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Post by slappy on Oct 19, 2011 22:14:40 GMT -5
Why do you hate Ron Paul so much? Why can't you just like chill out? Because he's racist.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Oct 19, 2011 22:21:48 GMT -5
Why do you hate Ron Paul so much? Why can't you just like chill out? Where did I say I hated Ron Paul? I just said the guy has no chance of winning. Like I said earlier, let's say Cain drops out tomorrow. Heck, let's say Romney drops out. How many of those voters are going to go to Paul? Very few of them. The vast majority of them will go to the other candidates in the race. Paul may have 15% and that's fine. That just means there are 85% of voters out there who will never ever vote for Paul no matter what and they just disagree about who the candidate should be. They do agree that Paul is not their guy.
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Post by Mole on Oct 19, 2011 22:22:43 GMT -5
Why do you hate Ron Paul so much? Why can't you just like chill out? Where did I say I hated Ron Paul? I just said the guy has no chance of winning. Like I said earlier, let's say Cain drops out tomorrow. Heck, let's say Romney drops out. How many of those voters are going to go to Paul? Very few of them. The vast majority of them will go to the other candidates in the race. Paul may have 15% and that's fine. That just means there are 85% of voters out there who will never ever vote for Paul no matter what and they just disagree about who the candidate should be. They do agree that Paul is not their guy. I think he was talking to Milincoln.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2011 22:24:20 GMT -5
Why do you hate Ron Paul so much? Why can't you just like chill out? Where did I say I hated Ron Paul? I just said the guy has no chance of winning. Like I said earlier, let's say Cain drops out tomorrow. Heck, let's say Romney drops out. How many of those voters are going to go to Paul? Very few of them. The vast majority of them will go to the other candidates in the race. Paul may have 15% and that's fine. That just means there are 85% of voters out there who will never ever vote for Paul no matter what and they just disagree about who the candidate should be. They do agree that Paul is not their guy. No Minicoln King of the Road guy.
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Post by slappy on Oct 19, 2011 22:24:33 GMT -5
Why do you hate Ron Paul so much? Why can't you just like chill out? Where did I say I hated Ron Paul? I just said the guy has no chance of winning. Like I said earlier, let's say Cain drops out tomorrow. Heck, let's say Romney drops out. How many of those voters are going to go to Paul? Very few of them. The vast majority of them will go to the other candidates in the race. Paul may have 15% and that's fine. That just means there are 85% of voters out there who will never ever vote for Paul no matter what and they just disagree about who the candidate should be. They do agree that Paul is not their guy. He was talking to milincoln. Romney cannot win the general election. Over 60% of people said they would never vote for a Mormon. I think it's why he can't get above 25% or so nationally.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Oct 19, 2011 22:33:18 GMT -5
Where did I say I hated Ron Paul? I just said the guy has no chance of winning. Like I said earlier, let's say Cain drops out tomorrow. Heck, let's say Romney drops out. How many of those voters are going to go to Paul? Very few of them. The vast majority of them will go to the other candidates in the race. Paul may have 15% and that's fine. That just means there are 85% of voters out there who will never ever vote for Paul no matter what and they just disagree about who the candidate should be. They do agree that Paul is not their guy. He was talking to milincoln. Romney cannot win the general election. Over 60% of people said they would never vote for a Mormon. I think it's why he can't get above 25% or so nationally. Not saying Romney can win. I just say that Republicans would rather run Romney than Paul any day of the week.
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Post by slappy on Oct 19, 2011 22:35:43 GMT -5
He was talking to milincoln. Romney cannot win the general election. Over 60% of people said they would never vote for a Mormon. I think it's why he can't get above 25% or so nationally. Not saying Romney can win. I just say that Republicans would rather run Romney than Paul any day of the week. For sure, they'd much rather run Romney than Paul. And they probably will end up doing so.
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Post by Halloween King on Oct 19, 2011 22:38:28 GMT -5
Where did I say I hated Ron Paul? I just said the guy has no chance of winning. Like I said earlier, let's say Cain drops out tomorrow. Heck, let's say Romney drops out. How many of those voters are going to go to Paul? Very few of them. The vast majority of them will go to the other candidates in the race. Paul may have 15% and that's fine. That just means there are 85% of voters out there who will never ever vote for Paul no matter what and they just disagree about who the candidate should be. They do agree that Paul is not their guy. I think he was talking to Milincoln. It's not that I hate Ron Paul, I actually feel bad for the guy. He has no chance of winning. It just makes me laugh to see people support him, and then its even funnier when said people bash you for disagreeing with them. I mean one person isnt content with bashing me here, they click on my username, go to other threads I've commented on just to bash me. Just really pathetic. When I see people using the Ron Paul website as "facts" it reminds me of that scene in Kingpin where Munson trys to convince the Amish guy that smoking is good for you because the tobacco industry has researched the "facts".
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Post by slappy on Oct 19, 2011 22:41:28 GMT -5
I think he was talking to Milincoln. It's not that I hate Ron Paul, I actually feel bad for the guy. He has no chance of winning. It just makes me laugh to see people support him, and then its even funnier when said people bash you for disagreeing with them. I mean one person isnt content with bashing me here, they click on my username, go to other threads I've commented on just to bash me. Just really pathetic. When I see people using the Ron Paul website as "facts" it reminds me of that scene in Kingpin where Munson trys to convince the Amish guy that smoking is good for you because the tobacco industry has researched the "facts". No one attacks Hulk for not liking or not caring about Paul. We 'attack' you because you give no facts to back up your claims. Do you hate Rick Perry over the racism of the name of his hunting camp?
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Post by Halloween King on Oct 19, 2011 22:44:37 GMT -5
It's not that I hate Ron Paul, I actually feel bad for the guy. He has no chance of winning. It just makes me laugh to see people support him, and then its even funnier when said people bash you for disagreeing with them. I mean one person isnt content with bashing me here, they click on my username, go to other threads I've commented on just to bash me. Just really pathetic. When I see people using the Ron Paul website as "facts" it reminds me of that scene in Kingpin where Munson trys to convince the Amish guy that smoking is good for you because the tobacco industry has researched the "facts". No one attacks Hulk for not liking or not caring about Paul. We 'attack' you because you give no facts to back up your claims. Do you hate Rick Perry over the racism of the name of his hunting camp? The only Facts I've ever posted against Ron Paul is clips of him himself speaking. Or clips from his newsletter. If the man himself speaking isnt enough of a fact for you then I dont know what it is you want?
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Oct 19, 2011 22:47:52 GMT -5
I'll also just toss out there that anyone who won't vote for Romney because he's a Mormon is an idiot.
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Post by slappy on Oct 19, 2011 22:50:50 GMT -5
No one attacks Hulk for not liking or not caring about Paul. We 'attack' you because you give no facts to back up your claims. Do you hate Rick Perry over the racism of the name of his hunting camp? The only Facts I've ever posted against Ron Paul is clips of him himself speaking. Or clips from his newsletter. If the man himself speaking isnt enough of a fact for you then I dont know what it is you want? How many times do we have to go over the fact that what he said about the 14th amendment isn't racist. You think it only applies to Hispanics and that makes you the racist thinking they are the only ones coming here having children. You've given no proof of his racism at all. Not one thing proven to be written by him, not one thing said by him that is racist. So either get some proof or please stop embarrassing yourself.
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Post by slappy on Oct 19, 2011 22:51:07 GMT -5
I'll also just toss out there that anyone who won't vote for Romney because he's a Mormon is an idiot. I can agree with that as well.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 19, 2011 23:35:39 GMT -5
First of all, let me "LoL" at the fact that you completely glossed over every statement I made and responded with three lines of dumb bullcraponce again. But for the sake of discrediting your obnoxious trash, I'll respond to them again. I imagine you'll overlook my entire post as you always do and respond with, "BUT HE'LL NEVER WIN!" or "HE's RACIST! I KNOW HE'S RACIST!" LMAO... So pathetic... What exactly is vague about the 14th amendment? That A-holes like Ron Paul dont like all peoples born in the USA does not mean it is time to change the constitution. Because it was clearly intended to give citizenship to people born here TO CITIZENS. Being that we're talking about illegal immigrants, I'm pretty sure the people writing the constitution were not intending that people could sneak in here and get free citizenship for their children. Think about it... When the 14th Amendment was ratified, the U.S. did not limit immigration. People were free to come here as they please... As we all know now, that has since changed. As such, the laws which apply to previously free immigration obviously also need to be changed to apply to that change in the law. www.14thamendment.us/birthright_citizenship/original_intent.htmlAs explained by then-Senator Jacob Howard... "Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country." Facts! You want to talk about Facts?!? All you have is empty promises from a weak politician. And you use those promises/hopes/dreams to try and pass them off as facts. WEAK. I have presented facts, continually, in every single thread. You choose to look over them because again, your head is too far up your ass. I haven't quoted Ron Paul regarding The 14th Amendment discussion, so I'm not sure what you're even talking about. The link I just provided has absolutely nothing to do with Ron Paul. I can find countless other sources as well, if you'd like. You, of course, have nothing. As usual. Really though im through with you. You have a real smug and lousy personality. I guess you are the same as the candidate you support. A person who wants to appear like they know what they are talking about with really no clue. Boy will I be happy as can be when come primarys your loser condidate does what he does best..... LOSE. Let me ask you, oh brilliant one... Exactly how many elections has Ron Paul lost in his life? How many has he won? Yeah, what a loser. I'm sorry that bringing up facts in a debate is too hard for you to deal with. The only thing you bring to the table is PROVEN TO BE INCORRECT NONSENSE that you found by Googling "bad things about Ron Paul." It's sad. It really, really is.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 19, 2011 23:47:27 GMT -5
They're going to have to. As Kliquid said, he's not going anywhere as the race goes on. Or atleast his base won't allow him to. Still has no chance to win. As I said earlier, he's not the type of candidate that takes any voters from another candidate. He takes voters from the only other candidate that ACTUALLY matters... Barack Obama. And he's the only one that'd do it. THAT is what is needed.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 19, 2011 23:49:21 GMT -5
Who exactly discredited the newsletters? Dont say RonPaul.com discredited them. Its just a FACT that the newsletters which have his name on them are full of racist remarks. I dont buy the whole... "I didnt write any of it" Someone else wrote it" " I had no idea" B.S. WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS TOPIC TO THE POINT THAT IT IS MAKING MY HEAD HURT TO CONTINUALLY HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO TO YOU, BUT... The "newsletter" thing can be extremely easily debunked as being Ron Paul himself. PAY ATTENTION...One of the newsletters basically said that Martin Luther King day is "hate whitey day" and that it should not be a national holiday. Unfortunately for those wanting to pin this on Ron Paul... He voted to ALLOW Martin Luther King Day to be a national holiday. As if it wasn't extremely obvious that he didn't write the newsletters just based on the way that the sentences are structured, this simple vote obviously proves that Paul had nothing to do with the newsletter. off about it already. Was it stupid for him to have his name on it? Yes. Blame him for THAT. I can at least agree with you on that. If you want to hate Ron Paul for being stupid and not having control of his newsletter, FINE. But to claim that he wrote those things is ing idiotic. Then again, I can't say I'm surprised that something idiotic would come from you. If the 14th Amendment changed who would it dircetly effect? The people who migrated and had children here today, OR, the people who migrated here and had children a 100 years ago? Most Anglos came here a few hundred years ago, Hispanics are comming in the present day. So how is that not racist? It'd affect people who are HERE ILLEGALLY. Do you understand the definition of that word? Illegal? The only Facts I've ever posted against Ron Paul is clips of him himself speaking. Or clips from his newsletter. If the man himself speaking isnt enough of a fact for you then I dont know what it is you want? I don't recall you ever posting any video whatsoever that would indicate Ron Paul is racist.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Oct 20, 2011 8:21:33 GMT -5
Still has no chance to win. As I said earlier, he's not the type of candidate that takes any voters from another candidate. He takes voters from the only other candidate that ACTUALLY matters... Barack Obama. And he's the only one that'd do it. THAT is what is needed. Anyone who runs and has an R behind their name is going to take votes from Obama. The problem with Paul is that if he is nominated a good majority of the Republican base will simply stay home on election day. Either that or he splits the party and someone like Romney or Perry runs as a third party with a lot of support and Obama wins by default.
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Post by Adam on Oct 20, 2011 9:05:28 GMT -5
I'll also just toss out there that anyone who won't vote for Romney because he's a Mormon is an idiot. I completely agree with this. To be honest I always forget he is a Mormon. Anyone who runs and has an R behind their name is going to take votes from Obama. The problem with Paul is that if he is nominated a good majority of the Republican base will simply stay home on election day. Either that or he splits the party and someone like Romney or Perry runs as a third party with a lot of support and Obama wins by default. So Republicans would rather have Obama stay in office than electing Ron Paul? Obviously that could be the case, in fact I don't doubt it. Just seems contradictory to me.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Oct 20, 2011 9:22:16 GMT -5
Anyone who runs and has an R behind their name is going to take votes from Obama. The problem with Paul is that if he is nominated a good majority of the Republican base will simply stay home on election day. Either that or he splits the party and someone like Romney or Perry runs as a third party with a lot of support and Obama wins by default. So Republicans would rather have Obama stay in office than electing Ron Paul? Obviously that could be the case, in fact I don't doubt it. Just seems contradictory to me. I'm saying there is a significant portion of the base who would rather vote for Romney or Perry as a third party candidate than Paul on the Republican ticket.
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 20, 2011 10:04:17 GMT -5
So Republicans would rather have Obama stay in office than electing Ron Paul? Obviously that could be the case, in fact I don't doubt it. Just seems contradictory to me. I'm saying there is a significant portion of the base who would rather vote for Romney or Perry as a third party candidate than Paul on the Republican ticket. Neither Perry nor Romney would have the financial backing, without a Republican nod, to continue the race outside of the ticket; so I think that's rather irrelevant.
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