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Post by marino13 on Apr 4, 2011 16:08:57 GMT -5
"There's a big difference to using a Finish somebody did b4 U, and is doing while U still Wrestle."
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Post by scoobypat on Apr 4, 2011 16:10:06 GMT -5
But it doesn't matter to you. If they called it the Angle Slam, you'd complain that they'd disgrace Kurt Angle's name by associating it with a move done by Randy Orton. Same with the Styles Clash. No, I wouldn't. And that AJ comparison is stupid. He was never in WWE, they have no reason to acknowledge him. Angle has worked for them for years, is known worldwide as one of the best wrestlers in history, he deserves RESPECT when somebody is using his damn move. Jesus Christ. Ok, what about Christian, former TNA world champion, used the Unprettier/face buster. Soooo every time a TNA wrestler does that they reference Christian right? I'm quite sure I've seen it done multiple times and never heard a peep from TNA commentary.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2011 16:11:36 GMT -5
"There's a big difference to using a Finish somebody did b4 U, and is doing while U still Wrestle." Keyword: FINISH.
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Post by scoobypat on Apr 4, 2011 16:12:55 GMT -5
"There's a big difference to using a Finish somebody did b4 U, and is doing while U still Wrestle." Keyword: FINISH. Orton got a pin on an RKO. So he didn't technically steal Angle's finisher.
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Post by slappy on Apr 4, 2011 16:16:46 GMT -5
But it doesn't matter to you. If they called it the Angle Slam, you'd complain that they'd disgrace Kurt Angle's name by associating it with a move done by Randy Orton. Same with the Styles Clash. No, I wouldn't. And that AJ comparison is stupid. He was never in WWE, they have no reason to acknowledge him. Angle has worked for them for years, is known worldwide as one of the best wrestlers in history, he deserves RESPECT when somebody is using his damn move. Jesus Christ. His move? When doing the spinebuster do they have to reference Arn Anderson? I mean he still works for them. Someone hits a double axe handle off the top rope they have to mention Macho Man? A leg drop they have to mention Hogan?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2011 16:17:03 GMT -5
No, I wouldn't. And that AJ comparison is stupid. He was never in WWE, they have no reason to acknowledge him. Angle has worked for them for years, is known worldwide as one of the best wrestlers in history, he deserves RESPECT when somebody is using his damn move. Jesus Christ. Ok, what about Christian, former TNA world champion, used the Unprettier/face buster. Soooo every time a TNA wrestler does that they reference Christian right? I'm quite sure I've seen it done multiple times and never heard a peep from TNA commentary. Well, I have never seen that done in TNA, but if it was, that would be disrespectful too. The difference is that Christian probably doesn't care. Angle does, and I'm just saying that I completely see where Angle is coming from. Maybe you guys don't because Angle isn't a "Global Entertainer" anymore, and is therefore irrellevent in your eyes. If he just as much DARES to say anything negative about WWE and their "Entertainers", you jump at it and call him bitter/jealous/off his head. Amazing, really.
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Post by slappy on Apr 4, 2011 16:18:54 GMT -5
Ok, what about Christian, former TNA world champion, used the Unprettier/face buster. Soooo every time a TNA wrestler does that they reference Christian right? I'm quite sure I've seen it done multiple times and never heard a peep from TNA commentary. Well, I have never seen that done in TNA, but if it was, that would be disrespectful too. The difference is that Christian probably doesn't care. Angle does, and I'm just saying that I completely see where Angle is coming from. Maybe you guys don't because Angle isn't a "Global Entertainer" anymore, and is therefore irrellevent in your eyes. If he just as much DARES to say anything negative about WWE and their "Entertainers", you jump at it and call him bitter/jealous/off his head. Amazing, really. They've been called superstars for decades, the jokes recently are getting old. Why does Angle mind? Maybe he wants to stay relevant?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2011 16:20:46 GMT -5
Orton got a pin on an RKO. So he didn't technically steal Angle's finisher. Yes he did. Orton is using Angles finish. And quit it with the stupid responses and comparisons. Like I said, the leg-drop, the double axehandle, the DDT... those are all STANDARD moves. NOT FINISHES. They haven't been finishing moves in almost 20 years. People have been using Leg-drops as standard moves in forever. And they do sometimes reference that the spinebuster is AA's move.
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Post by scoobypat on Apr 4, 2011 16:21:23 GMT -5
Ok, what about Christian, former TNA world champion, used the Unprettier/face buster. Soooo every time a TNA wrestler does that they reference Christian right? I'm quite sure I've seen it done multiple times and never heard a peep from TNA commentary. Well, I have never seen that done in TNA, but if it was, that would be disrespectful too. The difference is that Christian probably doesn't care. Angle does, and I'm just saying that I completely see where Angle is coming from. Maybe you guys don't because Angle isn't a "Global Entertainer" anymore, and is therefore irrellevent in your eyes. If he just as much DARES to say anything negative about WWE and their "Entertainers", you jump at it and call him bitter/jealous/off his head. Amazing, really. Jeff Hardy does a facebuster practically every match.
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Post by slappy on Apr 4, 2011 16:21:52 GMT -5
Orton got a pin on an RKO. So he didn't technically steal Angle's finisher. Yes he did. Orton is using Angles finish. And quit it with the stupid responses and comparisons. Like I said, the leg-drop, the double axehandle, the DDT... those are all STANDARD moves. NOT FINISHES. They haven't been finishing moves in almost 20 years. People have been using Leg-drops as standard moves in forever. And they do sometimes reference that the spinebuster is AA's move. DDT and the leg drop were finishers. Sometimes not all the time.
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Post by marino13 on Apr 4, 2011 16:22:19 GMT -5
So when Kennedy hit the Kenton Bomb in WWE should they have acknowledged Jeff Hardy?
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Post by v/\v on Apr 4, 2011 16:22:22 GMT -5
Man. Kurt sounds totally insane.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2011 16:23:57 GMT -5
Well, I have never seen that done in TNA, but if it was, that would be disrespectful too. The difference is that Christian probably doesn't care. Angle does, and I'm just saying that I completely see where Angle is coming from. Maybe you guys don't because Angle isn't a "Global Entertainer" anymore, and is therefore irrellevent in your eyes. If he just as much DARES to say anything negative about WWE and their "Entertainers", you jump at it and call him bitter/jealous/off his head. Amazing, really. They've been called superstars for decades, the jokes recently are getting old. Why does Angle mind? Maybe he wants to stay relevant? It's true, you guys take WWE's side on EVERYTHING. And your last paragraph proves that. Angle not relevent, really? Because he's not in WWE? He doesn't need WWE to be one of the best in the world. Maybe if you went back to your home planet and got out of the WWE Universe, you would see that.
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Post by slappy on Apr 4, 2011 16:25:08 GMT -5
They've been called superstars for decades, the jokes recently are getting old. Why does Angle mind? Maybe he wants to stay relevant? It's true, you guys take WWE's side on EVERYTHING. And your last paragraph proves that. Angle not relevent, really? Because he's not in WWE? He doesn't need WWE to be one of the best in the world. Maybe if you went back to your home planet and got out of the WWE Universe, you would see that. And you take TNA's on everything. He'd be more relevant if he went to Japan and probably more respected.
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Post by scoobypat on Apr 4, 2011 16:25:12 GMT -5
Orton got a pin on an RKO. So he didn't technically steal Angle's finisher. Yes he did. Orton is using Angles finish. And quit it with the stupid responses and comparisons. Like I said, the leg-drop, the double axehandle, the DDT... those are all STANDARD moves. NOT FINISHES. They haven't been finishing moves in almost 20 years. People have been using Leg-drops as standard moves in forever. And they do sometimes reference that the spinebuster is AA's move. Angle slam/fall away slam/olympic slam, etc. was a mid match move for decades before Angle, Angle makes it a finisher and now no one can use it in the middle of the match? Orton put it to the use in the way wrestlers had been using it prior to Angle. It literally is exactly the same as a Leg Drop, used normally before one guy, used normally after one guy. Simply because you do not wish to address valid arguments does not make them "stupid comparisons".
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Post by @3CountRadio on Apr 4, 2011 16:27:59 GMT -5
Gonna go ahead and reissue a past question...
When Kennedy did the Kenton Bomb, should they have referenced Hardy? Hell, Hardy and Kennedy were wrestling for the same company, and he was still doing it.
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Post by scoobypat on Apr 4, 2011 16:30:02 GMT -5
They've been called superstars for decades, the jokes recently are getting old. Why does Angle mind? Maybe he wants to stay relevant? It's true, you guys take WWE's side on EVERYTHING. And your last paragraph proves that. Angle not relevent, really? Because he's not in WWE? He doesn't need WWE to be one of the best in the world. Maybe if you went back to your home planet and got out of the WWE Universe, you would see that. Honestly... yeah. Being in TNA makes a wrestler relatively irrelevant, look at their ratings. Find that hard to comprehend? Look up the definition of irrelevant. In terms of wrestling currently in the eyes of a wrestling community Kurt Angle is irrelevant. Hasn't wrestled recently, he's on a poorly rated show, so yeah... That's not to say he's bad or anything, it's just by the use of irrelevant... he is somewhat irrelevant.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2011 16:33:15 GMT -5
Yes he did. Orton is using Angles finish. And quit it with the stupid responses and comparisons. Like I said, the leg-drop, the double axehandle, the DDT... those are all STANDARD moves. NOT FINISHES. They haven't been finishing moves in almost 20 years. People have been using Leg-drops as standard moves in forever. And they do sometimes reference that the spinebuster is AA's move. Angle slam/fall away slam/olympic slam, etc. was a mid match move for decades before Angle, Angle makes it a finisher and now no one can use it in the middle of the match? Orton put it to the use in the way wrestlers had been using it prior to Angle. It literally is exactly the same as a Leg Drop, used normally before one guy, used normally after one guy. Simply because you do not wish to address valid arguments does not make them "stupid comparisons". SIGH. You guys just don't understand, do you? Somebody using a DDT = FINE. It has become a STANDARD move. It's no longer a specialty move that one person does. Somebody using a Leg Drop = FINE. It has become a STANDARD move. It's no longer a specialty move that one person does. Somebody using a Big Boot = FINE. It has become a STANDARD move. It's no longer a specialty move that one person does. Somebody using The Angle Slam = NOT FINE. Kurt Angle made the move famous, has been using it for years on-end in the WWE. And is currently an active wrestler in AMERICA. Somebody else using it and having them NOT call it the Angle Slam is a spit in the face to everything he has done for them. Somebody using the Stone Cold Stunner = NOT Fine. Like Angle, Austin made that move famous, and I'm sure nobody would dare using it in current WWE. Somebody using the Pedigree = NOT Fine. Do you think CM Punk would be allowed to use the Pepsi Plunge? NADA. Why? Because it's Triple H's move. Just like the Angle Slam is Kurt Angles. But continue on with flawed logic, stupid comparisons and idiotic comments. Clearly you're too brain-washed by WWE's "Entertainment" to even understand where Kurt Angle is coming from.
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Post by @3CountRadio on Apr 4, 2011 16:35:33 GMT -5
You seem to be avoiding the Kennedy question...shocker there. God forbid we actually admit Ken Almighty did something...*gasp*...wrong!
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Post by marino13 on Apr 4, 2011 16:36:50 GMT -5
Gonna go ahead and reissue a past question... When Kennedy did the Kenton Bomb, should they have referenced Hardy? Hell, Hardy and Kennedy were wrestling for the same company, and he was still doing it. Shh, he chooses to ignore that one.
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