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Post by No Brokeback on Jul 18, 2011 22:55:29 GMT -5
Vince McMahon has been Fired, Killed and now Re-fired on TV. What's next!
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Post by juicewinslow on Jul 18, 2011 22:55:53 GMT -5
i really didnt see what was so wrong about tonight. having punk involved wouldve completely negated his wanting to leave with the belt, and his contract running out. the entire night had purpose with the tournament, because vince had to cover his ass after losing his championship the previous night... and hhh/vince left you with a cliff hanger, and an obvious storyline of a fight for control of the company, though how they go about it, is still open. not sure how anyone else wouldve booked the show, to make it better... aside from maybe a 2 hour classic between evan bourne and zach ryder.Well put. I thought it was a fantastic episode of RAW.
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Post by slappy on Jul 18, 2011 22:55:57 GMT -5
Vince McMahon has been Fired, Killed and now Re-fired on TV. What's next! When was he fired in this capacity?
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Post by noir on Jul 18, 2011 22:56:13 GMT -5
Just throwing it out there, since I liked the twist in the ending, but I would have had Triple H come out and say he called a board meeting and that he wasn't about to watch Vince make another bad decision, and be angry instead of sympathetic. I would have also had him say that they aren't crowning a new champ and that the title was gone and it was thanks to Vince. Then have HHH bring CM Punk back after a few months to unify the WWE and World titles since having 2 titles has been pointless. Hmm, I disagree. The two of them crying really struck a chord with me. It made the whole thing feel much more genuine, so much so that even now I'm questioning whether this isn't just some on screen angle, but that Vince is really stepping down as 'the guy' backstage. I also wanted to give Vince a nice big hug when I saw him well up in his little pink suit. aww.
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Post by mania on Jul 18, 2011 22:56:24 GMT -5
How the hell was it bad or even near bad? 2 hours of entertaining television, good wrestling, a lot of wrestling and a fantastic ending. Every week people bitch about wanting more wrestling and less promos. Now that it happened, they think it's bad. Christ, you people confuse me. Slapstick, it's called opinion, and in my opinion and a load of others, RAW was miserable. 2 hours of entertaining television? I must have watched the alternate RAW. good wrestling?... just because isn't "bad", doesn't make it "good". alot of wrestling? maybe, but i don't need to see 2-possibly-3 Rey Mysterio in one night... ever. fantastic ending? no. just, no. People may bitch about wanting more wrasslin' and less talkin', but you still need to do it right, and WWE sure as hell didn't do it right.
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Post by joker123 on Jul 18, 2011 22:57:06 GMT -5
What the hell did I just watch? What a fall from last night. The tournament was a bad idea since each match could only go about 5 minutes and none of them had any heat. The ending was extremely drawn out and awkward. Literally one of the worst Raws I've ever seen. I'm guessing you started watching Raw within the last week then since there have been poop Raws. 2009 for example or the Raw where every match ended with Taker and Kane beating everybody up. Yeah, that one sure beat this one. Slappy, why did you bring that Raw up? You know I hate that Raw with a fiery passion!
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Post by No Brokeback on Jul 18, 2011 22:58:07 GMT -5
Vince McMahon has been Fired, Killed and now Re-fired on TV. What's next! When was he fired in this capacity? When Austin beat Undertaker for the title at Fully Loaded 99 and he said we'd never have to see his face in the company again....
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Post by joker123 on Jul 18, 2011 22:59:13 GMT -5
When was he fired in this capacity? When Austin beat Undertaker for the title at Fully Loaded 99 and he said we'd never have to see his face in the company again.... That's not fired, he was banned from TV for 2 months. It's not the same, at all.
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Post by slappy on Jul 18, 2011 22:59:19 GMT -5
How the hell was it bad or even near bad? 2 hours of entertaining television, good wrestling, a lot of wrestling and a fantastic ending. Every week people bitch about wanting more wrestling and less promos. Now that it happened, they think it's bad. Christ, you people confuse me. Slapstick, it's called opinion, and in my opinion and a load of others, RAW was miserable. 2 hours of entertaining television? I must have watched the alternate RAW. good wrestling?... just because isn't "bad", doesn't make it "good". alot of wrestling? maybe, but i don't need to see 2-possibly-3 Rey Mysterio in one night... ever. fantastic ending? no. just, no. People may bitch about wanting more wrasslin' and less talkin', but you still need to do it right, and WWE sure as hell didn't do it right. Give me a break with the "It's my opinion shit" it's over played. It was not a bad Raw, it was not a terrible Raw and it certainly was not the worst Raw ever. This Raw gave people what they wanted, more wrestling and less promos. It gave a great ending as well. Yet a ton of people here, mostly everyone, is still talking about how terrible it was. You people will never be happy. They could air what you want and you would still bitch and moan that it was all wrong. Some of you I think are complaining just to complain and don't actually agree with what you are posting.
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Post by Focalin on Jul 18, 2011 22:59:23 GMT -5
AWESOME. as of 7/18/2011, CM Punk has not only grabbed WWE by the balls but cut its head off. Where do I think they're going with this? it's going to be a swerve. HHH will try to pursue CM Punk to resign. CM punk eventually (Reluctantly) resigns now that McMahon's out of the picture..once he does....HHH and Vince reveal it was all a swerve to get CM Punk back in the company, Punk is now face on paper.
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Post by marino13 on Jul 18, 2011 22:59:32 GMT -5
Guess nobody likes to let things play out anymore. There very well could be a bigger picture in all this. And if Punk's win & Vince's firing are just the beginning then I can't wait to see where things are going.
But that's just me. I'd rather watch it then wine about it.
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Post by johnnypoopypants on Jul 18, 2011 22:59:37 GMT -5
Did you seriously think RAW was going to be better than Money In The Bank? That PPV was insanely incredible. I was hoping at least something remotely exciting might happen. or the Raw where every match ended with Taker and Kane beating everybody up. ?
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Post by slappy on Jul 18, 2011 23:00:04 GMT -5
I'm guessing you started watching Raw within the last week then since there have been poop Raws. 2009 for example or the Raw where every match ended with Taker and Kane beating everybody up. Yeah, that one sure beat this one. Slappy, why did you bring that Raw up? You know I hate that Raw with a fiery passion! I know, it was a crapRaw. Everyone needs to know it was a crapRaw and that tonight's Raw was nowhere near that bad.
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Post by ToastMaster General on Jul 18, 2011 23:00:24 GMT -5
When was he fired in this capacity? When Austin beat Undertaker for the title at Fully Loaded 99 and he said we'd never have to see his face in the company again.... 7 year rule though, dude. This storyline can be re-hashed now for a new generation.
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Post by slappy on Jul 18, 2011 23:00:45 GMT -5
Did you seriously think RAW was going to be better than Money In The Bank? That PPV was insanely incredible. I was hoping at least something remotely exciting might happen. or the Raw where every match ended with Taker and Kane beating everybody up. ? What? That happened. Every match ended that way. That's wrong and terrible.
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Post by slappy on Jul 18, 2011 23:01:15 GMT -5
When was he fired in this capacity? When Austin beat Undertaker for the title at Fully Loaded 99 and he said we'd never have to see his face in the company again.... That's right, that's exactly like the board getting rid of Vince. I'm sorry.
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Post by No Brokeback on Jul 18, 2011 23:01:26 GMT -5
When Austin beat Undertaker for the title at Fully Loaded 99 and he said we'd never have to see his face in the company again.... That's not fired, he was banned from TV for 2 months. It's not the same, at all. No, he was fired. He was resigned by Austin (or something like that) after Stephanie went with Triple H. Vince then challenged HHH to a match and lost..craphappen, and then the McMahon-Helmsley Regime was born.
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Post by johnnypoopypants on Jul 18, 2011 23:04:47 GMT -5
What? That happened. Every match ended that way. That's wrong and terrible. What year was that?
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Post by No Brokeback on Jul 18, 2011 23:05:41 GMT -5
It's weird to see Vince and HHH crying over each other..as I watched this storyline unfold as a kid
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Post by gisles1414 on Jul 18, 2011 23:06:45 GMT -5
I love how people love to bitch and moan about everything. You wanted more wrestling? They gave you more wrestling. You didn't want the tournament to end in one night? It didn't end in one night. Hell, IMO the PG era ended last night and now we have a new chairman, and I'm pretty sure people were bitching about Vince needing to retire and step down. Just because things didn't go the way you want it doesn't automatically mean that the episode was bad and that WWE doesn't know what they're doing. This storyline of Vince leaving JUST started tonight and it's already getting crapped on. Get off your high horses and just watch the damn show and watch to see what'll happen in the following weeks.....
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