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Post by Hulkamaniac on Sept 4, 2011 15:54:00 GMT -5
Let's assume for the sake of argument that he did indeed find metal objects in people (a claim which is highly questionable). It's still a huge leap to claim that aliens put them there. There are several other possibilities that are far more plausible and jump immediately to mind. If he is to be believed (which he may or may not), certain purported factors of the object and the way it was connected would be impossible to replicate on Earth. So, if he found these objects implanted in people, and if they really have the properties he claims, there really isn't a logical explanation. So, it's really all or nothing here IMO. Not really. Let's say, just for the sake of argument, that he's 100% correct. He has found metallic objects inside a person's body that contain metals that don't exist on Earth. (I confess I don't understand the latter part of that sentence. It's not like we have tons of experience working with metals that don't exist on Earth.) Even then, we have to examine the possibility that this person's body is somehow creating metals as a by-product of some process in the body. Everyone's body chemistry is different so this is a possibility that's worth exploring. Even if we rule that out completely, it still doesn't prove anything at all. We simply have a phenomena that we can't explain at present. Nothing more and nothing less.
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Post by LA Times on Sept 4, 2011 16:09:02 GMT -5
It's too bad we can't see pics of this planet. This is very interesting stuff. Have they ruled out the possibility of this planet being inhabited? Wouldnt surprise me if it was. There are billions of galaxies out there. There cant be just one planet with forms of life.
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Post by wweuniverse47871 on Sept 5, 2011 8:38:02 GMT -5
www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Element_115.htmGo to this page and read about element 115. It has been proven to be a stable and it has been proven to exist with science. Barack Obama is not allowed to just make a decision whenever he wants, You saw what happened to JFK when he was dealing with things nobody else would, They didn't like it so what happened? The GOVERNMENT most likely killed him. Barack Obama does not get to make decisions that will possibly change the future of our planet. We have most likely made air crafts that can travel that, At Area 51 it has been rumored that they have been reverse engineering alien technology. Go onto Youtube and search "UFO Hunters Area 51 Revealed" They have proof in that they we HAVE made flying saucers. Silly me. I had forgotten the "proof" on the wacky websites and the youtubes. You do realize that Bob Lazar has been thoroughly discredited and doesn't even have any crediblity in the UFO community right? Edit again: A great article by Stanton Friedman on Bob Lazar. Friedman is a leading figure in the UFO field and believes the US really did recover an alien spacecraft at Roswell. He's not a skeptic at all. www.stantonfriedman.com/index.php?ptp=articles&fdt=1997.12.15Fun fact to prove you wrong and to prove that Bob Lazar did work at Area 51. In a episode of UFO Hunters they investigated Bob Lazar, They found the phone books for his field and their location and called the number, They denied him ever being at that location ever, Why was he in their phone book then? I wasn't sure if it was true or not so I did some research and I found their phone books and surely enough Bob Lazar was in it. I'll try find it for you before you call him a lier again?
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Sept 5, 2011 8:59:23 GMT -5
Silly me. I had forgotten the "proof" on the wacky websites and the youtubes. You do realize that Bob Lazar has been thoroughly discredited and doesn't even have any crediblity in the UFO community right? Edit again: A great article by Stanton Friedman on Bob Lazar. Friedman is a leading figure in the UFO field and believes the US really did recover an alien spacecraft at Roswell. He's not a skeptic at all. www.stantonfriedman.com/index.php?ptp=articles&fdt=1997.12.15Fun fact to prove you wrong and to prove that Bob Lazar did work at Area 51. In a episode of UFO Hunters they investigated Bob Lazar, They found the phone books for his field and their location and called the number, They denied him ever being at that location ever, Why was he in their phone book then? I wasn't sure if it was true or not so I did some research and I found their phone books and surely enough Bob Lazar was in it. I'll try find it for you before you call him a lier again? It's not just me calling him a liar. Stanton Friedman called him a liar. If you'd bother to read the link I posted you'll find that he specifically addresses the phone book thing in there. Lazar was a contractor there, not an employee. He would not have had access to the top secret stuff he claims he had access to. Once again, Friedman is not a skeptic. He's a UFO true believer.
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Post by wweuniverse47871 on Sept 5, 2011 9:13:56 GMT -5
Fun fact to prove you wrong and to prove that Bob Lazar did work at Area 51. In a episode of UFO Hunters they investigated Bob Lazar, They found the phone books for his field and their location and called the number, They denied him ever being at that location ever, Why was he in their phone book then? I wasn't sure if it was true or not so I did some research and I found their phone books and surely enough Bob Lazar was in it. I'll try find it for you before you call him a lier again? It's not just me calling him a liar. Stanton Friedman called him a liar. If you'd bother to read the link I posted you'll find that he specifically addresses the phone book thing in there. Lazar was a contractor there, not an employee. He would not have had access to the top secret stuff he claims he had access to. No I didn't read it, I just thought it would be bogus. I gave it a read then and it made a very good arguement, I'm going to investigate this and then I will decide MY oppinion. I have a question for you. Area 51, Why is it so top secret? And whenever the Government is asked about it why do they say no comment? What is going on in there that is so top secret that deadly force is allowed on trespassers? Answer me those please
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Sept 5, 2011 9:23:35 GMT -5
It's not just me calling him a liar. Stanton Friedman called him a liar. If you'd bother to read the link I posted you'll find that he specifically addresses the phone book thing in there. Lazar was a contractor there, not an employee. He would not have had access to the top secret stuff he claims he had access to. No I didn't read it, I just thought it would be bogus. I gave it a read then and it made a very good arguement, I'm going to investigate this and then I will decide MY oppinion. I have a question for you. Area 51, Why is it so top secret? And whenever the Government is asked about it why do they say no comment? What is going on in there that is so top secret that deadly force is allowed on trespassers? Answer me those please Stanton Friedman is a UFO true believer. He thinks that the feds did indeed recover an alien spacecraft at Roswell. IMO, he's a nutcase, but he's certainly not a skeptic. He thinks Lazar is a big fat liar and he's done research into Lazar's claims. Why is Area 51 so top secret? Former Area 51 employees tell us (and the government has basically acknowledged) that they're doing top secret weapons research there. More specifically they're doing research on aircraft that are invisible to radar. We know the SR-71 and the stealth bomber were both developed there. Interestingly enough at the same time they were developing the B-2 at Area 51, people reported sightings of "triangle shaped craft" in the area. All this information is now declassified. The feds are developing weapons out there. Obviously that's going to be top secret as they don't want any of our enemies or even any of our allies to know what we're doing. I'm sure every country in the world has a similar facility somewhere.
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Post by wweuniverse47871 on Sept 5, 2011 9:41:09 GMT -5
No I didn't read it, I just thought it would be bogus. I gave it a read then and it made a very good arguement, I'm going to investigate this and then I will decide MY oppinion. I have a question for you. Area 51, Why is it so top secret? And whenever the Government is asked about it why do they say no comment? What is going on in there that is so top secret that deadly force is allowed on trespassers? Answer me those please Stanton Friedman is a UFO true believer. He thinks that the feds did indeed recover an alien spacecraft at Roswell. IMO, he's a nutcase, but he's certainly not a skeptic. He thinks Lazar is a big fat liar and he's done research into Lazar's claims. Why is Area 51 so top secret? Former Area 51 employees tell us (and the government has basically acknowledged) that they're doing top secret weapons research there. More specifically they're doing research on aircraft that are invisible to radar. We know the SR-71 and the stealth bomber were both developed there. Interestingly enough at the same time they were developing the B-2 at Area 51, people reported sightings of "triangle shaped craft" in the area. All this information is now declassified. The feds are developing weapons out there. Obviously that's going to be top secret as they don't want any of our enemies or even any of our allies to know what we're doing. I'm sure every country in the world has a similar facility somewhere. I have one 30 - 40 minutes away from me apparently ^.^ I did some reading up on it and apparently US and Australian soldiers are at the facility.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Sept 5, 2011 9:50:32 GMT -5
It would not surprise me if we are working with some other government on some of our top secret projects. Militaries historically are known for being secretive.
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