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Post by 859approved on Oct 22, 2011 14:44:09 GMT -5
Hey everyone, we all know Hogan wrestled in Japan, but I had forgotten about this match. The thing that confuses me, with Hogan as WWF Champion (May 5, 1993 is when this match took place), why did Vince allow him to wrestle in Japan while he was Champion? Also, Hogan's comments about American wrestling, and even the World Wrestling Federation Championship shocked me. I never thought a great company guy like Hogan would go on record bashing the company belt. What are your thoughts? I've included the full match, and the interview where he makes the comments.
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Oct 22, 2011 14:55:20 GMT -5
Hey everyone, we all know Hogan wrestled in Japan, but I had forgotten about this match. The thing that confuses me, with Hogan as WWF Champion (May 5, 1993 is when this match took place), why did Vince allow him to wrestle in Japan while he was Champion? Also, Hogan's comments about American wrestling, and even the World Wrestling Federation Championship shocked me. I never thought a great company guy like Hogan would go on record bashing the company belt. What are your thoughts? I've included the full match, and the interview where he makes the comments. Part 1- Part 2- Interview- Well now I could see him doing it. Especially after all of his recent comments about AJ Styles, Roode etc. Not so much of a company guy anymore. |
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Post by jammer311 on Oct 22, 2011 15:14:47 GMT -5
Hogan was never a company guy. He was all about that money money, yeah yeah.
If he was a company guy, he would have never left the WWE in 1993 to sign with WCW in 1994. Hogan has always been a self serving, only care for myself, hold everyone down, type of guy.
Though, I do know in every match he had with Beefcake that I have seen, he never pinned him after the leg drop, he always pinned him with just a roll up. So maybe Hogan cares slightly for his friends. Just slightly though.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Oct 22, 2011 15:15:21 GMT -5
Yeah I remember watching this a few years ago and being really surprised.
Hogan is in business for Hogan and always ALWAYS has been.
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Post by 1992 on Oct 22, 2011 15:33:03 GMT -5
That's probably one of Hogan's best kayfabe promos I've ever heard him cut. To bad it was burying the company he was sent to represent.
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Post by LeighD on Oct 22, 2011 16:15:43 GMT -5
I guess while on the subject on sorts, in a match from Japan, Genichiro Tenryu & Hulk Hogan vs. Hawk & Animal, watch what Hogan does to the camera man (at the 5:00 mark)! Very uncharacteristic of him especially since this is shortly after WrestleMania VII
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Post by 1992 on Oct 22, 2011 17:49:49 GMT -5
I guess while on the subject on sorts, in a match from Japan, Genichiro Tenryu & Hulk Hogan vs. Hawk & Animal, watch what Hogan does to the camera man (at the 5:00 mark)! Very uncharacteristic of him especially since this is shortly after WrestleMania VII LMFAO He also slaps the camera away at 4:13. |
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 22, 2011 18:03:58 GMT -5
What were the odds of someone in "Name your city" United States ever seeing a promo of Hulk Hogan in Japan in 1993? Odds were slim to none. It was completely understandable, while wrestling was getting more main stream...Globally it was still territorial. Trust me, with the internet and youtube and stuff, you'd never hear Cena or Orton do something like that now days.
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Post by 1992 on Oct 22, 2011 18:10:22 GMT -5
What were the odds of someone in "Name your city" United States ever seeing a promo of Hulk Hogan in Japan in 1993? Odds were slim to none. It was completely understandable, while wrestling was getting more main stream...Globally it was still territorial. Trust me, with the internet and youtube and stuff, you'd never hear Cena or Orton do something like that now days. It still made the WWF sound like dogsh*t over in Japan. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2011 18:12:58 GMT -5
I'll say it like I have in the past,  hulk hogan. Sure he's the biggest name to ever happen to pro wrestling but he's also the biggest piece of crapto happen to pro wrestling. He's all about himself and no one else. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2011 18:14:42 GMT -5
What were the odds of someone in "Name your city" United States ever seeing a promo of Hulk Hogan in Japan in 1993? Odds were slim to none. It was completely understandable, while wrestling was getting more main stream...Globally it was still territorial. Trust me, with the internet and youtube and stuff, you'd never hear Cena or Orton do something like that now days. So its okay to diss the company you're working for just because people may not see it? Good to know. You Hogan supporters have some dumb logic, no offense. |
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 22, 2011 18:47:33 GMT -5
What were the odds of someone in "Name your city" United States ever seeing a promo of Hulk Hogan in Japan in 1993? Odds were slim to none. It was completely understandable, while wrestling was getting more main stream...Globally it was still territorial. Trust me, with the internet and youtube and stuff, you'd never hear Cena or Orton do something like that now days. It still made the WWF sound like dogsh*t over in Japan. In that era you'd be hard pressed to find someone in Japan that thought WWE was as good as NJPW or AJPW. Its not different then in the territory days where Ric Flair would walk out on WCCW TV and say "Im here because this is where the best of the best wrestle." and then turning right around and going to Charlotte and saying the same thing and the same thing in St. Louis and Tampa and so on and so forth. If this was anyone else but Hogan sayin it people wouldnt care. |
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Post by LeighD on Oct 22, 2011 19:12:09 GMT -5
I guess while on the subject on sorts, in a match from Japan, Genichiro Tenryu & Hulk Hogan vs. Hawk & Animal, watch what Hogan does to the camera man (at the 5:00 mark)! Very uncharacteristic of him especially since this is shortly after WrestleMania VII LMFAO He also slaps the camera away at 4:13. LOL, those are such cheap heels tactics and yet here is arguably the most popular wrestler doing them! |
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Post by ToastMaster General on Oct 22, 2011 19:20:56 GMT -5
LMFAO He also slaps the camera away at 4:13. LOL, those are such cheap heels tactics and yet here is arguably the most popular wrestler doing them! Man what was up Hogan's ass that night? No playing to the crowd, kicking around cameramen...wow. Was he supposed to be playing a heel or something? |
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Post by gelatinoustapeworm on Oct 22, 2011 21:01:43 GMT -5
What were the odds of someone in "Name your city" United States ever seeing a promo of Hulk Hogan in Japan in 1993? Odds were slim to none. It was completely understandable, while wrestling was getting more main stream...Globally it was still territorial. Trust me, with the internet and youtube and stuff, you'd never hear Cena or Orton do something like that now days. I understand what you're saying, but its not like this incident was unheard of in the United States. It was a cover story in one of the Apter Mags (not sure which one). I remember reading about it at the time (I was 13) and not understanding why Hogan was trashing the WWF. I'm sure not nearly as many people knew about it as they would today if were to happen with Orton or Cena as you mention, but it was out there. |
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Oct 22, 2011 22:40:42 GMT -5
LOL, those are such cheap heels tactics and yet here is arguably the most popular wrestler doing them! ? Even as a face, Hogan always showed a sharper edge in Japan. I'm not sure what the reasoning was behind that but he played a kind of Stone Cold version of himself, including constantly saying he was better than Inoki, even when they weren't wrestling. |
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on Oct 22, 2011 23:17:03 GMT -5
Man what was up Hogan's ass that night? No playing to the crowd, kicking around cameramen...wow. Was he supposed to be playing a heel or something? I'm not sure what the reasoning was behind that but he played a kind of Stone Cold version of himself, including constanty saying he was better than Inoki, even when they weren't wrestling. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2011 5:09:35 GMT -5
May 93.....pretty sure Hogan knew he was on his way out of WWF at this time too.
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Post by hulkhogancollector on Oct 25, 2011 22:26:59 GMT -5
this was a great match and the comments on youtube lol haters will hate
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Post by Sam Hain on Oct 26, 2011 23:02:06 GMT -5
Hogan's not wrong, the WWE title is pretty much just a prop. Bottom line, he lost the title about a month later and only worked a couple of house shows after. He knew he was on his way out.
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