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Post by Halloween King on Oct 19, 2011 0:33:22 GMT -5
Basicly I am wondering if anyone else who lives in a big city feels there city is discriminated against by corperate America?
I say Chicago is discriminated against by corperate america for a few reasons. Some stores in Chicago, which are national chains, either clearly discriminate or just dont operate in Chicago.
I'll Give a few examples.
Good Luck finding a Denny's or Ihop in Chicago. They are all around the city but, as far as I know, not 1 operates in Chicago.
Walmarts.... I drive out 40 to 80 miles from Chicago and there are big huge supercenter Walmarts open 24 hrs. And yet in Chicago with its Millions of residents we have but 1 walmart. It is Small compared to other walmarts, has only 1 entrance, and I dont think it's 24 hrs.
Target..... Same as Walmart, they have smaller stores in the city. And not a single 1 is 24 hrs.
There are what's called.... Food Deserts in Chicago. A food desert is an area in which you have to travel miles before you can find a grocery store.
Theres a bunch more small things I notice that are different out of the city. It really bothers me that Corperate America seems to roll out a red carpet in towns with 20k residents and yet in places where there are Millions of residents we get minimal service.
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Post by Cult Member BriGuy on Oct 19, 2011 0:56:31 GMT -5
wtf are you talking about. there's no discrimination by corporate america against Chicago. Just because national chains don't have stores in Chicago, doesn't mean they discriminate. There are lots of other factors involved, mostly politics and urban planning.
And why would you want to go to IHop or Denny's when you can go, I don't know, ANYWHERE ELSE? Chicago has tons of unique restaurants with great food.
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Post by Halloween King on Oct 19, 2011 1:25:47 GMT -5
wtf are you talking about. there's no discrimination by corporate america against Chicago. Just because national chains don't have stores in Chicago, doesn't mean they discriminate. There are lots of other factors involved, mostly politics and urban planning. And why would you want to go to IHop or Denny's when you can go, I don't know, ANYWHERE ELSE? Chicago has tons of unique restaurants with great food. Urban Planning? Urban planning might block more Walmarts from opening up but it wont block the existing store from being open 24 hrs. Or being a decent sized store. Or block it from having two entances like the small town Walmarts. No discrimination you say? Maybe it isnt discrimination but it sure is sticking it to residents of Chicago. We already pay the highest sales tax in the nation, why do grocerys, medicines, and other goods cost considerably more in Chicago than in stores out of the city? Why do you go to a Walgreens in Chicago and everything is locked. You need to find an employee to come and unlock the Aspirin. When in a suburb they do not lock anything. Why do you go to a suburb like Lemont (20 miles out of Chicago) and walk into a McDonalds in which they have sofas, lounge chairs, tvs, unlimited fountain drinks, condiments, and yet in Chicago GOOD luck finding something like that. I just feel its B.S. I have yet to see something made equally as nice in Chicago compared to suburbs. When I feel the Chicago stores should be MUCH nicer, we pay more for everything, there are lots more customers, so why do we get the shaft? I happen to like Denny's and Ihop. Sure Chicago has lots more places to eat, but when I want a cheap breakfast made fast in a location I feel is relatively clean, you can not beat Dennys/Ihop. Plus when I walk into a Dennys in Illinois, Indiana, Iowa,Nebraska, Texas, where ever my job may take me that day I know the food will be the same. Where as in the smaller "unique" locations it is always a gamble. And finally Denny's/Ihop usually have a parking lot big enough for me to park my truck where as "unique" locations hardly ever have truck parking.
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Post by Cult Member BriGuy on Oct 19, 2011 1:31:22 GMT -5
why don't you just move to the suburbs then
are you blind to all the crime in the city?
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 19, 2011 3:16:23 GMT -5
Yes, I'm sure large corporations are RACIST, which is why they don't put their business in the low economic areas. It has nothing to do with those stores being less profitable than the ones in high-income areas.
Yep. Makes sense.
#huh
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2011 8:08:48 GMT -5
How did you manage to spell corporate wrong so many times?
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Oct 19, 2011 8:10:13 GMT -5
I'm a big corporation. I'm in business solely to make money and nothing else. So, I'm going to avoid putting a store in the middle of millions and millions of potential customers. Why would I do that? 'Cuz I hate big cities with their tons of customers? Or because the cost of doing business there is so high I can't possibly make a profit? Who's the evil one?
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 19, 2011 14:43:54 GMT -5
Folks, we have to remember that everything comes back to people being RACIST against Millincoln and his Truck Driver buddies. We just don't get it. We don't see what he sees. Our heads aren't far enough up our own asses.
You see, he has OPINIONS. He KNOWS that these corporations are racist because, well, HE JUST KNOWS, OKAY?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2011 15:00:31 GMT -5
Folks, we have to remember that everything comes back to people being RACIST against Millincoln and his Truck Driver buddies. We just don't get it. We don't see what he sees. Our heads aren't far enough up our own asses. You see, he has OPINIONS. He KNOWS that these corporations are racist because, well, HE JUST KNOWS, OKAY? You are clearly racist for not agreeing with everything he's posted. Wal-Mart should do the right thing and ignore high costs, high crime rates, etc. If you can't accept this, you're just ignorant.
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Post by T R W on Oct 19, 2011 15:38:51 GMT -5
Yeah, this is silly.
I live in the heart of Atlanta, which is very similar to Chicago in a lot of ways.
The reason there are few Wal-Marts, and big corporations in downtown are as simple as the others already said. It's bad business. Land costs are MUCH HIGHER in the city, than in the suburbs, not to mention that the size of the land needed for a Wal-Mart is often hard to come by. Add in the increase in crime, and security costs, and it's just not worth it.
Also, a lot of people live in the suburbs and work in the city. THey go shopping, they usually go shopping close to where they live, the suburbs.
The only color corporations care about is green.
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Post by Halloween King on Oct 19, 2011 21:09:03 GMT -5
Yeah, this is silly. I live in the heart of Atlanta, which is very similar to Chicago in a lot of ways. The reason there are few Wal-Marts, and big corporations in downtown are as simple as the others already said. It's bad business. Land costs are MUCH HIGHER in the city, than in the suburbs, not to mention that the size of the land needed for a Wal-Mart is often hard to come by. Add in the increase in crime, and security costs, and it's just not worth it. Also, a lot of people live in the suburbs and work in the city. THey go shopping, they usually go shopping close to where they live, the suburbs. The only color corporations care about is green. True corporations only care about money. Yet a store in a small town which sells considerably less than ones in Chicago seem to get much better prices on merchandise, along with nicer stores. I understand that citys have more crime but that is why stores have security.
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Post by Happy Pizza on Oct 19, 2011 21:12:57 GMT -5
I used to work at a Wal-Mart in a small town, and they probably do better business per-person than a big city. In my town, it was the only place to go. People went there for everything, all the time. More people doesn't automatically equal more profit.
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Post by Halloween King on Oct 19, 2011 21:14:12 GMT -5
Folks, we have to remember that everything comes back to people being RACIST against Millincoln and his Truck Driver buddies. We just don't get it. We don't see what he sees. Our heads aren't far enough up our own asses. You see, he has OPINIONS. He KNOWS that these corporations are racist because, well, HE JUST KNOWS, OKAY? I never said they were racist. I said they discriminate towards urban areas. Really though guy what is your problem? Does it make you feel good to call people names? Do you think that since you are bashing a person you dont know from behind the safety of your computer you are a big man? Sadly when I see your username I associate it with a small smug weak person.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2011 21:21:31 GMT -5
What is this I don't even.
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Post by CM Poor on Oct 19, 2011 21:41:11 GMT -5
You really are out of your gourd, aren't you? There's no other possible explanation. You've demonstrated on several occasions that you haven't the slightest clue about anything pertaining to politics, economics, statistics, not to mention common grammar and spelling, and yet you go on.
But since you're so learned on corporate discrimination, perhaps you could enlighten me as to why I can have one destination shopping mall, two Sears locations, two Targets, and more Dunkin' Donuts on one street than I care to count, but not one Sonic. My city has a population at 86k, so start educating me.
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Post by Halloween King on Oct 19, 2011 21:50:35 GMT -5
You really are out of your gourd, aren't you? There's no other possible explanation. You've demonstrated on several occasions that you haven't the slightest clue about anything pertaining to politics, economics, statistics, not to mention common grammar and spelling, and yet you go on. But since you're so learned on corporate discrimination, perhaps you could enlighten me as to why I can have one destination shopping mall, two Sears locations, two Targets, and more Dunkin' Donuts on one street than I care to count, but not one Sonic. My city has a population at 86k, so start educating me. No Clue? I drive all around the country. I see what companys invest into small town America and then I come home to Chicago and see what Companys invest into my city. I dont need smug people online to try and knock me to know I am right. I see it with my own two eyes. You not having a Sonic in New Hampshire doesnt seem like a big deal to me. As far as I know Sonic just barely started branching out of the southern states. I know for a fact they only have a few years here in Chicago. Maybe soon you'll get your sonic.
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Post by CM Poor on Oct 19, 2011 22:04:00 GMT -5
You really are out of your gourd, aren't you? There's no other possible explanation. You've demonstrated on several occasions that you haven't the slightest clue about anything pertaining to politics, economics, statistics, not to mention common grammar and spelling, and yet you go on. But since you're so learned on corporate discrimination, perhaps you could enlighten me as to why I can have one destination shopping mall, two Sears locations, two Targets, and more Dunkin' Donuts on one street than I care to count, but not one Sonic. My city has a population at 86k, so start educating me. No Clue? I drive all around the country. I see what companys invest into small town America and then I come home to Chicago and see what Companys invest into my city. I dont need smug people online to try and knock me to know I am right. I see it with my own two eyes. You not having a Sonic in New Hampshire doesnt seem like a big deal to me. As far as I know Sonic just barely started branching out of the southern states. I know for a fact they only have a few years here in Chicago. Maybe soon you'll get your sonic. How come Boston doesn't have a Wal-Mart? I'll give you a hint - I know the answer, and it has nothing to do with Wal-Mart's disdain for the city of Boston. Driving around the country means squat. Sitting in a truck and taking in your surrounds does not give you the equivalent knowledge required to draw conclusions that are based around market research, financial gain, and political red tape. To suggest it does is an insult to everyone in that line of work.
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Post by Halloween King on Oct 19, 2011 22:18:44 GMT -5
No Clue? I drive all around the country. I see what companys invest into small town America and then I come home to Chicago and see what Companys invest into my city. I dont need smug people online to try and knock me to know I am right. I see it with my own two eyes. You not having a Sonic in New Hampshire doesnt seem like a big deal to me. As far as I know Sonic just barely started branching out of the southern states. I know for a fact they only have a few years here in Chicago. Maybe soon you'll get your sonic. How come Boston doesn't have a Wal-Mart? I'll give you a hint - I know the answer, and it has nothing to do with Wal-Mart's disdain for the city of Boston. Driving around the country means squat. Sitting in a truck and taking in your surrounds does not give you the equivalent knowledge required to draw conclusions that are based around market research, financial gain, and political red tape. To suggest it does is an insult to everyone in that line of work. My guess is that the Unions in Boston block Walmart from opening? Market equivalent? So me seeing 10 trucks doing deliveries at a Chicago Walmart where as I see 1 or 2 at a small town Walmart means nothing? Me, as a customer, seeing every register open with long lines in Chicago, where as in a small town 4 or 6 registers are open with no lines means nothing? Dont tell me a small town business out sells a Chicago business. No matter how much you want it to be true it isnt. I see backrooms, I see first hand the product in those backrooms, I know the volumes of business those companys do. My job as a driver allows me to see things that as a customer I suspected. But even before driving I remember working retail years ago at a grocery store. A Safeway store. My Chicago store was a million dollar per day store, other suburban stores sold less than half. And yet my store was smaller, more over priced, and had fewer employees. Just as a customer, walk into that Chicago Walmart at the end of the night. Those shelves are cleaned out (grocerys) where as a small town store is still decently stocked and most dont close, they are 24 hr stores. So as a paying customer should I not be bothered that my store is much smaller than a small town store? I understand that a bigger store means a bigger space which means more money spent per the company, but im talking about big billion dollar national chains, not mom and pop stores.
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Post by KeBen Owens on Oct 19, 2011 23:15:40 GMT -5
wtf are you talking about. there's no discrimination by corporate america against Chicago. Just because national chains don't have stores in Chicago, doesn't mean they discriminate. There are lots of other factors involved, mostly politics and urban planning. And why would you want to go to IHop or Denny's when you can go, I don't know, ANYWHERE ELSE? Chicago has tons of unique restaurants with great food. Urban Planning? Urban planning might block more Walmarts from opening up but it wont block the existing store from being open 24 hrs. Or being a decent sized store. Or block it from having two entances like the small town Walmarts. No discrimination you say? Maybe it isnt discrimination but it sure is sticking it to residents of Chicago. We already pay the highest sales tax in the nation, why do grocerys, medicines, and other goods cost considerably more in Chicago than in stores out of the city? Why do you go to a Walgreens in Chicago and everything is locked. You need to find an employee to come and unlock the Aspirin. When in a suburb they do not lock anything. Why do you go to a suburb like Lemont (20 miles out of Chicago) and walk into a McDonalds in which they have sofas, lounge chairs, tvs, unlimited fountain drinks, condiments, and yet in Chicago GOOD luck finding something like that. I just feel its B.S. I have yet to see something made equally as nice in Chicago compared to suburbs. When I feel the Chicago stores should be MUCH nicer, we pay more for everything, there are lots more customers, so why do we get the shaft? I happen to like Denny's and Ihop. Sure Chicago has lots more places to eat, but when I want a cheap breakfast made fast in a location I feel is relatively clean, you can not beat Dennys/Ihop. Plus when I walk into a Dennys in Illinois, Indiana, Iowa,Nebraska, Texas, where ever my job may take me that day I know the food will be the same. Where as in the smaller "unique" locations it is always a gamble. And finally Denny's/Ihop usually have a parking lot big enough for me to park my truck where as "unique" locations hardly ever have truck parking. dont know about everytihng else but the reason why everythings LOCKED in walgreens, is because EVERYTHING gets STOLEN. i work at a walmart. we deal with thieves on a regular basis. we have to lock up $3 pregnancy tests so they dont get stolen. -ashley
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Post by Kliquid on Oct 19, 2011 23:57:05 GMT -5
I never said they were racist. I said they discriminate towards urban areas. You're blatantly indirectly playing the race card by saying that they "discriminate" against a certain area that is quite well known to being heavily populated in one minority race. Really though guy what is your problem? Does it make you feel good to call people names? Do you think that since you are bashing a person you dont know from behind the safety of your computer you are a big man? Does it make you feel like a big man to have absolutely no ing idea what you're talking about while never presenting a single bit of fact on anything that you're arguing, only to make outlandish claims against businesses and individuals as being racist and/or discriminating against an area? I'm going to make a thread called, "HULK HOGAN ACTION FIGURES ARE RACIST!" And then when people open it up, it's going to say, "... Because there aren't any black or hispanic Hulk Hogan action figures, this is obviously racist." That's about as reasonable as calling Denny's, WalMart, IHOP or Target "discriminatory." Sadly when I see your username I associate it with a small smug weak person. Sadly, when I see your username, I associate it with an uneducated individual who doesn't understand even the basics of the world in which he lives.
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