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Post by Pedigree on Aug 21, 2014 19:41:00 GMT -5
I've been trying to learn how to make my own decals but it typically just ends with a pile of crumpled up decal paper on the floor. There's got to be a tutorial out there for clueless people like us, right?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 20:22:01 GMT -5
Anyone perfect at torso cracking? I need an elite Kane torso cracked but don't want to ruin it
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Aug 21, 2014 20:27:33 GMT -5
Anyone perfect at torso cracking? I need an elite Kane torso cracked but don't want to ruin it I'm by no means perfect but my best advice is to make sure the water is BOILING hot. Like, see the bubbles and steam. You shouldn't be able to put your fingers in it comfortably. (Cup of water for 6:00 in the microwave ought to do the trick) This will melt the glue to the point that you really just have to slide the xacto knife along the seam after it's been sitting in the water for a couple minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 20:28:04 GMT -5
Anyone perfect at torso cracking? I need an elite Kane torso cracked but don't want to ruin it Kane is actually an easy torso to crack. I've cracked two without any problems, and I'm not a master customizer.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 20:28:33 GMT -5
Anyone perfect at torso cracking? I need an elite Kane torso cracked but don't want to ruin it Kane is actually an easy torso to crack. I've cracked two without any problems, and I'm not a master customizer. With the usual method of boiling water? Did it I back together seamlessly?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 20:29:26 GMT -5
Kane is actually an easy torso to crack. I've cracked two without any problems, and I'm not a master customizer. With the usual method of boiling water? Did it I back together seamlessly? Yeah. If you mess it up, though, don't get me banned. You're a mod now, so you can do that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 20:48:09 GMT -5
Kane is actually an easy torso to crack. I've cracked two without any problems, and I'm not a master customizer. With the usual method of boiling water? Did it I back together seamlessly? Mostly, sometimes u need to cut out pieces of plastic in the torso, bent pegs etc... Dry fit before you glue,you can carve anything inside to make a tighter fit
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Post by rustyy on Aug 21, 2014 21:11:06 GMT -5
Anyone got a spare cracked funk/jericho torso they are looking to get rid of?
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Post by quattre777 on Aug 21, 2014 21:28:23 GMT -5
I've been trying to learn how to make my own decals but it typically just ends with a pile of crumpled up decal paper on the floor. There's got to be a tutorial out there for clueless people like us, right? I find making decals in and of themselves is not actually that hard. I use waterslide decals, rather than peel and stick, which are just stickers pretty much. There was the one guy a few pages back saying he uses peel and stick, and I'm amazed because I've never been able to get them to work on a figure. Anyway, I don't use decals on my wrestling figures, only on my hockey ones. But the process is pretty much the same. I create an image in Photoshop at 600 dpi at the size I want it. Usually, because the paper isn't cheap, I'll do a whole bunch at once. For hockey figures, it's a lot easier, as I can just find a picture of the logo online. For a wrestler, their tights logos, and especially their tattoos aren't going to be found as a nice flat image. So you have to have some Photoshop skills for that part. If you have them, it's not too bad. If you don't, well, you can try your best to find a good picture, which is probably difficult. But I look at some of the customs here and you guys take such great pictures that you can make a decent decal out of your pictures without too much work. I look at a decal as painting in Photoshop rather than painting directly onto a figure. Still takes a lot of work, but there's a lot more room for error. Now, once it's done, I just use Photoshop to print it onto the decal paper. Sometimes I'll save it as a pdf in Photoshop, which then allows me to use Adobe Reader, which I find easier to use to print from rather than Photoshop's millions of print screens. The paper says to use the "manual feed" option and select the "thick paper" option. Manual feed means I actually have to stand beside the printer and put in the paper, it's not in the tray. You need to have a good printer for it, and there's different paper for if you have a laser or an inkjet. Also, there are two different types of paper, clear and white. Most printers don't print in white, so if you have something white, you need white paper. Of course, then it's not transparent. Once it's printed, I let it dry. I have a laser, so I don't really think that's necessary, but I do it anyway...old habits. Now, in terms of placing a waterslide decal on, just cut out the decal and put it into a glass of water. Not a big glass, since you'll need to take it out. It's been a while, so I don't remember how long I leave it in, but it's somewhere from 30 seconds to 2 minutes. It says on my package of paper. You can see that the backing may start to come off inside the glass. That's fine. Anyway, take out the decal, remove the backing and place it on the figure. I've had mine crumple a bit, but I find if it's still wet, I can flatten it, though sometimes some of the ink comes off. It takes a bit of work. You just need to be very careful. If you've used waterslide decals (I don't know what type Dean used to sell), then it'll be the same. I sometimes use a towel to dry it out a bit once it's on. I usually leave it for a day before sealing it. Colour similarities are the main thing to worry about, which is why it is probably easier to have a transparent background, especially for a tattoo. If you use a peel and stick decal, it's just a sticker. If you've never used stickers before...I feel sorry for your childhood. Printing it is the exact same process. Like I said, I tried both and am amazed someone actually got them to work. But like I said, I work on hockey figures, and their jerseys are a lot more creased than most of the wrestling attires, and I find the waterslide sticks to the figure a lot better. I also assume inkjet decals are the same and may even be nicer quality, since inkjets apparently print nicer quality, but I wouldn't know for sure. One thing to note is how good your printer is. The higher dpi gives you a better quality. 300 dpi I find is far too small. I don't know what my printer prints at, and for a shoulder patch, it's a little hard to tell what it says, but I can see a major difference between printing at 300 dpi and 600 dpi. Even if I can't fully read the 600 dpi version, I can see way more detail than the 300 dpi version. I always test on regular paper to see what it's like. I've included a picture of my decals I used for one of my hockey figures. You can see that the image isn't one smooth colour, as my printer prints like that. It's not as noticeable in person, even if you're close, but you can tell it is there. You can see what I mean not being able to read the patch on the top left of the pic (his right). But at 300 dpi, it would be blurred. Hope that helps. Feel free to ask anything I totally didn't do a good job explaining. I'm a teacher, so I should be able to explain, yet it seems the only thing I can explain is math. Uploaded at ImageFra.me
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Post by Pedigree on Aug 21, 2014 21:36:40 GMT -5
Well that was much more than I was expecting. Thank you for all the pointers. I'm going to try and find some high quality water slide decal paper this weekend. Much appreciated my friend!
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Post by quattre777 on Aug 21, 2014 21:47:52 GMT -5
No problem. Just make sure you get the proper type for your printer (inkjet/laser). I bought mine off of ebay. They weren't cheap, but that also is partly due to shipping from the US to Canada. Patience is key. I like to use my test page of decals printed on regular paper to see how it'll look. So I'll cut them out and try to place them on my figure, so I get an idea of where the creases are. Still doesn't always work out when I do the real one and I have to redo it, but it happens.
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Post by Ryan Black on Aug 21, 2014 22:28:23 GMT -5
Wow, thank you so much for the decal information, my friend...
I have always been a proud return customer of Dean's. I truly admire his work.
I contacted Dean about a mistake that was made in my last eBay order from him. Several times, actually- and never got a response. Got two sets of Bray Wyatt decals. Ordered one set of Seth Rollins decals & one set of Bray Wyatt decals. Was charged for both sets of BW decals. Offered to pay extra for the Rollins decals. After no response, offered to pay double just for the inconvenience. No response. I'm very disappointed... I was always a big fan of his work, and he inspired me to make better fix-ups.
I can understand not wanting to make decals anymore... but at least be loyal to the people that were loyal to your business. He was always very kind whenever we exchanged e-mails. I am very surprised he won't even give me a response. I offered to pay him double for the Seth Rollins decals I didn't get. I really don't understand. Dean, if you see this, please get back to me. Hope you're well. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 22:37:15 GMT -5
He ignored many people here, your not the first. Anyhow I think he was banned after the tantrum he threw when he cut up 1979s work out of sheer jealousy
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Post by guster on Aug 21, 2014 22:48:56 GMT -5
He seemed to have a complete meltdown. He hasn't posted on his Instagram since around the same time.
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Post by JDSFullmetal on Aug 21, 2014 23:25:46 GMT -5
Alicia Fox so far
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Post by Cleveland's Biggest Fan on Aug 21, 2014 23:57:57 GMT -5
Hello everyone, just had a quick question for those of you who sculpt customs. How hard was it for you first starting off? I'm not to good at art and even though most brands of epoxy are not too expensive I just don't want to invest and ruin a figure. thanks to those who reply.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 0:57:03 GMT -5
Hello everyone, just had a quick question for those of you who sculpt customs. How hard was it for you first starting off? I'm not to good at art and even though most brands of epoxy are not too expensive I just don't want to invest and ruin a figure. thanks to those who reply. My first time was a little difficult. Obviously I had to mix it well, and all that. But I watched a lot tutorials. I practiced the sculpting on my hand, and it looked pretty good, so I dove right in. It was alright. Next time it got easier, and so on. Time, effort and patience required here my friend.
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Post by theaxehennig on Aug 22, 2014 6:57:42 GMT -5
Well that was much more than I was expecting. Thank you for all the pointers. I'm going to try and find some high quality water slide decal paper this weekend. Much appreciated my friend! Testors water slide WHITE not clear works well. I didn't like Papilio's paper because they lifted significantly. Other tips: -use decal bonder instead of clear spray sealer. I've found the clear sealer really seals the decal to the backing paper an makes it difficultnto slide off. Let the decal dry overnight. -use a qtip and a gluestick to add a little adhesive to the receiving figure. -let the decal dry overnight before painting.
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Post by Pedigree on Aug 22, 2014 7:22:17 GMT -5
Testors white. Got it. Going to check hobby lobby today.
The last time I bought paper I went with clear. Guess that's part of the problem.
Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 9:55:57 GMT -5
I've been trying to learn how to make my own decals but it typically just ends with a pile of crumpled up decal paper on the floor. There's got to be a tutorial out there for clueless people like us, right? Here is what I do..... Get clear or white papilio waterslide decal paper.... Find the image online and open it in word and make it the desired size.... Print out the decals and spray the decals with sealer... Spray them a few times then cut them out and apply
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