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Post by slappy on May 10, 2011 2:39:30 GMT -5
So you are going to go back 7 years to complain about something?
If you watch the show and I don't mean watch it just so you can complain about it later, you know why they dislike each other or why they are fighting.
Matt has never needed the mic so of course when he talks he's not going to be Ric Flair or Chris Jericho.
The Corre has been constantly squashed by the Big Show for the majority of their existance.
For Nexus it was Cena/Orton because God forbid they look vulnerable to up and coming wrestlers.
For you 6/10 is like a 55/10.
Would you be ok with a Raw with no wrestling as long as it entertained you?
But that's you, find any negative and complain or if you can't find one, make them up and complain or just champion what everyone else hates. You love what the WWE does when those who love the WWE dislike what the WWE does.
I need a picture of one of the people who run TNA on screen and have "Fans vote for number one contender? They voted wrong."
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Post by No Brokeback on May 10, 2011 2:39:34 GMT -5
Why are you two arguing with each other? who cares. if you liked or disliked it, good for you. I wouldn't say we're arguing. I don't have anything against his opinions and I don't think he anything against mine. We just have two different views on things, which I don't mind discussing. |
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Post by slappy on May 10, 2011 2:41:16 GMT -5
Why are you two arguing with each other? who cares. if you liked or disliked it, good for you. Then why did you post your thoughts? Good for you. |
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Post by No Brokeback on May 10, 2011 2:47:50 GMT -5
I don't mind if Raw took more time with segments to build characters for one show every now and then, but there has to be wrestling/fighting or something going on other than that. Say, have a big main story, focus on that for the entire show, but also have matches in between to separate the backstage segments and other wrestlers reaction to each other.
I don't find negatives, these are just what stick out to me, and I think I make decent points to back them up, or at least try to. Sometimes I may have a stupid reason for why I think something is terrible and might overlook something, but I'm not disliking something for you to think I'm a troll, I'm disliking it, because everything I grew to love about WWE is almost gone. In my opinion, WWE are only targeting the kids, because it's an easy way for them to put such terrible stuff on TV every week. Kids will easily accept it.
It just instantly came to mind.
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Post by slappy on May 10, 2011 2:54:35 GMT -5
It'd be fine to focus Raw on one story and have matches in between if the story they focused on was one that will have a pay off. Rock's birthday will not have a pay off. Why haven't they thrown a birthday party for Bret Hart? Booker's birthday has happened since he came back, why didn't they throw him a party?
Times change. How do you think the Hogan generation felt about the Attitude Era at first?
You can't live in the past and want the 90s to come back.
Even if you are not being negative just to troll, your rating of the shows are certainly trolling.
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Post by KrimV on May 10, 2011 3:04:40 GMT -5
Ugh, so this how it's going to be with Punk 'till he either re-signs or leaves  ... I would bully her in the sack, lemme say that.  Sooooo hot... She's not remotely hot - she's pretty weird looking, IYAM. Dude, Michelle Trachtenberg is HOT! Not "drop dead gorgeous" but very "girl next door" kinda hot. |
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Post by No Brokeback on May 10, 2011 3:05:34 GMT -5
I don't know, I consider Hogan a big part in the chance of wrestling in the 80's and 90's. The Attitude era was just...man, I don't even know how to describe that Attitude era, but wrestling needed a change and Hogan with the NWO and Vince with the attitude era is what changed it. So, I don't think Hogan cared to much. It sounds like it was just a fun time all around to be a wrestler for everyone until WCW started it's decline or if you were Bret Hart.
I don't think I'm living in the past. I enjoyed WWE up until 2005. However, I think the whole show's feeling changed once they went on TNN. But it didn't get horrible until people like Bobby Lashley, Umaga, Eugene, Snitsky, The Spirit Squad, and various other started coming around. The characters just got progressively worse and haven't recovered.
And the fact that I can enjoy TNA doesn't mean that I'm to old to enjoy wrestling, it's just that's the style I prefer. Although, yes, it's much more messy 'throw crapat the wall' It shows me why wrestling was fun to watch to begin with.
I tried UFC, and I enjoy UFC, but it doesn't replace wrestling for me.
This is why I hated the ending of Raw so much. The last half hour was pointless. I don't know how many times I can say that. But I think Vince coming out, openly crying because The Rock is just stupid. I think it showed a more desperate side of Vince than anything else.
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Post by ctln4rko on May 10, 2011 6:05:55 GMT -5
Even though I knew Miz would win the triple threat match, the match had me on my feet. I was like "Maybe they changed their minds?" "Maybe they announced Miz vs Cena at the Key Arena/OTL to throw a curve?" That was a great match. A Ri wasn't needed, though. I loved Raw. I missed the first forty minutes because I was ordering some figures here, and when I turn my screen on, Mason Ryan vs Kane. I loved how Punk sold the KO punch. Only bad thing I can say for that is I wish The Nexus and the Corre weren't constantly buried. Advice to Barrett and CM Punk- get out while you can. ( of your groups, not WWE) I didn't see Kharma, did not like Cole and Lawler, I wish he actually went back to being a commentator 100%. Kingston and Swagger, not much there. |
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on May 10, 2011 7:44:16 GMT -5
I feel like 2010 was an awesome year for wwe. But this year IMO really sucks...hardly ever a good match on Raw (Cena/Miz was decent last week) and WM was the worst of all time IMO. I've been watching wwe since 1985..so I'm a long time fan but I'm getting a little tired of this shit
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Post by machomadness on May 10, 2011 8:04:12 GMT -5
I just want to say that every time Raw, Smackdown, Nitro or Thunder comes/came here, I ALWAYS went. Last night was the worst TV event I had ever been to. I dont know how it came out on TV but live, it was terrible.
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on May 10, 2011 9:22:03 GMT -5
The sexual tension in these last couple pages is strong!
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Post by King of Kings on May 10, 2011 9:42:52 GMT -5
I tried watching RAW, and for the first  ing time in my 20 years of watching Pro Wrestling (I'm 20 years old, I've watched since I was born basically) I switched to the Celtics/Heat game before it was over. I tried giving it a chance, I really have. There are no good heels other than Del Rio who isn't being given a chance. There are no good top heel/face feuds. You can't take someone out of the mid-card and instantly think he's a believable heel. R-Truth could work but he's being made to look like a conspiracy victim, aka a joke. WWE has had this formula for years where they're just taking people from the mid-card and turning them heel hoping they get over. Sheamus, Barrett, Miz, now Truth. Enough's enough. Turn a big face heel, like they did with Austin. That's how you create a huge character. Cena or Orton needs to be heel. But now that Orton is the only big name on Smackdown that's active, and Cena is stuck in a storyline ultimately revolving around his future with The Rock...you've ed yourself over WWE. That and there's no real authority figure. The RAW GM thing is getting old. Your top heel is Michael ing Cole. That's pathetic. All TV shows get stale eventually, sometimes they can't be saved. I don't know if WWE can. But for the first time I was bored with the show. I'm still bewildered at this myself... |
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Post by wabarrett on May 10, 2011 10:06:48 GMT -5
Things really picked up again this week as far as I'm concerned.
p.s. genuine lol at people thinking Zack Ryder got the pop of the night. He was conveniently stood next to the second most over Face in the company. That said, the crowd was damn loud last night! Kane & Big Show also got wicked reactions.
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Post by slappy on May 10, 2011 11:16:00 GMT -5
I don't know, I consider Hogan a big part in the chance of wrestling in the 80's and 90's. The Attitude era was just...man, I don't even know how to describe that Attitude era, but wrestling needed a change and Hogan with the NWO and Vince with the attitude era is what changed it. So, I don't think Hogan cared to much. It sounds like it was just a fun time all around to be a wrestler for everyone until WCW started it's decline or if you were Bret Hart. I don't think I'm living in the past. I enjoyed WWE up until 2005. However, I think the whole show's feeling changed once they went on TNN. But it didn't get horrible until people like Bobby Lashley, Umaga, Eugene, Snitsky, The Spirit Squad, and various other started coming around. The characters just got progressively worse and haven't recovered. And the fact that I can enjoy TNA doesn't mean that I'm to old to enjoy wrestling, it's just that's the style I prefer. Although, yes, it's much more messy 'throw poop at the wall' It shows me why wrestling was fun to watch to begin with. I tried UFC, and I enjoy UFC, but it doesn't replace wrestling for me. This is why I hated the ending of Raw so much. The last half hour was pointless. I don't know how many times I can say that. But I think Vince coming out, openly crying because The Rock is just stupid. I think it showed a more desperate side of Vince than anything else. I meant how do you think fans of the 80's felt tuning into the Attitude Era? I bet they hated it because it was so different from what they were used to. Yeah, that time period was not a good one. Today is much better. You can never be too old to enjoy wrestling. TNA is trying to capture the Attitude Era in that they are trying to cater to older fans with an edgy product. That's why you like it. If you took what you hate about the WWE and transplant it in TNA, actually, you'd probably like it. The first hour was pointless as well. |
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Post by juicewinslow on May 10, 2011 14:35:26 GMT -5
Things really picked up again this week as far as I'm concerned. p.s. genuine lol at people thinking Zack Ryder got the pop of the night. He was conveniently stood next to the second most over Face in the company. That said, the crowd was damn loud last night! Kane & Big Show also got wicked reactions. Dude. They were cheering for Zack Ryder. Not Cena. |
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Post by Mr.Amazing on May 10, 2011 15:16:40 GMT -5
Why are you two arguing with each other? who cares. if you liked or disliked it, good for you. Amen. |
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Post by Mr.Amazing on May 10, 2011 15:22:41 GMT -5
Even though I knew Miz would win the triple threat match, the match had me on my feet. I was like "Maybe they changed their minds?" "Maybe they announced Miz vs Cena at the Key Arena/OTL to throw a curve?" That was a great match. A Ri wasn't needed, though. I loved Raw. I missed the first forty minutes because I was ordering some figures here, and when I turn my screen on, Mason Ryan vs Kane. I loved how Punk sold the KO punch. Only bad thing I can say for that is I wish The Nexus and the Corre weren't constantly buried. Advice to Barrett and CM Punk- get out while you can. ( of your groups, not WWE) I didn't see Kharma, did not like Cole and Lawler, I wish he actually went back to being a commentator 100%. Kingston and Swagger, not much there. In my opinion the whole a ry thing is for a Miz face turn... |
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Post by wabarrett on May 10, 2011 15:48:16 GMT -5
Things really picked up again this week as far as I'm concerned. p.s. genuine lol at people thinking Zack Ryder got the pop of the night. He was conveniently stood next to the second most over Face in the company. That said, the crowd was damn loud last night! Kane & Big Show also got wicked reactions. Dude. They were cheering for Zack Ryder. Not Cena. Dude. Don't be a total idiot. |
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Post by Infinite on May 10, 2011 16:51:44 GMT -5
Things really picked up again this week as far as I'm concerned. p.s. genuine lol at people thinking Zack Ryder got the pop of the night. He was conveniently stood next to the second most over Face in the company. That said, the crowd was damn loud last night! Kane & Big Show also got wicked reactions.Yeah, that was awesome. I love them as a team, it just works really well. Plus, as displayed on Raw, they're damn over as a team. |
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on May 10, 2011 19:25:59 GMT -5
3.18 for RAW this week, which is a big drop. It faced two Overtime games in the Second Round of the Playoffs (One went to one OT, the following one went to three), which is something that is going to hurt you.
That said, you can't excuse worse ratings because of "All the other awesome stuff on at the same time", so WWE, while putting a good show on, I thought, needed to do better two weeks before a C-level Pay-Per-View.
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