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Post by Kenny Powers on Nov 25, 2007 22:56:02 GMT -5
All of these guys had relatively short pro-wrestling careers but all were extremely over and successful. Who do you think was the biggest of the 3? Not necessarily the best in talent, but more in impact on professional wrestling.
If you choose other, please explain.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Nov 25, 2007 22:58:57 GMT -5
I would say Brock Lesnar... He hit the WWE hard and was immediately huge. He had more fantastic matches in his WWE career than all of these guys in there respective WWE Careers. Brock Lesnar was talented, the only thing he lacked was great mic skills and even then he wasn't overly bad but he was paired up with Heyman for a lot of his duration so it didn't really matter. So I would say Brock easily.
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Post by The Dude on Nov 25, 2007 23:18:01 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar, he was HUGE! He was very talented, very young, and very over. I think that if he would have stayed there would have been no John Cena Reign of Terror.
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Post by cureforthesickness on Nov 26, 2007 13:18:01 GMT -5
Warrior was over more than Lesnar or Goldberg could ever dream of.. Warrior had so much ridicious crapwith his name/face on it.. and guess what.. it sold..
Lesnar versus Goldberg couldn't even sell the Garden, more less an oversized novelty foam finger in the shape of facepaint
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Post by Adam3s - V1 on Nov 26, 2007 13:43:43 GMT -5
Other: The Rock. 95-02 is about the time period he was in WWE which is 7 years. Warriror and Goldberg couldn't have been much shorter than that.
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Post by Flava Dave on Nov 26, 2007 14:08:41 GMT -5
Definitely Brock Lesnar. He dominated for two years and he was actually a good wrestler.
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Post by Pure-Shape-Mind on Nov 26, 2007 14:11:52 GMT -5
Goldberg was in the business for a little more than 3 years.... maybe pushing 4, with barely any time in the Power Plant before his debut.
He won like 3-4 world championships.... beat Hogan, Hart, Sting, Flair, Triple H, Shawn Michaels amongst others....
For the amount experience within the business, there's no doubt he had the biggest impact and success in a short period of time.
Lesnar was in OVW for 2 years maybe, then had a good 3-4 year WWE career, but alot of the higher up WWE guys (aside from Rock and Taker) wouldn't put him over to make his run more legendary.
Warrior had a good run, but alot of it was in the mid-card battling for the IC title because Hogan was the main baby face of the company at the time. Lesnar had 2-3 months of mid-card, won the King of the Ring and was already main eventing summerslam and winning the title. Goldberg had a short run to the US title and went straight to Hogan because he was getting over so fast.
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Post by guygardner on Nov 26, 2007 23:23:37 GMT -5
Goldberg. Hands down. He was more over than God. To this day I don't believe a word about WCW piping in crowd noise for him.
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Nov 26, 2007 23:56:58 GMT -5
Goldberg had HUGE impact on wrestling. Toward the end of Lesnar's run I couldn't care less about the guy. He was dominating, great. Goldberg had a huge winning streak that helped put him over. When WCW was dominated by the most over done group in wrestling, you had Goldberg. Lesnar was like Goldberg with more talent to me. Warrior was really over but so was WWF as a whole. When your main eventing along side Hogan and cutting bizarre promos that only little kids can understand, you'll be over. But as much as I hate Goldberg, I go with him on this one.
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Post by spawnsyxx9 on Nov 27, 2007 14:36:22 GMT -5
At the time though Warrior needed to push form Andre and loads of time off camera in MSG to get over. He was poised to take over from the day that "Dingo Warrior" came into the world.
Goldberg was put over for about a year and a half before he beat Hollywood Hogan I believe for the WCW World Title and had to be put over to win the US Title.
Brock Lesnar was pretty much the champion 6 monthes after he debuted I believe. He debuted right after WM and was beating the Rock at Summerslam. Plus the fact that in ratio he won several world titles within only 2 years while Goldberg and Warrior did have some time under their feet before they even touched gold the first time.
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Nov 27, 2007 17:25:45 GMT -5
I voted for Brock Lesnar on a technicality, basically:
Ultimate Warrior: When you take everyone at the height of his career, Warrior had the greatest single moment of any of those guys (WM6 win over Hogan), better merchandising, and tons of fans. However, he was around for like 4 years in pro wrestling before his popularity exploded. Warrior had four years to hone his gimmick and work matches in various territories before his big run. Brock's entire career was shorter than Warrior's climb to the top, and Goldberg was also a much bigger "instant" hit than Warrior.
Goldberg: He got over a lot bigger than Brock Lesnar, but his WWE Run really hurt his legacy, IMO. Also, in the last days of WCW he took a few leaves of absence, and when he was there, the booking didn't always flatter him or allow him to maximize his fan base to the extent that he could have.
Brock Lesnar: Ironically, he was the least "over" of the three, but I had to vote for him based on two things: 1) The extreme brevity of his wrestling career compared to how quickly he became a really good worker, and 2) by the time he started alienating his fans by being a jerk, he was already gone from (or on his way out of) WWE. Unlike Goldberg and the Warrior, who became arrogant and disinterested in pro wrestling and then stuck around to milk their name value for a few more years.
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Post by COCK & BLAST on Nov 27, 2007 18:07:10 GMT -5
Goldberg without a question.
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Post by taker1 on Nov 29, 2007 22:02:46 GMT -5
Lessnar. He was really nice and cool too. I have a great photo with him from January 2003.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Dec 1, 2007 4:41:56 GMT -5
Well... As much as I love lesnar as a talent, I just can't rank him with the other two in this category... His impact in wrestling just won't be felt for a very long time.
Goldberg was a huge success at one point, I remember reading sales figures once on the top three selling tshirts and it went as follows: 1. South Park 2. Steve Austin 3. Goldberg... That's pretty crazy...But in the end I don't think he'll really be remembered, except by the huge WCW fans of the time... but his impact isn't far reaching.
Warrior however... I still know people who are huge fans of the man... Sure he was bad in the ring, and he's a major tool out of it... But people remember him very fondly even now, almost 20 years after the fact.
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Post by Eskimo Joe on Dec 1, 2007 11:56:32 GMT -5
I voted Lesnar, but then I saw that I guy voted for The Rock. I didn't even think of him. It was undoubtedly the Rock.
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Post by WalterF on Dec 1, 2007 15:30:48 GMT -5
I don't know why The Rock isn't on here? His career was very short and he by far made more impact than anyone listed here.
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Post by Kenny Powers on Dec 1, 2007 15:48:06 GMT -5
I don't know why The Rock isn't on here? His career was very short and he by far made more impact than anyone listed here. I didn't put Rock on here because I view the other 3 as being similar in wrestling style. Rock is so far and away in his own category that he'd blow these 3 out of the water and it would be no contest.
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Post by Bartman on Dec 1, 2007 18:27:00 GMT -5
Warrior.
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Post by gunnerbri on Dec 1, 2007 22:15:16 GMT -5
Maven
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Post by Christian on Dec 2, 2007 14:47:03 GMT -5
Brock.
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