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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Sept 11, 2011 16:06:42 GMT -5
Not sure why people dont understand that TNA cannot afford to be picky with PR. Many have agreed that TNA is but a glorified indy fed. People on the indys get busted constantly for crapand yet still get booked, still get cheered, etc. If TNA was to get rid of guys like Angle and Hardy, they might as well close the damn doors.  They arent big enough to be making moves like this. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2011 16:14:16 GMT -5
I'm not going to get all angry and poop. But what has Jeff Hardy ever done to you personally? He' just another man with demons. The only difference is he has internet geeks judging every thing he does. By internet geeks I mean the dirtsheets.
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Post by jfinnomore on Sept 11, 2011 18:59:47 GMT -5
Not sure why people dont understand that TNA cannot afford to be picky with PR. Many have agreed that TNA is but a glorified indy fed. People on the indys get busted constantly for poop and yet still get booked, still get cheered, etc. If TNA was to get rid of guys like Angle and Hardy, they might as well close the damn doors. They arent big enough to be making moves like this. has to say something if you have to rely on career  ups or your business will go under. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Sept 11, 2011 23:09:51 GMT -5
Not sure why people dont understand that TNA cannot afford to be picky with PR. Many have agreed that TNA is but a glorified indy fed. People on the indys get busted constantly for poop and yet still get booked, still get cheered, etc. If TNA was to get rid of guys like Angle and Hardy, they might as well close the damn doors. They arent big enough to be making moves like this. has to say something if you have to rely on career ups or your business will go under. These are the same guys who once reigned supreme in WWE. You make it sound like TNA is the only company that does it? Difference is.....WWE CAN afford to make a PR move and usually just chooses not too. You make it sound like TNA is bigger than what they are. People take shots at TNA all the time, and many being rightfully so, but they hypocritical statements like this. Please. I guess you want every indy company to close up shop too, as you preach from your pulpit. There are athletes who have done FAR worse than either Hardy or Angle and yet they continue to play in the NFL, MLB, etc. And we cheer for them. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2011 0:40:45 GMT -5
I really hope he's clean. I like the guy but his constant drug abuse makes me dislike him more and more.
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Post by jfinnomore on Sept 12, 2011 22:33:34 GMT -5
has to say something if you have to rely on career ups or your business will go under. These are the same guys who once reigned supreme in WWE. You make it sound like TNA is the only company that does it? Difference is.....WWE CAN afford to make a PR move and usually just chooses not too. You make it sound like TNA is bigger than what they are. People take shots at TNA all the time, and many being rightfully so, but they hypocritical statements like this. Please. I guess you want every indy company to close up shop too, as you preach from your pulpit. There are athletes who have done FAR worse than either Hardy or Angle and yet they continue to play in the NFL, MLB, etc. And we cheer for them. how was i preaching? it was an observation, but i should of known a Hardy sheep would turn it into something it was not, wait not a sheep more of a cow being lead to slaughter. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Sept 12, 2011 22:51:00 GMT -5
These are the same guys who once reigned supreme in WWE. You make it sound like TNA is the only company that does it? Difference is.....WWE CAN afford to make a PR move and usually just chooses not too. You make it sound like TNA is bigger than what they are. People take shots at TNA all the time, and many being rightfully so, but they hypocritical statements like this. Please. I guess you want every indy company to close up shop too, as you preach from your pulpit. There are athletes who have done FAR worse than either Hardy or Angle and yet they continue to play in the NFL, MLB, etc. And we cheer for them. how was i preaching? it was an observation, but i should of known a Hardy sheep would turn it into something it was not, wait not a sheep more of a cow being lead to slaughter. You want a struggling company, trying to take the next step to become a legit contender against WWE and have them release all brand recognition and household names b/c drug and alcohol issues. You preach b/c its easy for you to stand around and mouth off cuz its not your money on the line. Is there any reason to dignify calling me a sheep? Seriously? The biggest free thinker on WFigs is a sheep. Its like calling water dry or the sky purple with diamond polka dots. I call it....like I see it. I dont follow the masses and I dont try and fit in. If I what I say is agreed by the masses, cool. If its not, thats cool too. |
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Post by Thick Justice on Sept 12, 2011 22:54:59 GMT -5
The way I see it is Hardy already did time tna whise. Kurt Angle has had several chances and repeated DUI's which he usually somehow gets out of is making tna look bad. Atleast have him lose the title as a punishment. They can't even do that. When TNA repeatedly has there world champion be a guy with legal troubles it makes them look bad. They have RVD, Matt Morgan, Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Pope, Hernandez, Robert Roode, Kaz, Abyss, Sting, Anderson, etc. all deserving of main event pushes they need to start pushing guys who aren't going to get them looking like a company of hasbeens and druggies.
The thing keeping TNA from being a success is bad booking, bad storylines, and constant use of unclean finishes. Like over 80% of TNA world title matches have unclean finishes. If your gonna have the face win then let them win cleanly instead of botched interference. I mean who comes out better when a heel loses even after interference?
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Post by Tyler Black on Sept 13, 2011 17:43:14 GMT -5
Hardy gets 10 days, and you guys think thats pathetic..? As an adult who proudly proclaims to be a part of the IWC, I am heavily offended.. That man has risked his life, his health and his career for your viewing pleasure for near on 15 years. He appears in court charged for something im sure he must regret, with his future completely in the balance. He gets a limited sentance, and you people think you have the right to be angered and demand the book is brought down harder..? Nah, the only thing pathetic about this is the geeky virgin smarks, who have probabily never even had a detention at school, sitting behind their computer screen and wishing for Jeff Hardy to be separated from his family and spend a larger portion of his life in jail. That is seriously f*cked up to wish that upon anybody. Your the same people who think you have the right to smear Chris Benoits name. Your the same people who think you have the right to stalk and hassle wrestlers. And now, your the people who think you have the right to opinionise if somebody goes to jail or not. Have any of you lot ever been to prison before? I heavily doubt it, and I would be extremely surprised if I was proven wrong. Im not even that much of a Hardy fan, but I swear if I met some of you people in person, I would love to f*ck you up. Simply because if you have such a grim view of an entertainers downfall, it speaks volumes about how prejustice you must be to the general public. Not that anybody would want to be friends with such evil little sh*ts anyways. This isnt even about being a 'wrestling fan', this is about somebodys life. I know dissing the Hardys is the in-thing at the moment (alongside Zack Ryder and TNA bashing) but some of you need to know where to draw the line. Real talk. Sort your lives out. Note - This isnt aimed at anybody on this board in particular, Ive been floating around a few forums and the universal reaction to this news is the same. And it angered me.  Amen someone speaks the truth the IWC flip flops wayyyyyyyyyy to much |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2011 20:53:57 GMT -5
Hardy gets 10 days, and you guys think thats pathetic..? As an adult who proudly proclaims to be a part of the IWC, I am heavily offended.. That man has risked his life, his health and his career for your viewing pleasure for near on 15 years. He appears in court charged for something im sure he must regret, with his future completely in the balance. He gets a limited sentance, and you people think you have the right to be angered and demand the book is brought down harder..? Nah, the only thing pathetic about this is the geeky virgin smarks, who have probabily never even had a detention at school, sitting behind their computer screen and wishing for Jeff Hardy to be separated from his family and spend a larger portion of his life in jail. That is seriously f*cked up to wish that upon anybody. Your the same people who think you have the right to smear Chris Benoits name. Your the same people who think you have the right to stalk and hassle wrestlers. And now, your the people who think you have the right to opinionise if somebody goes to jail or not. Have any of you lot ever been to prison before? I heavily doubt it, and I would be extremely surprised if I was proven wrong. Im not even that much of a Hardy fan, but I swear if I met some of you people in person, I would love to f*ck you up. Simply because if you have such a grim view of an entertainers downfall, it speaks volumes about how prejustice you must be to the general public. Not that anybody would want to be friends with such evil little sh*ts anyways. This isnt even about being a 'wrestling fan', this is about somebodys life. I know dissing the Hardys is the in-thing at the moment (alongside Zack Ryder and TNA bashing) but some of you need to know where to draw the line. Real talk. Sort your lives out. Note - This isnt aimed at anybody on this board in particular, Ive been floating around a few forums and the universal reaction to this news is the same. And it angered me. Amen someone speaks the truth the IWC flip flops wayyyyyyyyyy to much Indeed someone give this man a medal. |
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Post by roddypiper on Sept 13, 2011 21:00:38 GMT -5
how was i preaching? it was an observation, but i should of known a Hardy sheep would turn it into something it was not, wait not a sheep more of a cow being lead to slaughter. You want a struggling company, trying to take the next step to become a legit contender against WWE and have them release all brand recognition and household names b/c drug and alcohol issues. You preach b/c its easy for you to stand around and mouth off cuz its not your money on the line. Is there any reason to dignify calling me a sheep? Seriously? The biggest free thinker on WFigs is a sheep. Its like calling water dry or the sky purple with diamond polka dots. I call it....like I see it. I dont follow the masses and I dont try and fit in. If I what I say is agreed by the masses, cool. If its not, thats cool too. You're not a free thinker don't go giving yourself to much credit. The problem is that you call it HOW you see it. Even if it is wrong, then you try to convince us you are right. Despite knowing the fact you are wrong. And if for some reason we keep going back and fourth with you...we are sheep. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Sept 13, 2011 21:18:04 GMT -5
You want a struggling company, trying to take the next step to become a legit contender against WWE and have them release all brand recognition and household names b/c drug and alcohol issues. You preach b/c its easy for you to stand around and mouth off cuz its not your money on the line. Is there any reason to dignify calling me a sheep? Seriously? The biggest free thinker on WFigs is a sheep. Its like calling water dry or the sky purple with diamond polka dots. I call it....like I see it. I dont follow the masses and I dont try and fit in. If I what I say is agreed by the masses, cool. If its not, thats cool too. You're not a free thinker don't go giving yourself to much credit. The problem is that you call it HOW you see it. Even if it is wrong, then you try to convince us you are right. Despite knowing the fact you are wrong. And if for some reason we keep going back and fourth with you...we are sheep. I'm not a free thinker, but I DO call it like I see it?! HUH!?!?!? Add hypocrite to your list...confusing hypocrite. I know that I am wrong, but try and convince you that I am right? I am not trying to convince YOU of anything. I say the water is wet....you say it isnt. I say the sky is blue, you tell me it isnt. Up is down and down is up and in is out and out is in. If I post something on here, there are a few sheep that troll the message boards looking to argue just to argue. So dont start the "I know I am wrong, but I am trying to convince you" crap. Thats the definition of what you do. |
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Post by roddypiper on Sept 14, 2011 4:49:51 GMT -5
You're not a free thinker don't go giving yourself to much credit. The problem is that you call it HOW you see it. Even if it is wrong, then you try to convince us you are right. Despite knowing the fact you are wrong. And if for some reason we keep going back and fourth with you...we are sheep. I'm not a free thinker, but I DO call it like I see it?! HUH!?!?!? Add hypocrite to your list...confusing hypocrite. I know that I am wrong, but try and convince you that I am right? I am not trying to convince YOU of anything. I say the water is wet....you say it isnt. I say the sky is blue, you tell me it isnt. Up is down and down is up and in is out and out is in. If I post something on here, there are a few sheep that troll the message boards looking to argue just to argue. So dont start the "I know I am wrong, but I am trying to convince you" crap. Thats the definition of what you do. Yep...that is what I do... man..you really have me pegged... |
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Post by marino13 on Sept 14, 2011 7:31:29 GMT -5
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Post by E N I G M A on Sept 14, 2011 13:17:14 GMT -5
Amen someone speaks the truth the IWC flip flops wayyyyyyyyyy to much Indeed someone give this man a medal. |
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Sept 14, 2011 14:00:08 GMT -5
how was i preaching? it was an observation, but i should of known a Hardy sheep would turn it into something it was not, wait not a sheep more of a cow being lead to slaughter. You want a struggling company, trying to take the next step to become a legit contender against WWE and have them release all brand recognition and household names b/c drug and alcohol issues. You preach b/c its easy for you to stand around and mouth off cuz its not your money on the line. Is there any reason to dignify calling me a sheep? Seriously? The biggest free thinker on WFigs is a sheep. Its like calling water dry or the sky purple with diamond polka dots. I call it....like I see it. I dont follow the masses and I dont try and fit in. If I what I say is agreed by the masses, cool. If its not, thats cool too. In the same vein TNA will not be supported by people enough to be a legit contenders if they persist to push people with noted criminal tendencies. I'm not saying that Jeff absolutely should be fired. But I'm also not saying he isn't replaceable. Because he is quite replaceable. There are any number of wrestlers that are more charismatic and entertaining in the ring and on the mic that TNA could hang their hat on if they wanted to become legit competition with the WWE. TNA doesn't have to release them all but they have to stop glorifying them as well. Keeping Angle as champ after (allegedly) being caught DUI is not good press and will not help you contend with the WWE. Also you have to stop with the whole "I'm the most free thinker on WF and everyone else are sheep." It's coming off way too forced. You can try to be CM Punk but Punk is actually good at it  |
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Post by jfinnomore on Sept 14, 2011 14:54:17 GMT -5
You want a struggling company, trying to take the next step to become a legit contender against WWE and have them release all brand recognition and household names b/c drug and alcohol issues. You preach b/c its easy for you to stand around and mouth off cuz its not your money on the line. Is there any reason to dignify calling me a sheep? Seriously? The biggest free thinker on WFigs is a sheep. Its like calling water dry or the sky purple with diamond polka dots. I call it....like I see it. I dont follow the masses and I dont try and fit in. If I what I say is agreed by the masses, cool. If its not, thats cool too. You're not a free thinker don't go giving yourself to much credit. The problem is that you call it HOW you see it. Even if it is wrong, then you try to convince us you are right. Despite knowing the fact you are wrong. And if for some reason we keep going back and fourth with you...we are sheep. He's a free thinker in the way that he's free to think siding with the Hardys makes him cutting edge and going against the Hardys makes us sheep. |
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Post by K5 on Sept 14, 2011 15:15:19 GMT -5
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Sept 14, 2011 20:01:06 GMT -5
You want a struggling company, trying to take the next step to become a legit contender against WWE and have them release all brand recognition and household names b/c drug and alcohol issues. You preach b/c its easy for you to stand around and mouth off cuz its not your money on the line. Is there any reason to dignify calling me a sheep? Seriously? The biggest free thinker on WFigs is a sheep. Its like calling water dry or the sky purple with diamond polka dots. I call it....like I see it. I dont follow the masses and I dont try and fit in. If I what I say is agreed by the masses, cool. If its not, thats cool too. In the same vein TNA will not be supported by people enough to be a legit contenders if they persist to push people with noted criminal tendencies. I'm not saying that Jeff absolutely should be fired. But I'm also not saying he isn't replaceable. Because he is quite replaceable. There are any number of wrestlers that are more charismatic and entertaining in the ring and on the mic that TNA could hang their hat on if they wanted to become legit competition with the WWE. TNA doesn't have to release them all but they have to stop glorifying them as well. Keeping Angle as champ after (allegedly) being caught DUI is not good press and will not help you contend with the WWE. Also you have to stop with the whole "I'm the most free thinker on WF and everyone else are sheep." It's coming off way too forced. You can try to be CM Punk but Punk is actually good at it Main stream fans dont care. Even at shows Jeff isnt on, you have parents bringing their kids with Hardy arm bands. They either dont know or they choose to ignore it. TNA needs all the press they can get. Nobody called for Jericho to be fired after he got drunk and punched some bitch. Be like Punk? Or maybe its me being me. I've been on here for years on years and I am as opinionated as I was then, as I am now. Being a free thinker and not siding with the popular opinion just b/c everyone else did is not new. Better check that history. At the same token, there are plenty of things the sheep and I do agree one. I love Ryder. Find him hilariously entertaining. Love Hawkins....SOOO UNDER RATED. But I didnt get into all that man love for MVP, Carlito, Jericho and I dont gush over Ryder like the sheep. You're not a free thinker don't go giving yourself to much credit. The problem is that you call it HOW you see it. Even if it is wrong, then you try to convince us you are right. Despite knowing the fact you are wrong. And if for some reason we keep going back and fourth with you...we are sheep. He's a free thinker in the way that he's free to think siding with the Hardys makes him cutting edge and going against the Hardys makes us sheep. Whats cutting edge about it? Is that you just trying to use big words? How about siding on one side makes me opinionated and going against me just to against me b/c its "cool" is what makes you a sheep. |
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Post by deskjet on Sept 14, 2011 23:33:28 GMT -5
how was i preaching? it was an observation, but i should of known a Hardy sheep would turn it into something it was not, wait not a sheep more of a cow being lead to slaughter. You want a struggling company, trying to take the next step to become a legit contender against WWE and have them release all brand recognition and household names b/c drug and alcohol issues. You preach b/c its easy for you to stand around and mouth off cuz its not your money on the line. Is there any reason to dignify calling me a sheep? Seriously? The biggest free thinker on WFigs is a sheep. Its like calling water dry or the sky purple with diamond polka dots. I call it....like I see it. I dont follow the masses and I dont try and fit in. If I what I say is agreed by the masses, cool. If its not, thats cool too. What exactly has brand recognition and household names like Hulk Hogan, RVD, Anderson, The Dudley Boys, Angle, Bobby Lashley, Christian Cage, Matt Hardy, AND jeff Hardy done to help TNA take the next step to become a legit contender against the WWE? There's something glaringly more problematic when you have a talent roster of that degree for the past few years and they're still, as you said a "struggling" company. TNA's continued problem is mismanagement of funds and talent, and Jeff Hardy has and will not do anything to cure that problem. |
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