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Post by STOMWIJF on Nov 5, 2007 17:09:01 GMT -5
Why didn't the WWF/E never really push The Powers of Pain?
Warlord was insanely powerful and Barbarian was very talented and agile. True... they were Legion of Doom rip-offs, but so was Demolition.
When they appeared in the WWF (in the summer of 88) they made quite an impact squashing The Boljevics. Later that year they won the Tag Teams Survivor Series match and made a heel/face switch with Demolition, which was pretty huge.
After that.... really nothing happened.
True... they got a Tag Team Championship match at WrestleMania V, but for some reason WWF decided to make Mr. Fuji part of the match.... why? Why make it a handicap match?
A match between Ax & Smash and Warlord & Barbarian at the biggest stage would have been awesome.
Then WWF basically faded them out having the PoP lose to The Rockers and even to The Bushwackers.
Their respective solo careers amounted to nothing special either as I cannot recall either winning big matches except to Tito Santana (who at that point of his career lostto nearly everyone).
Why didn't the Powers ever get the title when they were a hot team? Why weren't they pushed more?
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Post by glitter on Nov 5, 2007 18:57:41 GMT -5
Good question as this has always bothered me too. They seemed crazy-over and then were even hot as heels and then it fizzled out.
The only thing I can think of is that WWE knew LOD was coming in eventually and didn't want the fued with Demolition to seem like a rehash fued with PoP.
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Post by fallenhero on Nov 5, 2007 21:19:50 GMT -5
Because they were an NWA creation. They were brought in almost solely to be the punching bags of Demolition once Vinnie Mac got the chance to throw the two together.
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Post by LeighD on Nov 6, 2007 13:17:48 GMT -5
Because they were an NWA creation. They were brought in almost solely to be the punching bags of Demolition once Vinnie Mac got the chance to throw the two together. ^ This is more than likely the reason. I was always disappointed that the PoP never got the big push they deserved and needed. Just the image of the two standing next to each other is impressive let alone the skills each member possessed. Sadly it was never meant to be I guess. |
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Nov 8, 2007 5:28:19 GMT -5
You've got some great questions there STOM, but I can't really answer them for you. I would've liked to have seen The Powers of Pain as tag champs for sure, but as mentioned above, I guess it just wasn't meant to be. There must be a back story as to why they never became tag team champs. We just haven't heard it yet, that's all.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2007 9:14:06 GMT -5
Not only did they not get the titles as a tag team but neither one got any kind of title in the WWF or WCW as singles competitors. I think they got the NWA tag titles though.
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Post by carly1988 on Nov 9, 2007 4:16:24 GMT -5
Because they were an NWA creation. They were brought in almost solely to be the punching bags of Demolition once Vinnie Mac got the chance to throw the two together. Exactly what i was going to say....If its not Vinces creation he will pretty much crap all over it.....Powers of Pain, Vader, Cactus Jack, ECW, WCW, Harley Race, nWo.....Should i keep going? |
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Post by The Boglin on Nov 9, 2007 11:28:08 GMT -5
I think mainly cause the Demo's were cooler. and I don't like when people say AX and Smash were Road Warrior rip offs because maybe it started like that but in the end they really made their own mark and lets face it, Hawk and Animal wish they could work like the AXer and the Smasher.
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Post by fallenhero on Nov 9, 2007 12:52:16 GMT -5
I think mainly cause the Demo's were cooler. and I don't like when people say AX and Smash were Road Warrior rip offs because maybe it started like that but in the end they really made their own mark and lets face it, Hawk and Animal wish they could work like the AXer and the Smasher. Seriously, how people can say the Road Warriors were the better team is beyond me. I love Hawk and Animal, but let's be real. Demos had better matches with Tully and Arn than LOD did, they had a better match with the Hart Foundation than LOD did, they were generally better wrestlers than LOD. They were the superior team in just about every way. But I'll give LOD the fact they were the first real big, muscular, in your face, badass team of their generation. And without them, we probably wouldn't have had Demolition. |
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Post by htmlegend on Nov 9, 2007 20:00:58 GMT -5
I think RF video did a shoot interview with The Powers of Pain, so maybe they say in there why they didn't get a push. But would you buy the dvd just for that?
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Post by The Boglin on Nov 9, 2007 21:24:43 GMT -5
I think mainly cause the Demo's were cooler. and I don't like when people say AX and Smash were Road Warrior rip offs because maybe it started like that but in the end they really made their own mark and lets face it, Hawk and Animal wish they could work like the AXer and the Smasher. Seriously, how people can say the Road Warriors were the better team is beyond me. I love Hawk and Animal, but let's be real. Demos had better matches with Tully and Arn than LOD did, they had a better match with the Hart Foundation than LOD did, they were generally better wrestlers than LOD. They were the superior team in just about every way. But I'll give LOD the fact they were the first real big, muscular, in your face, badass team of their generation. And without them, we probably wouldn't have had Demolition. I couldn't of said it better myself. ;D and wow are you really 16? If so thats probably the smartest thing a 16 year old ever said on on this board. |
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Nov 13, 2007 1:51:29 GMT -5
Part of it was probably because Damolition was more over and Vince's creation...
but you also have to look at other facts.
The tag team division was huge around this time...
there were so many teams that many of the best teams there never won the tag titles or in some cases even had pushes chasing them...
The fact that PoP had a push, not only chasing after the belts, but chasing them to Wrestlemania, I'd say that was a big push... After that, there were just other teams they wanted to focus on. It makes sense to me... As a huge Barbarian fan, I'd have loved a title run from him, but I undrestand how thigns went... Titles were not handed out at that time in WWF, and some of the biggest stars they had never held any.
That was the 80s... Man, I miss them so.
also, in response to the other debate... Bill Eadie and Barry Darsow were certainly the superior wrestlers, but LoD were their gimmick. Both teams were amazing, and deserve all the credit they ever recieve... And to call anyone Road Warriors Ripoffs is funny... cause they all ripped off the Mad Max movies.
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Post by fallenhero on Nov 14, 2007 13:10:24 GMT -5
Seriously, how people can say the Road Warriors were the better team is beyond me. I love Hawk and Animal, but let's be real. Demos had better matches with Tully and Arn than LOD did, they had a better match with the Hart Foundation than LOD did, they were generally better wrestlers than LOD. They were the superior team in just about every way. But I'll give LOD the fact they were the first real big, muscular, in your face, badass team of their generation. And without them, we probably wouldn't have had Demolition. I couldn't of said it better myself. ;D and wow are you really 16? If so thats probably the smartest thing a 16 year old ever said on on this board. Yeah, I'm really 16,  ed up on my birthdate, though. It should be 7/21/91. Oh well. |
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Post by Suckasays on Nov 17, 2007 16:39:17 GMT -5
Because they were an NWA creation. They were brought in almost solely to be the punching bags of Demolition once Vinnie Mac got the chance to throw the two together. I wouldn't really say that being as though LOD got a decent push on a few occassions in the WWE and they weren't Vince's creations. On another note, I remember the LOD/POP feud in the NWA being quite awesome. I seem to remember POP attacking LOD in the weight room or something like that. |
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Post by fallenhero on Nov 17, 2007 16:47:57 GMT -5
Because they were an NWA creation. They were brought in almost solely to be the punching bags of Demolition once Vinnie Mac got the chance to throw the two together. I wouldn't really say that being as though LOD got a decent push on a few occassions in the WWE and they weren't Vince's creations. On another note, I remember the LOD/POP feud in the NWA being quite awesome. I seem to remember POP attacking LOD in the weight room or something like that. LOD is a completely different story. Demolition was an LOD spinoff, and when Vince was able to get the real thing, he was quick the phase out the spinoffs. |
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Post by Grenouille on Nov 20, 2007 11:47:15 GMT -5
I would put part of the blame on their heel turn. After recently watching Survivor Series '88 again it still seems like it came out of nowhere. Why would the top babyface team all of a sudden team with Mr. Fuji? I'm not sure if the writers back then had a clue as to why, and I'm still puzzled since they were a popular face team. The live crowd also seemed confused as hell with the finish, which probably didn't help convey the switch. In some way it was as if Fuji was the one that turned not the POP.
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Nov 23, 2007 14:03:02 GMT -5
It is sad how usually it always turns out to the fact that Vince doesn't push what he didn't create. He loves to just relaly go over on his own guys. Though notable exceptions have been made it stands true for the most part.
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