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Post by Sam Hain on Apr 7, 2011 20:58:57 GMT -5
I've used one many times. I've seen it do crapthat I can't explain, but at the same time, don't believe it works the way people would like to think it does.
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Post by King Silva on Apr 7, 2011 20:59:24 GMT -5
I don't believe in this is stuff but when I was little we used to use one.
I don't know what happened to it but I don't think I would waste my time now.
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Post by MC2 on Apr 7, 2011 20:59:37 GMT -5
You have to have your hands on it because, as was said, the dead are not physical beings. They need a channel for which to relay their message. That channel is you. I've used a Ouija board before, and it is nothing to be so nonchalant about. You've never used one, you don't know. Don't just pass it off as a BS little kiddie game because it's not. Pretty much sums up the defense against Slappy's argument, thank you. |
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Post by slappy on Apr 7, 2011 21:06:07 GMT -5
You have to have your hands on it because, as was said, the dead are not physical beings. They need a channel for which to relay their message. That channel is you. I've used a Ouija board before, and it is nothing to be so nonchalant about. You've never used one, you don't know. Don't just pass it off as a BS little kiddie game because it's not. Pretty much sums up the defense against Slappy's argument, thank you. Yet I've shot it down. |
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Apr 7, 2011 21:06:13 GMT -5
Regardless whether you believe in it or not, just stay away from it.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Apr 7, 2011 21:15:16 GMT -5
You have to have your hands on it because, as was said, the dead are not physical beings. They need a channel for which to relay their message. That channel is you. I've used a Ouija board before, and it is nothing to be so nonchalant about. You've never used one, you don't know. Don't just pass it off as a BS little kiddie game because it's not. Clearly you missed the post where I stated I did use one. If they need to control something, why can't they take control of the glider? Why do they need human hands to do it? You are telling me that Parker Brothers sells a game in which during the course of playing it, we become possessed by a dead person who moves our hands? I didn't say YOU specifically didn't use one. Guess I didn't see those words that were in fact typed saying you, Slappy, specifically, have never used one. It was a general statement. Guess I need to put every single word in to make a specific statement seem general and for people to not get all defensive and automatically assume that I'm referring to them. IF you haven't used one, you don't know. You didn't shoot sh*t down with my argument. And clearly you missed the part where I, and others, have said that the dead ARE NOT PHYSICAL BEINGS! THEY HAVE NO LIMBS! They need a channel through which to get their message across! That channel happens to be those who are controlling the board. |
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Post by Halloween King on Apr 7, 2011 21:16:01 GMT -5
I would say Dont believe it, but dont doubt it.
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Post by slappy on Apr 7, 2011 21:17:41 GMT -5
Clearly you missed the post where I stated I did use one. If they need to control something, why can't they take control of the glider? Why do they need human hands to do it? You are telling me that Parker Brothers sells a game in which during the course of playing it, we become possessed by a dead person who moves our hands? I didn't say YOU specifically didn't use one. Guess I didn't see those words that were in fact typed saying you, Slappy, specifically, have never used one. It was a general statement. Guess I need to put every single word in to make a specific statement seem general and for people to not get all defensive and automatically assume that I'm referring to them. IF you haven't used one, you don't know. You didn't shoot sh*t down with my argument. And clearly you missed the part where I, and others, have said that the dead ARE NOT PHYSICAL BEINGS! THEY HAVE NO LIMBS! They need a channel through which to get their message across! That channel happens to be those who are controlling the board. You were responding to what I said and then said you. So I took that as you talking to me. Why wouldn't I? "What makes the pointer move? An effect similar to that which occurs in dowsing, known as the ideomotor effect. This is a fancy name for involuntary/unconscious movement, such as a dowser's hand flicking enough to move his stick when he passes over an area he knows has water. (In fact, Cecil has discussed this very subject.) The basic point is that your muscles can move without your consciously thinking, "move to the word YES." As the Skeptic''s Dictionary says, "suggestions can be made to the mind by others or by observations. Those suggestions can influence the mind and affect motor behavior. What is purely physiological, however, appears to some to be paranormal." In other words, if you believe this stuff and are trying to get the spirits to answer questions proving that they are all-knowing, and you ask a question that you already know the answer to (for example, "What's my father's name?"), odds are that your own hands will do the rest by spelling out your answer. That's where trying it blindfolded comes in (provided you haven't memorized the board, obviously). If it's spirits, they should be able to guide your hands no matter whether you can see or not. But if it's you doing it unconsciously, the blindfold will screw things up." |
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Post by MC2 on Apr 7, 2011 21:21:17 GMT -5
Slappy, if you stand behind what you say, how do you explain the story about the cult member I posted? I was told directly by one of the people involved, and when I was told, he seemed genuinely freaked out just repeating it.
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Post by slappy on Apr 7, 2011 21:27:40 GMT -5
Slappy, if you stand behind what you say, how do you explain the story about the cult member I posted? I was told directly by one of the people involved, and when I was told, he seemed genuinely freaked out just repeating it. People have never lied in the history of humans. So did it spell out cult sewer together or did it do it over the course of them using it? |
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Post by MC2 on Apr 7, 2011 21:41:42 GMT -5
Slappy, if you stand behind what you say, how do you explain the story about the cult member I posted? I was told directly by one of the people involved, and when I was told, he seemed genuinely freaked out just repeating it. People have never lied in the history of humans. So did it spell out cult sewer together or did it do it over the course of them using it? Cult, Sewer, Goodbye, nothing more, they asked general questions and it just went to that. |
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Apr 7, 2011 21:43:43 GMT -5
This is a situation that boils down to whether or not you believe in paranormal activities. I do, however, it seems clear, by every reply here you've made, you clearly do not, so there really is no arguing this back and forth with people who do - like myself.
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Post by slappy on Apr 7, 2011 21:44:44 GMT -5
People have never lied in the history of humans. So did it spell out cult sewer together or did it do it over the course of them using it? Cult, Sewer, Goodbye, nothing more, they asked general questions and it just went to that. Ok then. So something possessed them to tell them about something that would happen three days later to freak them out? Very suspect story. |
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Post by slappy on Apr 7, 2011 21:45:18 GMT -5
This is a situation that boils down to whether or not you believe in paranormal activities. I do, however, it seems clear, by every reply here you've made, you clearly do not, so there really is no arguing this back and forth with people who do - like myself. Again we get into the age old discussion of then what are discussion boards for. |
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Apr 7, 2011 21:47:00 GMT -5
This is a situation that boils down to whether or not you believe in paranormal activities. I do, however, it seems clear, by every reply here you've made, you clearly do not, so there really is no arguing this back and forth with people who do - like myself. Again we get into the age old discussion of then what are discussion boards for. I said arguing. This is clearly past the point of discussing when every time someone replies with something supporting Ouija boards or other paranormal instances, you are there to try and shoot it down because you don't believe in them. |
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Post by Halloween King on Apr 7, 2011 21:49:22 GMT -5
Again we get into the age old discussion of then what are discussion boards for. I said arguing. This is clearly past the point of discussing when every time someone replies with something supporting Ouija boards or other paranormal instances, you are there to try and shoot it down because you don't believe in them. Slappy just loves quoting people in hopes they will argue with him. |
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Post by slappy on Apr 7, 2011 21:56:15 GMT -5
Again we get into the age old discussion of then what are discussion boards for. I said arguing. This is clearly past the point of discussing when every time someone replies with something supporting Ouija boards or other paranormal instances, you are there to try and shoot it down because you don't believe in them. I'm clearly not arguing, I'm stating why I don't believe in them and why I find them to be ridiculous. I don't get why when someone has a different opinion it is automatically the person wanting to argue. And that statement is false. I have not replied to every person in here who talked about it nor do I reply to every single paranormal post or thread. |
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Post by Focalin on Apr 7, 2011 22:09:57 GMT -5
I was always skeptic about them until i tried them. I used them with a good friend of mine, whom we swore to legitimacy we promised each other we wouldn't move it, we wanted to talk to the paranormal for what is' worth...and man. I believe in them.
also, onetime, my buddy accidentally left the oracle on my board,..I heard a noise in my room, I paused the music I was listening to thinking someone was behind me...no one. I figured it was just my computer. So I went back to listening to music..I hear it again, and I turn around, this time, I get up...walk over and I see the oracle on the board (I didn't know it was on there until this point) and I see a glass next to it, that was broken. A piece of glass actually BROKE off the top (vertically), so nothing was even THROWN at it. and it fell into the glass. I couldn't duplicate it even if i tried.
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Post by jayswrestling on Apr 7, 2011 23:32:16 GMT -5
personally whether or not someone believes in supernatural beings/spirits etc i dont fault them i for one enjoy reallife hauntings and such...But the 1 mistake allot of people make is thinking that dabbling w/ ouji boards and other spirit communication is a game, somtimes it can be more real...
I have heard numerous paranormal experts say that using a ouji board is a bad move...espically if your a person who can easily be led into doing/believening that you are talking w/ a deceased loved one or a spirit and from there it can lead said person to dabble in more darker occult worshipping [ie not so much the ouji making the person do it but the person themselves wanting to find more answers]
also some people use the ouji board for more sinster uses then just contacting a loved one hence the demons and such...
I say whether or not you believe in this better to be safe then sorry
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2011 23:59:46 GMT -5
or hey, people that want to use it, could use it for fun and don't worry about it.
Just a thought.
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