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Post by MacReady on Mar 23, 2011 14:25:39 GMT -5
I'm a massive Christian fan, but I agree with Willbuh completely.
The randomness of Christian being in the World Title match JUST because of his beef with Del Rio makes zero sense. None of you want to admit that it's random, so you say it's because he deserves a title shot. True, he does, but not at Wrestlemania.
He deserves his OWN title shot, he doesn't need to be shoehorned into a title match 2 weeks before it happens just to appease a few people on an internet forum. And you will be the same people to complain when he isn't claiming WWE blew it. If there was something there to blow, sure, but if there isn't anything set up then there isn't anything to blow.
Christian will have his time, this isn't it.
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Post by Chip on Mar 23, 2011 14:28:04 GMT -5
Christian is a prime example of a guy who never has been able to break through the WWE "ceiling" and most fans who saw him emerge from a random throwaway 3rd member of a "Gothic Vampire group" to a huge part of the Attitude Era. Winning tons of tag titles & secondary titles...but never reaching that climax of a World Championship. Mostly he's been a victim of circumstance.
He's got a TON of talent, in the ring & on the mic...and obviously became a hot comoddity when he left for TNA a few years ago. People got to see how he performed as the main guy of a wrestling company and it worked....so they feel the WWE should make him so.
I think Christian's time is coming. No I do not want him thrown in to the main event at Wrestlemania 27. I like that he's in this feud as people HATE Del Rio so pitting a guy like Christian against him is smart...and I'm hoping those 2 will feud AFTER Wrestlemania leading up to Christian finally getting his big moment that he deserves- Being a World champion in the WWE.
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Post by HugoOne on Mar 23, 2011 14:35:47 GMT -5
The only real Christian scenario that had any merit was Jeff Hardy's attacker. I still think that was the original plan before they changed it. Every other is mostly WF wishful thinking.
As far as Wrestlemania goes, he DOES have history with Edge, and a feud with Del Rio, not to mention a clean victory over him last week on Smackdown! He's also featured in Smackdown!'s main event every week so far and has no Wrestlemania match. I don't expect it to happen this close to 'Mania but it is logical. It seems they'll save a triple threat for Extreme Rules though.
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Post by canusmelltheheat on Mar 23, 2011 15:02:36 GMT -5
Actualy from what i heard, the original plans for the jeff hardy angle was for it to be christian, but everyone knew about it so vince threw in a swerve.
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Post by missedgehead on Mar 23, 2011 15:29:40 GMT -5
I'm a massive Christian fan, but I agree with Willbuh completely. The randomness of Christian being in the World Title match JUST because of his beef with Del Rio makes zero sense. None of you want to admit that it's random, so you say it's because he deserves a title shot. True, he does, but not at Wrestlemania. He deserves his OWN title shot, he doesn't need to be shoehorned into a title match 2 weeks before it happens just to appease a few people on an internet forum. And you will be the same people to complain when he isn't claiming WWE blew it. If there was something there to blow, sure, but if there isn't anything set up then there isn't anything to blow. Christian will have his time, this isn't it. A-FREAKING-MEN to this. |
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Post by wabarrett on Mar 23, 2011 15:34:58 GMT -5
I'm a massive Christian fan, but I agree with Willbuh completely. The randomness of Christian being in the World Title match JUST because of his beef with Del Rio makes zero sense. None of you want to admit that it's random, so you say it's because he deserves a title shot. True, he does, but not at Wrestlemania. He deserves his OWN title shot, he doesn't need to be shoehorned into a title match 2 weeks before it happens just to appease a few people on an internet forum. And you will be the same people to complain when he isn't claiming WWE blew it. If there was something there to blow, sure, but if there isn't anything set up then there isn't anything to blow. Christian will have his time, this isn't it. A-FREAKING-MEN to this. Indeed. |
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Post by Jimmy on Mar 23, 2011 15:49:52 GMT -5
Except that it's not just because of his feud with Del Rio, it's also due to the small fact that his former 'brother', longtime partner and man he is most closely associated with is the World Heavyweight Champion. They've been teasing Edge and Christian both fighting and teaming since 2009, it would make plenty of sense for Christian to be inserted into the match and thus create more tension between Edge and Christian.
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Post by gelatinoustapeworm on Mar 23, 2011 16:06:20 GMT -5
Except that it's not just because of his feud with Del Rio, it's also due to the small fact that his former 'brother', longtime partner and man he is most closely associated with is the World Heavyweight Champion. They've been teasing Edge and Christian both fighting and teaming since 2009, it would make plenty of sense for Christian to be inserted into the match and thus create more tension between Edge and Christian. I agree with this 100%. It absolutely makes sense for him to be added to the match. He has a long, storied history with Edge and a current feud with Del Rio. I really don't see how you can say that it doesn't make sense. Now with that said, I fully expect him NOT to be added to the match. For some stupid reason, Vince just doesn't seem to see much in Christian. I hope I'm wrong, but I would not be surprised if Christian never wins the big one in the WWE. |
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Post by Adam235 on Mar 23, 2011 16:19:56 GMT -5
Christian did well as the #1 guy in TNA for awhile and he is a good wrestler plus great on the mic. I'd love to see him included in Del Rio/Edge match at Mania but I have my doubts of it happening..
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Post by MacReady on Mar 23, 2011 16:24:37 GMT -5
Except that it's not just because of his feud with Del Rio, it's also due to the small fact that his former 'brother', longtime partner and man he is most closely associated with is the World Heavyweight Champion. They've been teasing Edge and Christian both fighting and teaming since 2009, it would make plenty of sense for Christian to be inserted into the match and thus create more tension between Edge and Christian. How does it make sense really? Christian is feuding with Del Rio, yes, that's fine. How random would it be for him to turn to Edge, and say " you know what I want to fight Del Rio, BUDDY OF MINE, and I know that you're fighting him and putting your title on the line and Wrestlemania. Since we're friends and all, let me lessen your chances of walking out of Wrestlemania as the champion just to settle my score with Del Rio. I want Del Rio, but you're fighting him, so I guess I have to go after your championship too.... You're cool with that right?" There's no logic in that. |
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Post by wabarrett on Mar 23, 2011 16:26:54 GMT -5
Except that it's not just because of his feud with Del Rio, it's also due to the small fact that his former 'brother', longtime partner and man he is most closely associated with is the World Heavyweight Champion. They've been teasing Edge and Christian both fighting and teaming since 2009, it would make plenty of sense for Christian to be inserted into the match and thus create more tension between Edge and Christian. How does it make sense really? Christian is feuding with Del Rio, yes, that's fine. How random would it be for him to turn to Edge, and say " you know what I want to fight Del Rio, BUDDY OF MINE, and I know that you're fighting him and putting your title on the line and Wrestlemania. Since we're friends and all, let me lessen your chances of walking out of Wrestlemania as the champion just to settle my score with Del Rio. I want Del Rio, but you're fighting him, so I guess I have to go after your championship too.... You're cool with that right?" There's no logic in that. Exactly! People will try to weave around it, but it's truly hard to argue against that. Also as I mentioned earlier the contract has been signed. |
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Post by King Silva on Mar 23, 2011 16:44:04 GMT -5
"I'm referring to those people that were hoping for Christian to be revealed as Jeff Hardy's mystery attacker a couple of years back. I'm referring to all the talk of Christian returning and winning the Royal Rumble, both in 09 and this last one. Then there was Christian supposedly being the 6th member and eventual winner of the EC match last month. Now, the majority of the forum is calling for Christian to randomly be added to the World Title match at WrestleMania...?" *Christian would have been a LOT better than Matt Hardy... *I didn't want him to win the Rumble in 09 and for this year he was my 4th or 5th choice. I just think him vs Edge would be a great match especially at WM. *Being the 6th member of the EC this past month would have been awesome. Instead we got Big Show...  I dislike Show a lot so almost anyone is better than him imo. Christian winning or coming pretty damn close would have been great to see because again it would lead to him and Edge at WM. *As for Christian being added to the WHT match at WM I think he for sure deserves it and there is for sure a reason to put him in after beating ADR [more on that later...] and in general being involved in the feud. Christian and ADR's feud goes back to Sep last year while him and Edge obviously have tons of history. So those are are my main reasons why I want[ed] the wwe to do something big with Christian now [or in the past]. |
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Post by Jimmy on Mar 23, 2011 16:48:27 GMT -5
Christian doesn't make the match, Teddy Long does. He cites Christian's past victories over Edge, his lack of a World Title shot since about 2005, and his victories over Del Rio as his reasons for putting Christian in the match. It's that simple.
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Post by Edge618 on Mar 23, 2011 17:08:10 GMT -5
The answer is that Christian has a big following here, we like him. The Jeff Hardy angle, was plausible, him coming back and winning the Rumble this year was more far fetched, but still plausible because Edge is champion and he saluted Christian in his match. Him being a mystery opponent in the EC was plausible, it was already announced that there would be a mystery entrant, he was rumored to be coming back soon, and he even returned that same night. Him being added to the WM main event makes sense, he's beaten the #1 contender clean, Del Rio is the one that took him out in the first place, and he has huge history with Edge. Yeah people went nuts on all of those ideas that they could be Christian, buts its not like people just pull crap out of their butts to believe Christian will get a push. Every time people thought he would get one it would of all made sense if it had happened, it just didnt.
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Post by johnnypoopypants on Mar 23, 2011 17:12:31 GMT -5
Except that it's not just because of his feud with Del Rio, it's also due to the small fact that his former 'brother', longtime partner and man he is most closely associated with is the World Heavyweight Champion. They've been teasing Edge and Christian both fighting and teaming since 2009, it would make plenty of sense for Christian to be inserted into the match and thus create more tension between Edge and Christian. Plus, Christian BEAT Del Rio. And I for one don't care if Christian never wins the title. I just think Edge vs Del Rio on its own is fairly boring for a WrestleMania world title match. A triple threat would be more entertaining, no matter who wins. |
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Post by King Silva on Mar 23, 2011 17:13:48 GMT -5
Christian doesn't make the match, Teddy Long does. He cites Christian's past victories over Edge, his lack of a World Title shot since about 2005, and his victories over Del Rio as his reasons for putting Christian in the match. It's that simple. That's exactly what I was going to say after I read the bold post. Teddy long can add to any contract already signed. He's done it before [Rey added to the WM 22 WHT match is one prime example]... |
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Post by Sonnen on Mar 23, 2011 17:26:25 GMT -5
He looked out of place main eventing TNA, he'll look more out of place as a World Champion in WWE.
The guy is a mid carder - upper mid carder, he is in that spot for a reason.
The guy is talented, but he isn't Edge.
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Post by Chip on Mar 23, 2011 17:28:47 GMT -5
Christian isn't going to win the WHC at Wrestlemania 27. Him being "randomly" thrown into that match to LOSE would hurt his credibility more than not being in the match.
Like I've said...this is just the stepping stone, hopefully. I'd like to see Christian & ADR feud through the summer. Give ADR a decent heel title run building up to a HUGE Christian win and him finally breaking through.
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Post by Mr. K.O on Mar 23, 2011 18:27:32 GMT -5
The guy was over in 2005 and still is to this day. He's talented and he deserves the push. Even if he doesn't win a World Title soon, I still want him to be involved in those matches to prove he's World Championship Material.
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Post by Barrett on Mar 23, 2011 18:33:47 GMT -5
I can't speak for others, but I'll clarify for my own behalf. Do I want him in the World Heavyweight Championship at Wrestlemania? Hell yeah. Edge/Del Rio has never felt like a WM-worthy match to me. If he gets added before the show I'll be pumped. But I never wanted him to be a last minute addition. I wanted him to be added to the match a month ago. The fact that he isn't in the match (or any for that matter) yet he's been so heavily involved in one of the main feuds heading into WM is utterly baffling to me.
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