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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Apr 4, 2011 15:13:10 GMT -5
Gazza: Everythings been done before as far as 'moves' go in the sports entertainment. I want to thank SCSA for the 'Thesz Press'. And I know for a fact that SCSA got the 'Thesz Press' from Dutch Mantel. Hey Randall... Hi.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 4, 2011 15:15:29 GMT -5
Angle stole his music from The Patriot. Who cares? No one owns the moves and its almost impossible to develop something new in wrestling these days as it has all been done.,
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Post by juicewinslow on Apr 4, 2011 15:15:33 GMT -5
I agree the comments are ridiculous and Angle does seem off his rocker a lot of the time. What I find funny though is the same people bashing him to death in this thread will be marking out if/when he returns to the WWE. If you dont like something someone says, it doesnt mean you have to hate them forever. I love Kurt Angle, but he's acting like an idiot. Of course I would mark out if he returned to WWE. Same goes for Jeff Harvey.
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Post by Edgeman05 on Apr 4, 2011 15:20:36 GMT -5
He stole his finish from Ken Shamrock. Pshh... Exactly and Shamrock did it better!
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Post by steveoskillz on Apr 4, 2011 15:24:29 GMT -5
He stole his finish from Ken Shamrock. Pshh... Exactly and Shamrock did it better! this
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Post by scoobypat on Apr 4, 2011 15:28:45 GMT -5
Angle stole his music from The Patriot. Who cares? No one owns the moves and its almost impossible to develop something new in wrestling these days as it has all been done., WWF actually used that music before the Patriot as well, they just used it as background filler, I was watching an old PPV (slips my mind which) and I noticed it being played in the background when a match was being hyped.
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Post by Dan on Apr 4, 2011 15:33:36 GMT -5
Wish Kurt would just come back and take his final bow in WWE before it's too late. He's my favourite of all time, and while I respect he is comfortable with his light schedule in TNA and his little Side Projects he's into, he really needs to come home, full circle, have one last short run in the WWE and a Career Ending Wrestlemania Match and get his Hall of Fame Induction. I want him to go out properly, and not just get inducted to the Hall of Fame when he's older and unable to wrestle.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2011 15:37:35 GMT -5
LOL. You guys are f-ckin' marks. Angle's point is that he is still an ACTIVE wrestler, and he turns on Raw and see's Orton using the Angle Slam Fallaway Back Slam. It's disrespectful. Not the fact that Orton's using it but the fact that they're not calling it the Angle Slam. It's BS. Angle made the move famous, he deserves credit for it.
On the Thesz Press comment, do you think Randy Orton could use the Stone Cold Stunner and they would call it a "Seated Jawbreaker"? NO.
Kurt Angle has nothing to be jealous about, he chooses to stay in TNA and WWE would take him back in a heartbeat. And that's a fact.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Apr 4, 2011 15:41:55 GMT -5
LOL. You guys are f-ckin' marks. Angle's point is that he is still an ACTIVE wrestler, and he turns on Raw and see's Orton using the Angle Slam Fallaway Back Slam. It's disrespectful. Not the fact that Orton's using it but the fact that they're not calling it the Angle Slam. It's BS. Angle made the move famous, he deserves credit for it. It's not like the Thesz Press. Do you think Randy Orton would use the Stone Cold Stunner? NO. And what would Angle possibly be jealous of? He chooses to stay in TNA. WWE would take him back in a heartbeat, and that's a fact. Perhaps the reason they're not calling it the Angle Slam is because Angle works for the competition.
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Post by slappy on Apr 4, 2011 15:42:13 GMT -5
LOL. You guys are f-ckin' marks. Angle's point is that he is still an ACTIVE wrestler, and he turns on Raw and see's Orton using the Angle Slam Fallaway Back Slam. It's disrespectful. Not the fact that Orton's using it but the fact that they're not calling it the Angle Slam. It's BS. Angle made the move famous, he deserves credit for it. It's not like the Thesz Press. Do you think Randy Orton would use the Stone Cold Stunner? NO. And what would Angle possibly be jealous of? He chooses to stay in TNA. WWE would take him back in a heartbeat, and that's a fact. Should they call McCool's finisher the Styles Clash?
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Post by scoobypat on Apr 4, 2011 15:43:56 GMT -5
Hogan is still active, from here on out no leg drops guys, extremely disrespectful if you do one...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2011 15:44:33 GMT -5
LOL. You guys are f-ckin' marks. Angle's point is that he is still an ACTIVE wrestler, and he turns on Raw and see's Orton using the Angle Slam Fallaway Back Slam. It's disrespectful. Not the fact that Orton's using it but the fact that they're not calling it the Angle Slam. It's BS. Angle made the move famous, he deserves credit for it. It's not like the Thesz Press. Do you think Randy Orton would use the Stone Cold Stunner? NO. And what would Angle possibly be jealous of? He chooses to stay in TNA. WWE would take him back in a heartbeat, and that's a fact. Should they call McCool's finisher the Styles Clash? If AJ Styles was one of the top WWE Superstars of all-time, yes.
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Post by Eat Defeat. on Apr 4, 2011 15:54:13 GMT -5
Kurt tweeted these messages this morning:
"To anyone I upset, I am sorry. I didn't watch W-mania last night. I DID get a lot of tweets during Show. About Orton, Swagger,etc.Who cares?"
"I think the whole thing is Halarious. How I upset all of U amazes me.I don't read dirt sheets,but u heard they r upset.They're 'dirt' sheets"
"I think the whole thing is Halarious. How I upset all of U amazes me.I don't read dirt sheets,but u heard they r upset.They're 'dirt' sheets"
"I Hope that W-mania was entertaining for all of You, especially 'The Rock'. Oh, and Orton-relax, I won't beat ur ass. You can use my move:)"
"2 Randy Orton's credit, I Heard He had the best match of the night. Good for You! Btw,I Never used Shamrock's finish while he still wrestled"
"There's a big difference to using a Finish somebody did b4 U, and is doing while U still Wrestle. The fact is, I don't care. Sorry everybody"
"Lastly,I just found out somebody hacked into my Twitter account.Most of those tweets weren't from me.I just found out today. I will find out"
"Who would do this? I don't know why somebody would pretend to be me. I apologize for the remarks. I'm not a twitter guy so I rarely use it."
"On a side note,Randy and I discussed the Angle Slam.I am happy Orton used my Finish.As he put it,imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"
"Good Luck Randy. Thank You for reaching out to me!!!"
"Remember that Wrestlemania is an Event bigger than all of us. If You enjoyed it, great. That's most important. Social networking is a Bitch"
"To those who Don't believe my Twitter was hacked into, I could care less. I went to bed at 9pm.I tweewted about Orton only.I didn't watch WM"
"Randy Orton and I discssed it and we are on good terms.I'm glad He used Angle Slam. Randy is the best in the World. Let's not exagerate this"
"It's over and done. I don't listen to dirt sheets and I never will. I apologize if I upset anyone with my "1" tweet. WM was reat, I heard. "
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Post by scoobypat on Apr 4, 2011 15:55:07 GMT -5
Hogan is still active, from here on out no leg drops guys, extremely disrespectful if you do one... Hogan is not active and that is a stupid comment. I mean, you guys are REALLY clutching for straws with some of these comments. "No punches, it's disrespectful"... really? You guys don't see where Angle's coming from, at all? He's talking about STANDARD moves that everybody does in a match. He's talking about a specific move he made famous. One that he has been using for YEARS. One that nobody else on the roster has ever done besides him. You don't think he atleast deserves credit for that? Hogan wrestles at least once a year, the leg drop is synonymous with Hogan, it's a common move still used, I don't see how that's grasping for straws. Also calling everyone else marks you're driving pretty hard to the hoop for Angles case. Firstly the Angle slam was used prior to Angle, it was just a typical wrestling move, not used as a finisher. It was standard and I've seen plenty of guys use it as if it was no big deal (like the leg drop). Secondly you want the WWE to acknowledge a wrestler who they had to fire because of his substance abuse issues, who went on to trash them, who continually trashes them, for a move that everyone here has claimed is quite common? ... Haha, ok.
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Post by scoobypat on Apr 4, 2011 15:57:48 GMT -5
Kurt tweeted these messages this morning: "To anyone I upset, I am sorry. I didn't watch W-mania last night. I DID get a lot of tweets during Show. About Orton, Swagger,etc.Who cares?" "I think the whole thing is Halarious. How I upset all of U amazes me.I don't read dirt sheets,but u heard they r upset.They're 'dirt' sheets" "I think the whole thing is Halarious. How I upset all of U amazes me.I don't read dirt sheets,but u heard they r upset.They're 'dirt' sheets" "I Hope that W-mania was entertaining for all of You, especially 'The Rock'. Oh, and Orton-relax, I won't beat ur ass. You can use my move:)" "2 Randy Orton's credit, I Heard He had the best match of the night. Good for You! Btw,I Never used Shamrock's finish while he still wrestled" "There's a big difference to using a Finish somebody did b4 U, and is doing while U still Wrestle. The fact is, I don't care. Sorry everybody" "Lastly,I just found out somebody hacked into my Twitter account.Most of those tweets weren't from me.I just found out today. I will find out" "Who would do this? I don't know why somebody would pretend to be me. I apologize for the remarks. I'm not a twitter guy so I rarely use it." "On a side note,Randy and I discussed the Angle Slam.I am happy Orton used my Finish.As he put it,imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" "Good Luck Randy. Thank You for reaching out to me!!!" "Remember that Wrestlemania is an Event bigger than all of us. If You enjoyed it, great. That's most important. Social networking is a Bitch" "To those who Don't believe my Twitter was hacked into, I could care less. I went to bed at 9pm.I tweewted about Orton only.I didn't watch WM" "Randy Orton and I discssed it and we are on good terms.I'm glad He used Angle Slam. Randy is the best in the World. Let's not exagerate this" "It's over and done. I don't listen to dirt sheets and I never will. I apologize if I upset anyone with my "1" tweet. WM was reat, I heard. " Ken wrestled in Kurts own current company while he was using that move... so fail on Kurts part.
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Post by slappy on Apr 4, 2011 16:00:14 GMT -5
Should they call McCool's finisher the Styles Clash? If AJ Styles was one of the top WWE Superstars of all-time, yes. But it doesn't matter to you. If they called it the Angle Slam, you'd complain that they'd disgrace Kurt Angle's name by associating it with a move done by Randy Orton. Same with the Styles Clash.
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Post by gordon on Apr 4, 2011 16:01:55 GMT -5
But the DDT point is a valid point. Roberts created that move and yet today it's used by almost everybody.
Angle should take it as a compliment, nothing less.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2011 16:02:57 GMT -5
Hogan is not active and that is a stupid comment. I mean, you guys are REALLY clutching for straws with some of these comments. "No punches, it's disrespectful"... really? You guys don't see where Angle's coming from, at all? He's talking about STANDARD moves that everybody does in a match. He's talking about a specific move he made famous. One that he has been using for YEARS. One that nobody else on the roster has ever done besides him. You don't think he atleast deserves credit for that? Hogan wrestles at least once a year, the leg drop is synonymous with Hogan, it's a common move still used, I don't see how that's grasping for straws. Also calling everyone else marks you're driving pretty hard to the hoop for Angles case. Firstly the Angle slam was used prior to Angle, it was just a typical wrestling move, not used as a finisher. It was standard and I've seen plenty of guys use it as if it was no big deal (like the leg drop). Secondly you want the WWE to acknowledge a wrestler who they had to fire because of his substance abuse issues, who went on to trash them, who continually trashes them, for a move that everyone here has claimed is quite common? ... Haha, ok. Ummm they didn't fire him, dude. He left for TNA. So you're wrong on that one. And Angle on his worst day is 10x better than Randy Orton on his best day. If Angle never gave him permission to use it, he shouldn't be using it. And if he is using it, they should call it the Angle Slam. It's his move, he made it famous... It's called RESPECT. Angle is still an active wrestler,and just because he doesn't live inside the almighty "WWE Universe", doesn't mean he doesn't exist.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2011 16:05:20 GMT -5
If AJ Styles was one of the top WWE Superstars of all-time, yes. But it doesn't matter to you. If they called it the Angle Slam, you'd complain that they'd disgrace Kurt Angle's name by associating it with a move done by Randy Orton. Same with the Styles Clash. No, I wouldn't. And that AJ comparison is stupid. He was never in WWE, they have no reason to acknowledge him. Angle has worked for them for years, is known worldwide as one of the best wrestlers in history, he deserves RESPECT when somebody is using his damn move. Jesus Christ.
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Post by scoobypat on Apr 4, 2011 16:07:52 GMT -5
Hogan wrestles at least once a year, the leg drop is synonymous with Hogan, it's a common move still used, I don't see how that's grasping for straws. Also calling everyone else marks you're driving pretty hard to the hoop for Angles case. Firstly the Angle slam was used prior to Angle, it was just a typical wrestling move, not used as a finisher. It was standard and I've seen plenty of guys use it as if it was no big deal (like the leg drop). Secondly you want the WWE to acknowledge a wrestler who they had to fire because of his substance abuse issues, who went on to trash them, who continually trashes them, for a move that everyone here has claimed is quite common? ... Haha, ok. Ummm they didn't fire him, dude. He left for TNA. So you're wrong on that one. And Angle on his worst day is 10x better than Randy Orton on his best day. If Angle never gave him permission to use it, he shouldn't be using it. And if he is using it, they should call it the Angle Slam. It's his move, he made it famous... It's called RESPECT. Angle is still an active wrestler,and just because he doesn't live inside the almighty "WWE Universe", doesn't mean he doesn't exist. My mistake, point is still valid on everything else though. And who cares if Orton isn't as technically as sound as Angle, that's highly irrelevant. Respect would be Angle acknowledging he's not the first to use that move. It is not his. Just because you make a standard move famous does not make it yours, if he created that move that's one thing. It'd be like if I started wearing blue shirts every day, everyone thought that was cool and quickly I was known for wearing blue shirts. When you saw a blue shirt, you thought of me. I wasn't the first to wear, but I did it so well, does that mean no one can wear a blue shirt after me without asking? An extremely convoluted example, but it made sense in my head.
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