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Post by joker123 on Jun 27, 2011 12:03:12 GMT -5
Here's my list of people I'd get rid of:
Anarquia - Meh
Crimson - Meh
Devon - Boring
Gunner - Meh
Jeff Hardy - More trouble than he's worth
Jesse Neal - Meh
Matt Hardy - More trouble than he's worth
Murphy - Meh
Okada - Meh
Orlando Jordan - Meh
Rob Terry - Meh
Samoa Joe - Boring
Shannon Moore - Meh
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Post by eddie eddie on Jun 27, 2011 12:35:42 GMT -5
Here's my list of people I'd get rid of: Anarquia - Meh Crimson - Meh Devon - Boring Gunner - Meh Jeff Hardy - More trouble than he's worth Jesse Neal - Meh Matt Hardy - More trouble than he's worth Murphy - Meh Okada - Meh Orlando Jordan - Meh Rob Terry - Meh Samoa Joe - BoringShannon Moore - Meh you've got Wade Barrett in your signature |
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Post by roddypiper on Jun 27, 2011 12:45:38 GMT -5
Here's my list of people I'd get rid of: Anarquia - Meh Crimson - Meh Devon - Boring Gunner - Meh Jeff Hardy - More trouble than he's worth Jesse Neal - Meh Matt Hardy - More trouble than he's worth Murphy - Meh Okada - Meh Orlando Jordan - Meh Rob Terry - Meh Samoa Joe - BoringShannon Moore - Meh you've got Wade Barrett in your signature 
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Post by joker123 on Jun 27, 2011 12:51:33 GMT -5
Here's my list of people I'd get rid of: Anarquia - Meh Crimson - Meh Devon - Boring Gunner - Meh Jeff Hardy - More trouble than he's worth Jesse Neal - Meh Matt Hardy - More trouble than he's worth Murphy - Meh Okada - Meh Orlando Jordan - Meh Rob Terry - Meh Samoa Joe - BoringShannon Moore - Meh you've got Wade Barrett in your signature Wade Barrett has potential though and can improve. Samoa Joe has peaked and become a boring fat tub of goo. Also, Wade Barrett is good on the mic. |
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Post by eddie eddie on Jun 27, 2011 13:02:15 GMT -5
you've got Wade Barrett in your signature Wade Barrett has potential though and can improve. Samoa Joe has peaked and become a boring fat tub of goo. Also, Wade Barrett is good on the mic. nooo, thats just blatantly wrong. even if Samoa Joe has peaked he could put on a match x100 better than Wade Barrett. on his decline from his peak in 2007, Joe is still soooo much better than Wade Barrett. this isn't even a gripe against Wade Barrett. that guys just a guy who wrestles. maybe he does it alright, but Joe is something special. and Wade Barrett isn't that great on the mic, dude. if he didn't have an evil accent you'd notice how generic he is. Joe is pretty simple on the mic, nothing bad but nothing great. |
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Post by joker123 on Jun 27, 2011 13:10:21 GMT -5
Wade Barrett has potential though and can improve. Samoa Joe has peaked and become a boring fat tub of goo. Also, Wade Barrett is good on the mic. nooo, thats just blatantly wrong. even if Samoa Joe has peaked he could put on a match x100 better than Wade Barrett. on his decline from his peak in 2007, Joe is still soooo much better than Wade Barrett. this isn't even a gripe against Wade Barrett. that guys just a guy who wrestles. maybe he does it alright, but Joe is something special. and Wade Barrett isn't that great on the mic, dude. if he didn't have an evil accent you'd notice how generic he is. Joe is pretty simple on the mic, nothing bad but nothing great. No, Wade's content on the mic is very good too. He's very good with words, although his accent definitely helps. And I never said Wade is a better wrestler than Samoa Joe, I just find him more entertaining. I can't remember the last great match Samoa Joe had. Maybe it's not Joe's fault, it's TNA fault. TNA haven't used him properly and now he's just a joke. Whether he quits or TNA releases him, I don't think it's the place for Joe. He should go back to the indies. |
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Post by eddie eddie on Jun 27, 2011 13:20:05 GMT -5
nooo, thats just blatantly wrong. even if Samoa Joe has peaked he could put on a match x100 better than Wade Barrett. on his decline from his peak in 2007, Joe is still soooo much better than Wade Barrett. this isn't even a gripe against Wade Barrett. that guys just a guy who wrestles. maybe he does it alright, but Joe is something special. and Wade Barrett isn't that great on the mic, dude. if he didn't have an evil accent you'd notice how generic he is. Joe is pretty simple on the mic, nothing bad but nothing great. No, Wade's content on the mic is very good too. He's very good with words, although his accent definitely helps. And I never said Wade is a better wrestler than Samoa Joe, I just find him more entertaining. I can't remember the last great match Samoa Joe had. Maybe it's not Joe's fault, it's TNA fault. TNA haven't used him properly and now he's just a joke. Whether he quits or TNA releases him, I don't think it's the place for Joe. He should go back to the indies. see, dude, now you're just backtracking. its true that Joe hasn't had that many great matches recently. he hardly gets the opportunity. in a thread in which people are discussing who should be cut and pushed you say cut Joe. rather, it should just be Joe being used properly. he is not a joke. he is a wonderful wrestler and may still be one of the best wrestlers in the world if TNA were to provide the match to light a fire under his ass. |
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Post by joker123 on Jun 27, 2011 13:25:57 GMT -5
No, Wade's content on the mic is very good too. He's very good with words, although his accent definitely helps. And I never said Wade is a better wrestler than Samoa Joe, I just find him more entertaining. I can't remember the last great match Samoa Joe had. Maybe it's not Joe's fault, it's TNA fault. TNA haven't used him properly and now he's just a joke. Whether he quits or TNA releases him, I don't think it's the place for Joe. He should go back to the indies. see, dude, now you're just backtracking. its true that Joe hasn't had that many great matches recently. he hardly gets the opportunity. in a thread in which people are discussing who should be cut and pushed you say cut Joe. rather, it should just be Joe being used properly. he is not a joke. he is a wonderful wrestler and may still be one of the best wrestlers in the world if TNA were to provide the match to light a fire under his ass. No, I'm not backtracking. You brought Wade Barrett into this for whatever reason and I'm just saying that yeah, Joe is a better wrestler than Wade but I find Wade more entertaining. And no, I still think Joe should be cut from TNA. TNA has ruined him imo. His TNA career is unsalvageable and I think he should go back to the indies because even if TNA did try to re-push him and make him a threat again, I still wouldn't be interested. Maybe it's not for the best interests of TNA, but like I said in my first post - it's who I'd get rid of. I would get rid of Samoa Joe. |
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Post by Chris Hammers on Jun 27, 2011 14:18:59 GMT -5
I can't really disagree with Situation in this argument, Eddie. As a character, Barrett is alot more entertaining than Samoa Joe. I don't really want to put that blame on Joe, though. He's been used terribly since his world title run and just became really stale.
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Post by eddie eddie on Jun 27, 2011 14:22:15 GMT -5
I can't really disagree with Situation in this argument, Eddie. As a character, Barrett is alot more entertaining than Samoa Joe. I don't really want to put that blame on Joe, though. He's been used terribly since his world title run and just became really stale. nope, you guys are wrong. even if he is more entertaining atm, Samoa Joe has a sh*tload more value. he just hasn't been handled properly. I believe he is salvageable. |
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Post by Chris Hammers on Jun 27, 2011 14:24:51 GMT -5
I can't really disagree with Situation in this argument, Eddie. As a character, Barrett is alot more entertaining than Samoa Joe. I don't really want to put that blame on Joe, though. He's been used terribly since his world title run and just became really stale. nope, you guys are wrong. even if he is more entertaining atm, Samoa Joe has a sh*tload more value. he just hasn't been handled properly. I believe he is salvageable. Can't be wrong, there's no "fact" here, just opinions. I too think Joe is salvageable, but between being kidnapped by fat ninjas, wearing those horrible baggy pants, carrying around a machete. They've done a lot of poop with him. The feud with Pope was lackluster, which it shouldn't have been because both are great workers. Joe is just lacking something right now. |
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Post by totti on Jun 27, 2011 14:30:12 GMT -5
it seems like wade is just starting to show his full potential, right now is make or break for him. he has no one to hold him back (nexus, corre) and in recent weeks i think his promos have been really good, from capitol punishment onwards.
joe has been the same character since his roh days pretty much, aside from that time period when he was a crazy sword guy with a penis on his face.
personally i think barrett is better and has more depth to him. he's got a more interesting character, better promos, more interesting in the ring for me too.
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Post by BV on Jun 27, 2011 14:31:17 GMT -5
Joe's a better wrestler, but that's pretty much all he has on Barrett currently. Contribute that to TNA using Joe horrifically.
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Jun 27, 2011 14:33:43 GMT -5
Indeed I think TNA needs to keep SOME big names. I mean RVD is old, but definitely has more left to give to the business. Kurt Angle (though older and slowing down a bit) is still one of the best wrestlers in TNA if not the business. Sting I think his time is winding down and I think they should give him a "actual" send-off this time.
I mean Hogan I think should be gone once his contract runs out & Flair as well. Neither are there to really wrestle.
Perhaps what TNA should begin to focus on is their undercard. In Chris Jericho's DVD he stated that one of the main reasons that WCW was beating WWE in the ratings was the cruiserweights (X-Division). Maybe, just maybe, if TNA would bring back these guys like Austin Starr, Low-Ki as well as put more emphasis on Samoa Joe, Daniels, Styles etc. they could at least start doing somewhat better. I think that is a place that TNA really lacks is the undercard, but just my 2 cents.
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Post by Sexy White Chocolate on Jun 27, 2011 19:10:34 GMT -5
I would keep:
AJ Styles
Alex Shelly
Amazing Red
Austin Aries
Robert Roode
Brian Kendrick
Christopher Daniels
Chris Sabin
Crimson
Pope
Eric Bischoff
Generation ME
James Storm
Jeff Jarrett
Kazarian
Kurt Angle
The Bucks
Matt Morgan
Kid Kash
RVD
Steiner
Shannon Moore
Cut the rest
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Post by jfinnomore on Jun 27, 2011 19:15:07 GMT -5
The internet would destroy TNA faster than any company could Yes...fire Hogan, Sting, The Dudleys, RVD, The Hardy's, Abyss, Taz, Steiner, Bischoff Mine as well fire Angle & Jarrett while you're at it. Then hire more former WWE jobbers and Indy jobbers. Make Samoa Joe world champ, and have nothing but "X Division" matches on the entire undercard. THAT will bring in more viewers... When are people going to come to terms with the fact that TNA will NEVER be as big or even close to as big as the WWE. They already have an established fan base, and really aren't picking up anything new. They have a low budget production, with free tickets, and hardly ever travel outside of Florida. They are used as a way for former WWE stars to wind down their careers....or to sit and wait for the WWE to call them back. Or they are used for great indy talents to get on national TV for a few years. Without NAMES, TNA will be even more worthless than some would say it is now. Guys like Hogan, Sting & RVD are HUGE for that company. Without them their top level talents are Kurt Angle & AJ Styles...and I'm sorry but 60-70% of wrestling fans have absolutely zero idea of who AJ Styles even is. TNA's "roster" is too big for such a small produced company. Half the guys are barely on TV anyway. They need to cut some of their dead weight (NOT Hogan, Sting, Bischoff, etc.) and they need to start going on the road MORE. Going back to the 6 sided ring could help too. That was truly a unique concept and made TNA stand out from the competitors. most of the under card guys are Paid Per Appearance, so they arent dead weight, they're just there. Hogan is dead weight from a financial stand point, he brings nothing to the table, can't wrestle, doesn't draw the way they hoped, and his ideas arent very good. Sting and Bish i can't argue they do their jobs and do them well so keep them around but Hogan is the definition of dead weight. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2011 10:59:59 GMT -5
Wcw beat wwe because it came on an hour earlier with a
better format and ppv quality matches for free. Jericho was
filler content. Not a main attraction. The man doesnt know
what the hell hes talking about.
Nitro revolutionized the wrestling tv show format in addition
to skewing for more mature content. Wwf saw it worked and
simply went further.
Where tna is concerned, the names that are cut from the company
will likely be people never seen on tv by the american audience.
That approximation alone nullifies the vast majority of the
prior four pages of posts and also makes the most sense.
Not that anything either of us says mattters anyway, but
people that think workers like christoper daniels draw are just
plain wrong. The man doesnt even look like a wtestler. In a fake
sport about pretend asskicking, thats a big no no.
Hogan, gives credibility for advertisers. Sting legitimizes people
he wrestles against. Morgan and rob terry look like they could be
monsters, abyss could be awesome if he shut up and was booked
right. Crimson looks dangerously bad ass, but too brittle. Roode
needs a catch phrase and will be good to go. Joe needs a diet or
a fear of tights. Angle is still awesome. Anderson could be with a
different finisher and a stronger personality and fouler language.
Aj and pope need storylines to make them legit stars. Character dev
probably wouldnt hurt either. Steiners really just enhancement talent
and the fact that most of you hate bully ray means hes doing a good job.
Gunner seems to have the most going for him to be honest.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Jun 28, 2011 11:18:06 GMT -5
I can't really disagree with Situation in this argument, Eddie. As a character, Barrett is alot more entertaining than Samoa Joe. I don't really want to put that blame on Joe, though. He's been used terribly since his world title run and just became really stale. nope, you guys are wrong. even if he is more entertaining atm, Samoa Joe has a sh*tload more value. he just hasn't been handled properly. I believe he is salvageable. Wade Barrett >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samoa Joe End of discussion. |
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Post by eddie eddie on Jun 28, 2011 11:23:13 GMT -5
nope, you guys are wrong. even if he is more entertaining atm, Samoa Joe has a sh*tload more value. he just hasn't been handled properly. I believe he is salvageable. Wade Barrett >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samoa Joe End of discussion. guy, one of your favorite women's wrestlers is Chyna. |
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Jun 28, 2011 11:28:42 GMT -5
Wade Barrett >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samoa Joe End of discussion. guy, one of your favorite women's wrestlers is Chyna. Damn straight. |
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