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Post by Red Dragon on Nov 13, 2011 14:26:08 GMT -5
I think this is a suitable pick for the first sims board discussion. It's a big subject which has led to strong opinions on both sides all year. We all know about the Pokemon incident and it seems some members currently have a problem with the Nascar diaries currently on the board.
So I've decided that this should be discussed here. What I'm wanting here is a discussion NOT an argument. So just share your views and respect other peoples opinions. I feel we need to resolve this soon, rather than let it go on. Hopefully we can come to a resolution in this thread but if not I'm willing to create a futher thread for voting.
Just so everybody knows, this thread will be open for a good while for everyone to get their opinions in. I know some people can't get on here as regularly as others and I want lots of opinions. So please, post nicely (don't let this get locked)
--- If this all goes well, hopefully we can make these discussions a regular feature. I'd like everyones input and feel this could be a good way of deciding a few things like: the method of Spotlight voting, HOF, New Rules thread ect.
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Post by Rule 30 on Nov 13, 2011 14:32:36 GMT -5
It depends, really. The Pokemon thing basically spammed the board up, and they gave nothing back to the board. They had no interest in helping the board or replying to other diaries, they were just here because for some reason why they can't put those little things in their Pokemon thread in the Video Games section. That's why I think they were fairly unpopular. I mean Ace had done one before, but he gave back replies and he wasn't a dick who almost got the thread locked. I mean TRW even said himself he would have moved their thread to Banter if they hadn't been a bunch of bitches about it.
Non-Wrestling Diaries are fine be me as long as they aren't spamming the board and the person or people involved are willing to give back to the board, which guys like SG, KvE, Ace, Rated R, and others will absolutely do.
Remember guys, it's just my opinion. [/tg11]
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2011 15:09:33 GMT -5
I don't see what the problem is with having a non wrestling sim it's just some harmless fun and as penguin said KvE and others give back to the board. Some people just get to botchy about things and to up tight, this is all for fun and we should all just get along. We pushed away one simmer (matthew) because some people had to shout at him for doing nothing wrong, lets not push others away
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Post by Ace Bennett on Nov 13, 2011 17:24:08 GMT -5
It depends, really. The Pokemon thing basically spammed the board up, and they gave nothing back to the board. They had no interest in helping the board or replying to other diaries, they were just here because for some reason why they can't put those little things in their Pokemon thread in the Video Games section. That's why I think they were fairly unpopular. I mean Ace had done one before, but he gave back replies and he wasn't a dick who almost got the thread locked. I mean TRW even said himself he would have moved their thread to Banter if they hadn't been a bunch of bitches about it. Non-Wrestling Diaries are fine be me as long as they aren't spamming the board and the person or people involved are willing to give back to the board, which guys like SG, KvE, Ace, Rated R, and others will absolutely do. Remember guys, it's just my opinion. [/tg11] This.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2011 17:25:54 GMT -5
I'm all for non-wrestling diaries. It makes the board more diverse as far as diaries go and it could even attract some outsiders (which I'm fine with as long as they don't spam the crapout of the board). I didn't even have an issue with the Pokemon guys until they started spamming the discussion thread.
BTW, Red Dragon, congrats on the mod spot!
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Post by DTP. on Nov 13, 2011 17:46:51 GMT -5
Personally speaking, as long as they're associating with sports, that's fine by me.
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Post by Bob Bob Bobelow on Nov 13, 2011 18:09:25 GMT -5
While I don't personally find non-wrestling diaries to be all that interesting, I think people should have a freedom to be creative. So, I don't see a problem with them. I just wouldn't read them.
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Post by Red Dragon on Nov 14, 2011 13:00:02 GMT -5
It seems that so far everyone is for non-wrestling diaries as long as their associated with sports.
This is just a suggestion but I want to see what you guys think about it. What about we do to non-wrestling diaries what is currently the rule for sign ups. That is they have to PM the mod for permission. That would help sort out the spam. Just think about it, I'd like to hear your opinions on it and any other similar suggestions.
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Post by Chris Hammers on Nov 14, 2011 13:50:52 GMT -5
No one ever seemed to have a problem with it when Fury was blowing up airports or when I was writing a zombie massacre in the wwe universe. True they used wrestling names but they were not wrestling sims by any means. The only diary I ever had a problem with was the Pokemon Sims thread because of the mass of spam that was going on, inside.
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Post by SodaGuy on Nov 14, 2011 14:59:43 GMT -5
I - obviously - don't see what the problem with non-wrestling diaries is. There isn't any type of "creative writing" board (nor will there be) for those of us who enjoy writing non-wrestling diaries. Why not allow them? We want a more active sim board and then it's WW3 when a non-wrestling one is posted, I don't understand that. The only reason people had a problem with the Pokemon (and why it was locked) was due the amount of spam going on in the thread. The people that I have seen attempt non-wrestling sims are those that understand not to spam their own post and contribute to the rest of the board.
Why not? It doesn't hurt to have sports related/non-wrestling diaries on here. Just my opinion...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2011 15:02:38 GMT -5
This is a very interesting topic, I feel taht the Non-Wrestling diaries must be written and started by one person. It's just that we can tell that they are a trusted writer and they will make sure it will keep others interested in the Sim. Having more than 2 peolpe write the diary just makes it so clustered that it's hard to focus on the main ideas of the Sim.
Would this count as a sport? - Car-Racing (Not like NASCAR but street racing)
I've has an idea of something likes this for awhile but I have talked to the MOD and he said that if it goes over well, I could give it a try.
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Post by johnmcclane44 on Nov 17, 2011 8:02:08 GMT -5
The board is called "Wrestling" sims. Therefor, I think it should just be kept to wrestling from now on. Sports diaries such as Nascar can be posted in the sports video games board. Otherwise this board shouldn't be called wrestling sims.
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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 17, 2011 9:04:22 GMT -5
As someone who pokes his head in here now and then to read KvE, leanbean and Dragon...I'd like to think I can at least post this. Frankly, this board is slowly losing activity. It happens to every board, but given the reason duan gave Dragon the spot, to revitalize the board, something has to be done. For the first week or so, the Pokemon thread wasn't bad at all. But it eventually turned into spam and that's understandable as to why it met its death. But for someone, who is an active participant on this board who wants it revitalized, to not want things other than wrestling sims (who's popularity is clearly beginning to die down) makes no sense. (Still love ya though McClane. ) Frankly, you probably should implement a rule. For every diary entry you post, wrestling or not, you have to reply to someone elses. And if there IS a rule like that, you should really enforce it. But as for wrestling and non-wrestling, as an outsider looking in, if I wasn't so lazy I'd easily do a sports related diary...but if my activity's not going to be met with open arms when I (similar to KvE) are willing to read and reply to other diaries while we're at it, then why bother even coming to this board and trying to help? That's just my take ladies and gentlemen. Take it or leave it I suppose.
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Post by Ace Bennett on Nov 17, 2011 9:50:03 GMT -5
I would honestly be open to changing the name of the board. It seems the main argument against these other sims is that the board is called "wrestling sims." Heck, move it down to the video game section. Sure, that would probably bring an influx of different diaries, but I don't see how anyone could be against that given there have only been 4 or 5 active diaries at any given time lately. That would settle this argument relatively quickly I believe.
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Post by Red Dragon on Nov 17, 2011 12:38:22 GMT -5
I would honestly be open to changing the name of the board. It seems the main argument against these other sims is that the board is called "wrestling sims." Heck, move it down to the video game section. Sure, that would probably bring an influx of different diaries, but I don't see how anyone could be against that given there have only been 4 or 5 active diaries at any given time lately. That would settle this argument relatively quickly I believe. I think that might be a bit too much. I understand your reasoning and if this is what the board want then I'll be happy to fight for it but I can't see the higher ups going to this much bother just for us. I've seen countless people ask for things like this and nothing come from it. So I'm kinda against it, but if thats what you guys want then I'd be happy to support it. Frankly, you probably should implement a rule. For every diary entry you post, wrestling or not, you have to reply to someone elses. And if there IS a rule like that, you should really enforce it. I personally dislike this rule. I've always promoted that your posting for your own enjoyment not for replies. And besides putting that as a rule would make the board a bit Nazi-ish since theres gonna have to be guidelines on replies: length, quality of the reply and such. I do think this is a different subject, so if we could leave this till another discussion (possibly the rules thread) and just discuss the use of non-wrestling diaires. --- Great to see abit of discussion guys, keep it up.
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Post by chaz on Nov 17, 2011 14:10:12 GMT -5
"Wrestling Sims/Creative Writing Board" would be mucho appropos.
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Post by Red Dragon on Nov 17, 2011 14:24:58 GMT -5
"Wrestling Sims/Creative Writing Board" would be mucho appropos. I go back on my earlier statement. I think I might be able to get that changed if thats all what is the problem. Ace's idea of having the board moved would cause too much fuss but I'm sure if I ask right I can get the board name changed. If thats the only problem people have with non-wrestling diaries then I'll be happy to campaign for a name change. So whats the opinion on a simple name change, will that solve everything?
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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 17, 2011 14:40:41 GMT -5
Well, it would then be allowed to have Sims diaries, non-sims diaries, short stories and things of that nature also that aren't necessarily diaries, providing they aren't absolute spam. I give my seal of approval, and you'll have my backing if/when you request it brah.
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Post by Jack. on Nov 17, 2011 14:50:07 GMT -5
Why not a Non-Wrestling Related Sim subboard?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2011 15:45:01 GMT -5
As someone who pokes his head in here now and then to read KvE, leanbean and Dragon...I'd like to think I can at least post this. Frankly, this board is slowly losing activity. It happens to every board, but given the reason duan gave Dragon the spot, to revitalize the board, something has to be done. For the first week or so, the Pokemon thread wasn't bad at all. But it eventually turned into spam and that's understandable as to why it met its death. But for someone, who is an active participant on this board who wants it revitalized, to not want things other than wrestling sims (who's popularity is clearly beginning to die down) makes no sense. (Still love ya though McClane. ) Frankly, you probably should implement a rule. For every diary entry you post, wrestling or not, you have to reply to someone elses. And if there IS a rule like that, you should really enforce it. But as for wrestling and non-wrestling, as an outsider looking in, if I wasn't so lazy I'd easily do a sports related diary...but if my activity's not going to be met with open arms when I (similar to KvE) are willing to read and reply to other diaries while we're at it, then why bother even coming to this board and trying to help? That's just my take ladies and gentlemen. Take it or leave it I suppose. Hey! It's you! ....I can't remember you name, but it's you!
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