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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Sept 8, 2011 17:04:47 GMT -5
Dude, who do you think you're talking to? You don't me, I'm sure you don't know many who post here. I'm not some kid who since in front of his PC all day chatting about wrestling. I'm an adult who goes out and deals with people, ALL KINDS of people for 10-12 hours a day. I know how the world works. What's this disrespect you speak of? Disrespect? Because I'd like to see a guy who clearly can't get it right on his own forced into position of correction for more than 10 days? Let me tel you something. If this guy has the balls to do what he did at Victory Road, than he doesn't respect us. He doesn't respect YOU. The fans. The people who put the money in his pocket so could dye his goofy hair to begin with. He's shown time and time again that he doesn't appreciate any of the opportunities that his fans have given him, or the company he works for. F*** what he says. Actions speak louder. As far as Whinehouse and Cobaine goes, they reaped a life of turmoil and addiction. Their deaths were a result of such. Ha. Who am I speaking to you ask? The kind of person who thinks a man deserves to rot in jail for costing him $40. Yes, what Jeff did was disrespectful to the fans, but he has been out of public eye for months. The sad thing is, even if Victory Road never happened, this story would still have broke. And people like you would still wish a longer sentance of misery on Jeff Hardy simply because he is battling his personal demons just like every other human being. But hey, hes a pro wrestler, therefore you have the right to judge. I figured an 'adult' like yourself would be able to understand my frustration. But I guess age and maturity means nothing when your mind is already warped with moral hierchy. I don't care whatever he does outside of the ring, that's his life, and I don't need to see him on jail because he showed up high at a PPV, but you first mentioned we bashed him even though he entertained us and that had nothing to do with his sentence. Just saying.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Sept 8, 2011 17:11:10 GMT -5
Dude, who do you think you're talking to? You don't me, I'm sure you don't know many who post here. I'm not some kid who since in front of his PC all day chatting about wrestling. I'm an adult who goes out and deals with people, ALL KINDS of people for 10-12 hours a day. I know how the world works. What's this disrespect you speak of? Disrespect? Because I'd like to see a guy who clearly can't get it right on his own forced into position of correction for more than 10 days? Let me tel you something. If this guy has the balls to do what he did at Victory Road, than he doesn't respect us. He doesn't respect YOU. The fans. The people who put the money in his pocket so could dye his goofy hair to begin with. He's shown time and time again that he doesn't appreciate any of the opportunities that his fans have given him, or the company he works for. F*** what he says. Actions speak louder. As far as Whinehouse and Cobaine goes, they reaped a life of turmoil and addiction. Their deaths were a result of such. Ha. Who am I speaking to you ask? The kind of person who thinks a man deserves to rot in jail for costing him $40. Yes, what Jeff did was disrespectful to the fans, but he has been out of public eye for months. The sad thing is, even if Victory Road never happened, this story would still have broke. And people like you would still wish a longer sentance of misery on Jeff Hardy simply because he is battling his personal demons just like every other human being. But hey, hes a pro wrestler, therefore you have the right to judge. I figured an 'adult' like yourself would be able to understand my frustration. But I guess age and maturity means nothing when your mind is already warped with moral hierchy. Didn't cost me anything and I was still disgusted. It has nothing to do with money. I don't think I'm better than anyone else. I have to chuckle at the fact that you think I'm not mature because I think he deserves more jail time. Real talk. I know what drugs can do to individuals and families. It happened to mine. Ten days in jail isn't going to stop some junkie from making selfish decision after selfish decision. There are people out there who have it way worse than Hardy. People who deserve to be defended. And yes, I have the right to judge him based on what I've seen. This has nothing to do with wrestling, or me being a fan even. Wrestling is what he does for a living. It's how he makes money. Not being able to pull yourself out of the gutter for the sake of your job, your source of income speaks volumes to the type of person you are. That goes for anyone walking this green Earth. Not just wrestlers.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2011 17:12:16 GMT -5
Wow. Its amazing how much disrespect some of you lot have. It really speaks volumes about your maturity levels and sense of moral hierchy. Try turning off your computer for a few years, and stop watching wrestling. Then get back into wrestling and come back on this forum and read conversations like this.. Thats what I did last year, and it opened my eyes to quite alot. It made me realise that sometimes peoples opinions on these forums can be so distorted from the world they are supposed to be living in. How many people here think Amy Winehouse, Kurt Cobain etc deserved to die for being junkies? Its the same theory, like I said before, I dont understand why any WWE/TNA fan would perfer to see Hardy in jail than in the ring. What kind of martyrs are you? Sort it out. These are the kinds of comments that make you seem condescending. Really. You say condescending, I say correct. I guess thats the whole point of opinionated discussion. Try not to take it personally for christ sake, I have just as much right to be pissed off with the so called fans who judge Jeffs life choices as you have to be pissed off at Jeffs lifestyle. You have the right to boo him, stop watching TNA, slate him on the internet etc.. But the point I was trying to make in the first place is being angry that he isnt spending a massive stretch in prison is a step too far in my eyes. Simply because that is a situation that involves his personal life and family life. I, as a fellow fan, have every right to be offended by these people.
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Sept 8, 2011 17:15:07 GMT -5
These are the kinds of comments that make you seem condescending. Really. You say condescending, I say correct. I guess thats the whole point of opinionated discussion. Try not to take it personally for christ sake, I have just as much right to be pissed off with the so called fans who judge Jeffs life choices as you have to be pissed off at Jeffs lifestyle. You have the right to boo him, stop watching TNA, slate him on the internet etc.. But the point I was trying to make in the first place is being angry that he isnt spending a massive stretch in prison is a step too far in my eyes. Simply because that is a situation that involves his personal life and family life. I, as a fellow fan, have every right to be offended by these people. I don't think the problem is much about it being ten days, but more than it took then that long only for it to be just 10 days and end this thing a long time ago.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2011 17:19:46 GMT -5
Of course this becomes a thread about his fans defending him. Crime is crime.....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2011 17:20:44 GMT -5
All Im saying is I hope Jeff gets another chance to perform in TNA. And I REALLY hope he proves the prejustice 'fans' wrong..
At the end of the day, everybody involved in this conversation will be tuning into Impact when he returns, regardless of how they feel about TNA giving him another chance.. And thats the kind of exposure TNA cannot afford to pass up.
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Post by Johnny Wrestling on Sept 8, 2011 17:23:06 GMT -5
All Im saying is I hope Jeff gets another chance to perform in TNA. And I REALLY hope he proves the prejustice 'fans' wrong.. At the end of the day, everybody involved in this conversation will be tuning into Impact when he returns, regardless of how they feel about TNA giving him another chance.. And thats the kind of exposure TNA cannot afford to pass up. I'm really being serious about it man, I won't be watching TNA ever again. He has been given a lot of chances not only on TNA way before this, but on WWE too. If you are a fan, well, then you should be happy he will get yet another chance, and I'm sure as hell many others are happy just like you, but there will be others like me that are still sour on this, so I don't think TNA wins at all. As far as I see it, there are more haters than lovers of Jeff, or at least that's just talking about the internet community.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Sept 8, 2011 17:23:39 GMT -5
All Im saying is I hope Jeff gets another chance to perform in TNA. And I REALLY hope he proves the prejustice 'fans' wrong.. At the end of the day, everybody involved in this conversation will be tuning into Impact when he returns, regardless of how they feel about TNA giving him another chance.. And thats the kind of exposure TNA cannot afford to pass up. I...will not. When I leave this thread I'll continue to forget that dump exists. Like I said, me thinking he deserves more jail time has nothing to do with wrestling. It has to do with the things that I've seen with my own eyes. My personal experiences.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2011 17:32:26 GMT -5
All Im saying is I hope Jeff gets another chance to perform in TNA. And I REALLY hope he proves the prejustice 'fans' wrong.. At the end of the day, everybody involved in this conversation will be tuning into Impact when he returns, regardless of how they feel about TNA giving him another chance.. And thats the kind of exposure TNA cannot afford to pass up. I...will not. When I leave this thread I'll continue to forget that dump exists. Like I said, me thinking he deserves more jail time has nothing to do with wrestling. It has to do with the things that I've seen with my own eyes. My personal experiences. Trust me, Ive also been through 'personal experiences' that heavily motivate my opinion on this kind of thing. As much as I am sticking up for Jeff Hardy he does need to sort himself out. The difference is, as a fan of the business, I am willing to give him another chance as long as he proves himself. I am also a desparate TNA fan. The company would benefit from Jeff Hardys star-power, wether hes doped up or not. Lets face it, its not like he can possibily make Impact any worse. And if he dosent prove himself and he find himself in more trouble, well, he can join his brother in the retirement crackden for all I care.. But I wont be taking any sort of pleasure in bashing him because I would have witnessed the fall of one of wrestling true talents.
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Post by Gazza on Sept 8, 2011 17:37:31 GMT -5
It took all that time to give him 10 days? What was the point in it all.
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on Sept 8, 2011 17:45:55 GMT -5
Of course this becomes a thread about his fans defending him. And CM Showstopper hasn't even posted here yet.
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Post by Tye Hyll on Sept 8, 2011 17:58:49 GMT -5
10 days on 2 felony charges. AMERICA
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Post by thespecialone on Sept 8, 2011 18:01:14 GMT -5
He got caught with Drugs, and its took 2 YEARS to sentence him to 10 days in jail, people have a right to be pissed. Where i live some famous tv guys and lawyers took 10 years to be put in jail. And they are event there yet cause they still have a few courts where to take the case. You know what was their crime? They were pedophiles. So 2 years isnt much for a guy who basically carried drugs around. I am not standing up for the guy at all but wishing for someone to be put in jail is very very sad. All i feel for Hardy is pitty. Hope the guy can be back on track.
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Post by Lk™ on Sept 8, 2011 18:05:28 GMT -5
Most other people wouldve faced more jail time and a smaller fine. He bought his way out of a longer sentence. I hope he goes yo rehab, though
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2011 18:12:29 GMT -5
Hardy gets 10 days, and you guys think thats pathetic..? As an adult who proudly proclaims to be a part of the IWC, I am heavily offended.. That man has risked his life, his health and his career for your viewing pleasure for near on 15 years. He appears in court charged for something im sure he must regret, with his future completely in the balance. He gets a limited sentance, and you people think you have the right to be angered and demand the book is brought down harder..? Nah, the only thing pathetic about this is the geeky virgin smarks, who have probabily never even had a detention at school, sitting behind their computer screen and wishing for Jeff Hardy to be separated from his family and spend a larger portion of his life in jail. That is seriously f*cked up to wish that upon anybody. Your the same people who think you have the right to smear Chris Benoits name. Your the same people who think you have the right to stalk and hassle wrestlers. And now, your the people who think you have the right to opinionise if somebody goes to jail or not. Have any of you lot ever been to prison before? I heavily doubt it, and I would be extremely surprised if I was proven wrong. Im not even that much of a Hardy fan, but I swear if I met some of you people in person, I would love to f*ck you up. Simply because if you have such a grim view of an entertainers downfall, it speaks volumes about how prejustice you must be to the general public. Not that anybody would want to be friends with such evil little sh*ts anyways. This isnt even about being a 'wrestling fan', this is about somebodys life. I know dissing the Hardys is the in-thing at the moment (alongside Zack Ryder and TNA bashing) but some of you need to know where to draw the line. Real talk. Sort your lives out. Or maybe - just maybe - we want to see people punished due to their crime, not their fame? 10 days in jail, "whenever he can" isn't a fair punishment. [/b] That's exactly what i was thinking. Why is it if some random nobody did this he would be in jail in no time have a huge sentence and the court case would of never been dragged out this long. But because its Jeffy Hardy a former WWE wrestler and current TNA star he is slapped on the wrist and 10 days and 100 G's he gotta pay and then people wonder why the world is Effed up.
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Post by Almost Like Flacco on Sept 8, 2011 18:39:31 GMT -5
All Im saying is I hope Jeff gets another chance to perform in TNA. And I REALLY hope he proves the prejustice 'fans' wrong.. At the end of the day, everybody involved in this conversation will be tuning into Impact when he returns, regardless of how they feel about TNA giving him another chance.. And thats the kind of exposure TNA cannot afford to pass up.All I'm going to say is that 10 days and all that probation is not going to help him in the least.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2011 19:44:15 GMT -5
All Im saying is I hope Jeff gets another chance to perform in TNA. And I REALLY hope he proves the prejustice 'fans' wrong.. At the end of the day, everybody involved in this conversation will be tuning into Impact when he returns, regardless of how they feel about TNA giving him another chance.. And thats the kind of exposure TNA cannot afford to pass up.All I'm going to say is that 10 days and all that probation is not going to help him in the least. Use all the irrelevant gif images you want. The fact remains that Jeff Hardy is one of the worlds most popular wrestlers. He may have turned alot of his fans against him, but he will be welcomed back with open arms. Any publicity is good publicity, even Russo knows that.
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Post by roddypiper on Sept 8, 2011 19:47:54 GMT -5
All I'm going to say is that 10 days and all that probation is not going to help him in the least. Use all the irrelevant gif images you want. The fact remains that Jeff Hardy is one of the worlds most popular wrestlers. He may have turned alot of his fans against him, but he will be welcomed back with open arms. Any publicity is good publicity, even Russo knows that. He was at point... not so much anymore.. TNA did not and has not used him right at all.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Sept 8, 2011 19:55:37 GMT -5
How many people here think Amy Winehouse, Kurt Cobain etc deserved to die for being junkies?. Kurt Cobain is a ing icon on WFigs. We had a 20 page thread about how sad everyone was when Amy Winehouse died. Just a bunch of hypocrites. Of course this becomes a thread about his fans defending him. And CM Showstopper hasn't even posted here yet. Aww...how sweet. I was waiting to see how many posts before my name HAD to be introduced into it. I'm not getting into a pissing match about this anymore. There are VERY and I mean VERY few people who actually want to have intelligent discussion. 95% of haters in this thread are just trying to agitate forum members. B/c its ..... kewl.I have 2 things I would like to post. First, the article in the Fayetteville Observer was very interesting of a read. fayobserver.com/articles/2011/09/08/1121382.aspx?sac=HomeAnd I quote: "Assistant District Attorney Warren McSweeney said the raid came after employees at a Fayetteville FedEx distribution center called police about a suspicious package. The package was addressed to Hardy from a fan in Florida. It contained a Maxwell House coffee can filled with 262 prescription hydrocodone pain killers. Police resealed the package and had the pills delivered to Hardy at his home. When he accepted the package, Moore County sheriff's deputies raided the house and found other drugs, as well." So did the "fan" get busted as well? Probably not. I said I always found the whole raid idea extremely fishy and I found it even MORE after reading this. Package was suspicious? How so? Package had 262 pills in a coffee can. It was addressed, delivered and signed for by Jeff Hardy. So if I am sitting at home and FedEX delivers a package to me and I sign for it and cops raid my home, open my package and find 262 pills of pain killers.......I GOTO JAIL!?!!?!? WTF?!??! HUH!?!?! Does anyone here actually refuse FedEx deliveries from addresses you do not know? Let alone a famous person who has fans sending him fan mail all the time. Let me make it perfectly clear, before someone jumps to assumptions.....I in no way, shape or form, believe these werent his. He has serious issues with his back and a nasty case of restless leg syndrome. I actually suffer from a lot of the same things he does, but its not daily like him. Mine comes from time to time. I goto the hospital and I get a prescription for percosets and I get loaded on them. Its the only thing that remotely dulls the pain. So I think its a safe assumption, they were his and the "fan" is but a contact that could supply. But pain killers are REALLY easy to get in any wrestling locker room, including a WWE one. My second point I'd like to bring up is the people pissing and moaning about his 10 day sentence. Let me take some of the arguments that were thrown at me concerning Michael Vick, who many of you know that I despise with all my heart and hopes he dies. "Vick served his time and now leave him alone. Its done and over with. No need to rehash." So I am guessing WFigs will apply this to Jeff Hardy, right? I mean I constantly get told this and eyes roll when I bring it back up. And do I do it a lot? Oh yeah. And I am sure it gets annoying. So in 10 days....Wfigs is just going to leave Jeff Hardy alone. No need to rehash, right guys? In addition, 10 days is a VERY light sentence. Clearly, the prosecution knew they had a losing case and the defense knew they had some guilt on their hands, wanted to end this 2 year battle and took the very favorable deal. Jeff is rid of this. Jeff gets the light sentence. And the prosecution gets a win. A pathetic win, but a win. Let me take a page out of the Book of R Truth....Dont Be Booing Jeff Hardy. You Oughta Be Booing The Prosectution!
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Post by Tye Hyll on Sept 8, 2011 19:59:32 GMT -5
I could care less about the drugs, getting off of 2 felonies he pled guilty to is ridiculous.
For the record I hate Amy Winehouse and Kurt Cobain and its their fault they died, come at me.
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