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Post by ztj_wwf on Aug 17, 2011 20:58:20 GMT -5
Imagine if they had CM Punk vs Stone Cold, The Rock vs John Cena and The Undertaker's final match all in one Wrestlemania...EPIC!
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Post by LeighD on Aug 17, 2011 21:02:42 GMT -5
No. Cena/Rock is bigger than the title. If you look at Rock/Hogan from X8 or Rock/Austin from XIX, those matches were bigger than the title matches itself. Cena and Rock dont need the effect of the title to have that big match feel. Plus like others have said, to have someone win the Rumble pretty much to just job to Taker at WM is stupid. Booker T vs. HHH - Yes Brock vs. Angle - No
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2011 21:03:48 GMT -5
With all the Rock / Cena stuff going on, i just dont see Taker retiring this year... he'll either have a match this year and next year, just next year, or miraculously he will be able to get to health to continue wrestling a little longer. I just think that Taker's retirement needs to be the highlight of which ever wrestlemania it will be at, and i dont see WWE doing it the same night as something like Rock / Cena which could steal the spotlight End the streak this year, retirement match next year? With the emphasis being put on Rock vs Cena, ending the streak would be a great surprise moment.
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Post by radicalpunk on Aug 17, 2011 21:46:20 GMT -5
why does rock/cena need to be for the title? i don't understand that at all, honestly. this feud was never about the wwe title, because it was about who was the better man. what if rock wins? does he leave with the wwe title or does he stay after wrestlemania? people talk about the prestige of the championship, but here comes the rock, undeserving of the title, wrestling john cena for the belt. it's just unnecessary to involve something that it wasn't about in the first place because it makes the feud more about the title than what it was about in the first place.
about the royal rumble idea: i don't like it. the whole idea about the royal rumble is to face the champion at wrestlemania. i think they should still be doing that. with a possible 40 man rumble this year, it makes it that more important to win, so natually, there should be a big payoff, such as a title shot. like i already mentioned, make cena/rock non-title which means cena won't have the title. about daniel bryan, have him cash in his mitb on the world champion after that match happens. this way, the royal rumble still has meaning.
that's just one idea.
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Post by awesomeallamerican on Aug 17, 2011 21:49:43 GMT -5
It's certainly an interesting idea and I do like it, but I feel like it compromises the true meaning of the Rumble which is to earn a shot to win a title. With that said, I have another idea.
Let's assume that Cena/Rock will indeed be for the WWE Championship, and let's also assume that Daniel Bryan will be true to his word and save MITB until WrestleMania. This would mean that the WWE Championship match is already set and one half of the World Heavyweight Championship is set come Rumble time.
My idea would be to find a way to get the WHC vacated by the time the Rumble comes around. This way the Rumble could be to crown a new WHC rather than to receive a title shot a la Royal Rumble 1992 when Ric Flair won the WWE Championship.
With so many Rumble winners in a row losing at Mania I think this would make the match infinitely more entertaining and meaningful.
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Post by Oskanowski on Aug 17, 2011 21:59:41 GMT -5
Kevin Nash vs Taker. ![???](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/huh.gif)
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Post by Brad on Aug 17, 2011 22:24:51 GMT -5
Great idea
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Post by CHEF on Aug 17, 2011 23:24:57 GMT -5
nope screw the rock why does he get a wwe championship match have cm punk win the rumble and face somebody or have punk face taker
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Post by CMPunkSavior on Aug 17, 2011 23:29:31 GMT -5
I think it could work but it really depends on who wins the Rumble. As it stands now the idea I really like would be to have Kane make his return at the Rumble with his mask on. Have him win and go back to his demonic, masked, destroying everyone in his path original self. If it's not that Kane then I don't want to see it. Would rather see Jericho or someone like Sheamus get a chance.
Potential Mania card:
WWE Championship: Rock vs. Cena - I agree it doesn't need to be for the title but let's assume it will be
WHC: Daniel Bryan vs. Randy Orton (c) vs. Miz - I like the idea of a triple threat so if Bryan doesn't win he can't be involved in the finish therefore it doesn't hurt his steam
Undertaker vs. Masked Kane
Punk vs. Austin - I want this more than anything
Del Rio vs. Jericho - this feud could start over who the first real undisputed champion was and then build from there or something
Sin Cara vs. Rey
Sheamus vs. Barrett
Edge & Christian vs. Cody Rhodes & DiBiase or someone - this is a stretch as Christian would have to do all the work to protect Edge but I'm sure we'd all love to see that, you can start the feud between Rhodes and Christian for the IC title and build to that
still lots of guys without anything here like Truth, Morrison, Henry, etc. that you could come up with stuff for but I think WrestleMania 28 has the potential to be really epic if done right
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Post by King Silva on Aug 18, 2011 0:20:30 GMT -5
I am not a fan of the idea.
Let Taker's final opponent get into the WM match another way.
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Post by ✖ AJ on Aug 18, 2011 1:21:09 GMT -5
I just hate the whole idea of 'Taker competing in his final WrestleMania match and having it be overshadowed.
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Post by Biff Slamkovich™ on Aug 18, 2011 1:46:02 GMT -5
The Royal Rumble has always been and should always be about the winner going on to challenge the Champion for a title at Wrestlemania.
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Post by CBT on Aug 18, 2011 1:56:41 GMT -5
all I really want to add is how much I hate the Cena-Rock match being confirmed a year in advance. I've been wanting Cena-Taker for quite some time and I have a feeling we'll never get that feud let alone that match with a general build to it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2011 3:42:37 GMT -5
The Royal Rumble has always been and should always be about the winner going on to challenge the Champion for a title at Wrestlemania. Royal Rumbles 88, 89, 90, 91 and 92 say hello ![;)](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wink.gif)
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Post by DemonsWiLL on Aug 18, 2011 6:29:03 GMT -5
I think that it might be pretty obvious that the winner of the rumble will be from smackdown and face the world champion thus leaving it open for the rock to face cena.
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Post by Dan on Aug 18, 2011 6:40:26 GMT -5
As much as John Cena vs The Rock doesn't need the Title involved, I have a feeling it will do purely to cement it as the biggest match in History. I'm pretty sure they can have the Rumble Winner face the World Heavyweight Champion, along with Daniel Bryan in a Triple Threat, and have Cena win the WWE Championship at Elimination Chamber due to help from The Rock, to set them up for a WWE Championship Match at Wrestlemania.
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Post by LeighD on Aug 18, 2011 8:17:40 GMT -5
Rock vs. Cena doesn't need the WWE title. The match itself is already big enough, but I can see why adding the WWE title to the match would make it bigger. So if their match was for the title and Daniel Bryan cashes his title shot at WrestleMania, than we already have 3 of the four slots filled for the title matches (I will assume one-on-one for the matches). I don't hate the idea of the Royal Rumble Winner facing the Undertaker, but I don't love it either. The best scenario I guess would be to have the WHC vacated by the time the Royal Rumble arrives (similiar to in 1992) and have the winner be crowned the WHC. While we're on the topic somewhat. I'd like to see Punk vs. Austin or Punk vs Undertaker at this year's WrestleMania. I mean Rock vs. Cena, Austin vs. Punk, and Undertaker vs. ![???](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/huh.gif) for his 20-0 match would be a pretty solid uppercard.
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Post by MacReady on Aug 18, 2011 8:43:13 GMT -5
I think it could work but it really depends on who wins the Rumble. As it stands now the idea I really like would be to have Kane make his return at the Rumble with his mask on. Have him win and go back to his demonic, masked, destroying everyone in his path original self. If it's not that Kane then I don't want to see it. Would rather see Jericho or someone like Sheamus get a chance. Potential Mania card: WWE Championship: Rock vs. Cena - I agree it doesn't need to be for the title but let's assume it will be WHC: Daniel Bryan vs. Randy Orton (c) vs. Miz - I like the idea of a triple threat so if Bryan doesn't win he can't be involved in the finish therefore it doesn't hurt his steam Undertaker vs. Masked KanePunk vs. Austin - I want this more than anything Del Rio vs. Jericho - this feud could start over who the first real undisputed champion was and then build from there or somethingSin Cara vs. Rey Sheamus vs. Barrett Edge & Christian vs. Cody Rhodes & DiBiase or someone - this is a stretch as Christian would have to do all the work to protect Edge but I'm sure we'd all love to see that, you can start the feud between Rhodes and Christian for the IC title and build to thatstill lots of guys without anything here like Truth, Morrison, Henry, etc. that you could come up with stuff for but I think WrestleMania 28 has the potential to be really epic if done right Masked Kane? Why? For what reason? C.M Punk would technically be the FIRST undisputed champ of this new era, so Jericho doesn't fit. Why would Edge come back to wrestle WITH Christian after he just bitched him out on the PPV, granted it's months away, but Christian is huge as a heel, why turn him face, just for a lackluster tag match at Mania. Thank god WF doesn't write for WWE. ![::)](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/rolleyes.gif) Anyway, I still stand by, don't dilute the purpose of the Rumble and tailor it to be a fight to fight ONE man, when the championships are the richest prize in the business, not a streak that means nothing outside of WWE.
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Post by The Undertaker on Aug 18, 2011 8:55:56 GMT -5
I just hate the whole idea of 'Taker competing in his final WrestleMania match and having it be overshadowed. I've said it a million times. He should wait until next year and have a match with Cena. This year Mania will make $ regardless if he performs or not. After Cena beats the Rock, Taker vs Cena will be that much bigger.
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Post by wabarrett on Aug 18, 2011 8:58:30 GMT -5
Honestly, I love the idea.
Rock/ Cena and Undertaker's final match (but with him going 20-0, not him losing, come the f*** on), would be truly great.
A big fat no way to people suggesting CM Punk, or anyone else, ends the streak.
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