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Post by LA Times on Mar 29, 2012 21:16:57 GMT -5
Indians close to acquiring Bobby Abreu even though the guy has been fat and lazy since 2007
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Post by Jimmy on Mar 29, 2012 22:00:52 GMT -5
They should have just signed Vlad; would be cheaper and wouldn't have to give up anything. But Abreu can at least play some D though so there is that.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Mar 30, 2012 11:55:28 GMT -5
The Yankees are leaning toward not putting Michael Pineda in the rotation to start the year....and honestly, I'm fine with that.
Michael Pineda just turned 23 years old, last year was his rookie year, he's still discovering himself as an athlete and a pitcher. We have him under control for a lot of years.....I say we put Freddy Garcia in the rotation and get every bit out of him while he's still got it.
Once you are a starting pitcher pas the age of 35....the clock is ticking on your effectiveness. But for guys after 35 who still have it like Kuroda, Garcia and Pettitte....I say use them, get all you can out of them, completely make sure you empty the tank on what they are capable of, and then if/when you have to replace them, you have kids in their 20's like Nova, Pineda and Hughes ready to go.
Plus, I think some time at AAA will help Pineda. I see a young kid who doesn't yet understand the importance of conditioning his body. To be traded to the Yankees and show up 20 pounds overweight shows a lack of maturity. And on a baseball level, he's still so much of a thrower and not yet a complete pitcher. Some time in AAA to not only perfect his 2 main pitches (fastball and slider), but to develop a third pitch (that changeup he's been working on) will make him much more effective in the long run.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Mar 30, 2012 12:42:48 GMT -5
You show up to camp out of shape it says something about you. What team it is is completely irrelevant.
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Post by ICW on Mar 30, 2012 14:08:12 GMT -5
It would be a major, major mistake for the Yankees to send Pineda to Triple-A. It's not going to happen because it would be an incredibly stupid move for them to make.
Plus, the Yankees Triple-A team - renamed the Empire State Yankees - do not have an official home for their team (stadium is undergoing rennovations I believe). They'll constantly be traveling.
Start the season with Sabathia/Kuroda/Nova/Hughes/Pineda and put Garcia in the bullpen. Even though Garcia pitched well for the Yankees last season and has had a very good spring, he should not get in the way of someone like Pineda. Pineda has looked fine in camp, this "missing velocity!!!!!" crap is just that: crap.
Again, Yankees would be insanely stupid to send Pineda to Triple-A.
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Post by jc on Mar 30, 2012 15:48:16 GMT -5
I'm actually inclined to agree with Lorenzo, there's no problem developing a young kid before he hits the bright lights.
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Post by ICW on Mar 30, 2012 15:52:07 GMT -5
Pineda pitched all of 2011 in the Major Leagues and was more than effective starting pitcher. He doesnt need anymore development, his changeup already looks like a solid major league pitch that will only improve.
Just stop this madness. I sincerely hope the Yankees have common sense...
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Post by T R W on Mar 30, 2012 16:01:48 GMT -5
The braves signed Livan Hernandez. I didn't know he was still living.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Mar 30, 2012 16:04:27 GMT -5
If te Yankees didnt want to developing him under the lights like you said, they never would have traded for him.
Gimme a break, hes not gonna learn or get better in AAA.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Mar 30, 2012 19:28:44 GMT -5
Pineda has to be hurt, you dont get fat and stop throwing hard.
He is either hurt or messed up in the head with something.
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Post by jc on Mar 30, 2012 20:04:31 GMT -5
Thus my agreeing with Lorenzo, a few months in Triple-A could do wonders. He needs to get his velocity back up.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Mar 30, 2012 20:09:27 GMT -5
Thus my agreeing with Lorenzo, a few months in Triple-A could do wonders. He needs to get his velocity back up. If hes hurt, whats that going to do?
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Post by jc on Mar 30, 2012 20:26:45 GMT -5
Thus my agreeing with Lorenzo, a few months in Triple-A could do wonders. He needs to get his velocity back up. If hes hurt, whats that going to do? Who says he's actually hurt?
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Mar 30, 2012 21:20:22 GMT -5
If hes hurt, whats that going to do? Who says he's actually hurt? He is either hurt or messed up in the head, you do not lose talent or lose velo beacuse you are fat.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Mar 30, 2012 21:57:49 GMT -5
He's got a shoulder injury. It's been bothering him and he didn't tell anybody until tonight.
What an idiot.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Mar 30, 2012 22:00:51 GMT -5
He's got a shoulder injury. It's been bothering him and he didn't tell anybody until tonight. What an idiot. HE HAS GENERAL SORENESS, JESUS GET OFF THE CROSS Michael Pineda says he felt soreness in his right (pitching) shoulder during his disappointing Friday outing against the Phillies. Pineda characterized it as "normal" soreness, but reported it to Yankees coaches after giving up six runs in just 2 2/3 innings. Dogged by questions about his velocity this spring, Pineda admitted he was trying to throw harder Friday. His fastball sat between 90-92 miles per hour, topping out at 94. Pineda's soreness sounds like a minor issue, but could be the opening the Yanks need to have their big offseason acquisition spend some time in the minors or extended spring training to begin the season. Its troubling, but it could very well be....just soreness.
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Post by T R W on Mar 30, 2012 22:38:20 GMT -5
The Braves are rumored to be up for sale soon. I am really hope Arthur Blank goes for them again, since he got screwed last time.
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Post by Jimmy on Mar 30, 2012 23:57:08 GMT -5
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Post by T R W on Mar 31, 2012 7:20:53 GMT -5
That thing is so bad, I love love love it.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Mar 31, 2012 11:58:03 GMT -5
I only survived 30 seconds of it. Horrible. Just horrible.
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