trees and pork. __________________________________ In times when the economy is doing so poorly, people loosing there homes, and jobs so scarce I am left to wonder WHY??? Not only will allowing Mexican trucks/truckers into the United states eliminate jobs it will also decrease wages paid to American Truckers. Not to mention the dangers this will present to other motorists. In Mexico there are very few safety guidelines for truckers. And the few laws that are on paper are seldom if ever enforced. It just blows my mind how Obama got elected. Instead of doing something to create jobs he is working hard at eliminating trucking jobs.
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Mar 6, 2011 20:37:21 GMT -5
Or he's creating jobs in Mexico, so they don't come here undocumented because they can't otherwise get jobs there.
And honestly, when did it become the president's job to create jobs? Be an entrepreneur, come up with an idea, and people in general quit blaming "those in charge" just because you don't have a job.
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Post by Drdoom on Mar 6, 2011 21:56:40 GMT -5
A migrant worker with a truck and no license killed my brother because he didn't know what a stop sign was. So obviously this is a horrible idea.
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Post by slappy on Mar 6, 2011 22:40:18 GMT -5
Is immigration your only issue? Seems like it.
It still has to be approved by Congress.
We have Canadian trucks here. I see trucks from Canada all the time.
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 6, 2011 22:48:42 GMT -5
.....am I the only one thinking that this isnt going to cost many jobs at all. This was more about trade and less about trucking is what I got from it. Maybe I am wrong...who knows...
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Post by slappy on Mar 6, 2011 22:53:10 GMT -5
.....am I the only one thinking that this isnt going to cost many jobs at all. This was more about trade and less about trucking is what I got from it. Maybe I am wrong...who knows... That sounds right. |
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Mar 7, 2011 0:10:50 GMT -5
I think he's taking it so hard because 1. As Slappy says, he seems to have a MAJOR problem with immigration. 2. He is an actual trucker.
That said, I don't think anyone's wallets are going to take a hit from this.
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Post by Halloween King on Mar 7, 2011 1:27:08 GMT -5
I think he's taking it so hard because 1. As Slappy says, he seems to have a MAJOR problem with immigration. 2. He is an actual trucker. That said, I don't think anyone's wallets are going to take a hit from this. Immigration is a MAJOR issue for me, yes. And Yes I am a trucker so this topic hit home with me. I've driven down to Mexico on numerous occasions but with this new agreement to allow Mexican truckers into the United States it looks like future trips to Mexico will either be few or non existant. Why pay an American trucker dollars to do the work a Mexican trucker will do for Pesos? Im all for Immigration reform which treats people like human beings and not criminals but this new agreement between Obama and Calderon takes American Jobs and gives them to people who dont even live here. That said, I don't think anyone's wallets are going to take a hit from thisActually this does take money out of MY wallet. I've driven to Mexico before on multiple occasions. |
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Post by slappy on Mar 7, 2011 1:42:30 GMT -5
I want to know your take on Canadian trucks coming here.
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Mar 7, 2011 2:00:43 GMT -5
If your goods are needed in Mexico, then you can still drive things to Mexico. Saying you've taken them before and it's your main route are two completely different things.
Also how do you not think this takes money from anyone's wallet, but it does take money from yours?
You make it sound like because of this you will just be out of work. Move to Nashville and take jobs on concert tours, move to a state where you will have work and Mexico isn't necessary. It's not like trucking is a small industry where work can't be found.
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on Mar 7, 2011 2:09:04 GMT -5
I want to know your take on Canadian trucks coming here. Canadians don't work cheap like many Mexican workers. And to the person who said he's creating jobs in Mexico. That's great. But how about create some for the county he's actually president of? I think our entire government doesn't have its priorities straight. They need to figure out what is most important and needs to be taken care of first and focus on that. If its immigration, its immigration. The wars in the Middle east, then its that. The economy, then focus on that. But good God, focus on what's important first instead of dabbling in everything and NOTHING getting done. |
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Post by slappy on Mar 7, 2011 2:14:34 GMT -5
I want to know your take on Canadian trucks coming here. Canadians don't work cheap like many Mexican workers. And to the person who said he's creating jobs in Mexico. That's great. But how about create some for the county he's actually president of? I think our entire government doesn't have its priorities straight. They need to figure out what is most important and needs to be taken care of first and focus on that. If its immigration, its immigration. The wars in the Middle east, then its that. The economy, then focus on that. But good God, focus on what's important first instead of dabbling in everything and NOTHING getting done. No, they are coming here to take the jobs, so the Canadians must be as well. If a company is in Mexico and their goods are shipped to the US via these trucks, it's not taking any money away from any American. If they focus on Mexico, a large group of people will bitch about the wars or the economy, etc. If they focus on the economy, people will bitch about Mexico or the wars, etc. |
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on Mar 7, 2011 2:17:51 GMT -5
Canadians don't work cheap like many Mexican workers. And to the person who said he's creating jobs in Mexico. That's great. But how about create some for the county he's actually president of? I think our entire government doesn't have its priorities straight. They need to figure out what is most important and needs to be taken care of first and focus on that. If its immigration, its immigration. The wars in the Middle east, then its that. The economy, then focus on that. But good God, focus on what's important first instead of dabbling in everything and NOTHING getting done. No, they are coming here to take the jobs, so the Canadians must be as well. If a company is in Mexico and their goods are shipped to the US via these trucks, it's not taking any money away from any American. If they focus on Mexico, a large group of people will bitch about the wars or the economy, etc. If they focus on the economy, people will bitch about Mexico or the wars, etc. Impoverished Mexico vs. Canada who has a better economy than us.... yeah, not the same. And its not taking money away from your average consumer, no, but it does from those who lose out on those routes. And you're right, people will bitch, but guess what? People will bitch no matter what. Might as well actually focus on one thing and let them bitch about them focusing on one thing, rather than focusing on everything, getting nothing done, and everyone bitching. |
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Post by slappy on Mar 7, 2011 12:21:14 GMT -5
No, they are coming here to take the jobs, so the Canadians must be as well. If a company is in Mexico and their goods are shipped to the US via these trucks, it's not taking any money away from any American. If they focus on Mexico, a large group of people will bitch about the wars or the economy, etc. If they focus on the economy, people will bitch about Mexico or the wars, etc. Impoverished Mexico vs. Canada who has a better economy than us.... yeah, not the same. And its not taking money away from your average consumer, no, but it does from those who lose out on those routes. And you're right, people will bitch, but guess what? People will bitch no matter what. Might as well actually focus on one thing and let them bitch about them focusing on one thing, rather than focusing on everything, getting nothing done, and everyone bitching. So it's ok if people come here as long as their country has a better economy than us? It lifts tariffs that have cost companies here billions of dollars. That money could go to employees since the companies won't have to pay it to Mexico. Stuff is getting done, people don't know because they don't want to believe stuff is getting done and/or they aren't promoting it enough. |
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Mar 7, 2011 13:26:08 GMT -5
No, they are coming here to take the jobs, so the Canadians must be as well. If a company is in Mexico and their goods are shipped to the US via these trucks, it's not taking any money away from any American. If they focus on Mexico, a large group of people will bitch about the wars or the economy, etc. If they focus on the economy, people will bitch about Mexico or the wars, etc. Impoverished Mexico vs. Canada who has a better economy than us.... yeah, not the same. And its not taking money away from your average consumer, no, but it does from those who lose out on those routes. And you're right, people will bitch, but guess what? People will bitch no matter what. Might as well actually focus on one thing and let them bitch about them focusing on one thing, rather than focusing on everything, getting nothing done, and everyone bitching. Let me explain how deliverable goods work. If goods in the US are made here and need to get to Mexico, then a driver, usually from here, will have them loaded in his truck and then he will drive it to Mexico. If goods from MX need to come here, then same idea but from a different country. Now either driver may be there when a shipment needs to go the other way, which is usually likely, and just saves time. The OP may say different later, but he's just trying to argue for himself. My boss worked as a trucker for 20 years and his step dad owns a trucking company out of the northeast. You can make this same argument for losing routes within the US already. Switching trucking companies, constantly using out of state guys instead of instate guys, etc. All Obama did was allow commerce and trade to continue. Whether business uses a Mexican or American is their choice. I can guarantee most of them will use both. |
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