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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Dec 11, 2011 0:47:50 GMT -5
From Kevin Iole's Twitter.
Thoughts?
Figure Mir is on deck.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Dec 11, 2011 0:51:45 GMT -5
I was reading that over on Sherdog and I'm not sure it's true or not at this point. Some are saying he skipped town and headed back to Holland to be with his ailing mother. Others are saying he possibly failed a pre-fight drug test, so who knows??
We'll have to stay tuned and find out more as this story develops...
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Post by Bartman on Dec 11, 2011 1:06:07 GMT -5
Yeah, I heard the rumour too. Ariel Helwani even asked Dana about the legitimacy of it during the press conference.
Hopefully it's not true. I'm looking forward to this fight a lot. Mir filling in would make sense, but at the same time, Brock/Mir III seems kind of sudden. Especially considering there's a lot of money to be made from that fight with adequate time for promotion and what not. Plus, being the rubber match, I would like for them to be readily prepared for each other. Not just three weeks notice.
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Post by SteveHulk on Dec 11, 2011 2:32:47 GMT -5
Man, I really hope this isn't true... there's so many big match-ups falling through lately.  And - if it came to it - would Mir be able to fill in so soon after UFC 140?? |
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Dec 11, 2011 2:56:03 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind Mir filling in if this is true, That just means we get to see Brock annihilate Mir's face one more time! Lol Mir didn't look to good tonight i mean Nog  ing rocked him! Who know what could happen if Brock connects with his power, could be lights out for Mir. |
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Post by Sonnen on Dec 11, 2011 3:47:59 GMT -5
Mir didn't look good!?! He BROKE A MANS ARM!!!!
And yes! People get rocked by punches, people through the "having a chin" thing to much in the heavyweight division, one punch off ANY of the men in the heavyweight division can knock someone out.
Frank Mirs said it, Roy Nelsons said it, no shamed in getting rocked in that division by anyone, especially big Nog, he's a legend. And Frank Mir Vs Lesnar 3 would be awesome.
Frank said he'd fill in at the press conference.
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Dec 11, 2011 5:34:12 GMT -5
Mir didn't look good!?! He BROKE A MANS ARM!!!! And yes! People get rocked by punches, people through the "having a chin" thing to much in the heavyweight division, one punch off ANY of the men in the heavyweight division can knock someone out. Frank Mirs said it, Roy Nelsons said it, no shamed in getting rocked in that division by anyone, especially big Nog, he's a legend. And Frank Mir Vs Lesnar 3 would be awesome. Frank said he'd fill in at the press conference. Ok maybe i shouldn't have been that Vague about it but lets be honest its exactly like the first Brock fight, he simply caught Nog in a submission. Had Nog not gone for the choke i'm 99% sure he WOULD have stopped Mir and honestly if the ref would have stopped the fight it would have been completely justified in my opinion because it definitely looked like Mir was out. I'm just saying that I feel like if its Brock/Mir 3 I see Brock taking it especially considering it's short notice and that he completely dominated Mir in the second fight. The only difference between Mir then and Mir now is the muscle he put on and i don't see that making much of a difference. |
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Dec 11, 2011 9:32:06 GMT -5
Mir didn't look good!?! He BROKE A MANS ARM!!!! And yes! People get rocked by punches, people through the "having a chin" thing to much in the heavyweight division, one punch off ANY of the men in the heavyweight division can knock someone out. Frank Mirs said it, Roy Nelsons said it, no shamed in getting rocked in that division by anyone, especially big Nog, he's a legend. And Frank Mir Vs Lesnar 3 would be awesome. Frank said he'd fill in at the press conference. Ok maybe i shouldn't have been that Vague about it but lets be honest its exactly like the first Brock fight, he simply caught Nog in a submission. Had Nog not gone for the choke i'm 99% sure he WOULD have stopped Mir and honestly if the ref would have stopped the fight it would have been completely justified in my opinion because it definitely looked like Mir was out. I'm just saying that I feel like if its Brock/Mir 3 I see Brock taking it especially considering it's short notice and that he completely dominated Mir in the second fight. The only difference between Mir then and Mir now is the muscle he put on and i don't see that making much of a difference. If if and ands were pots and pans..... Mir looked fine last night. Anyone can get rocked by a decent shot. Being able to capitalize on openings and snatch up submissions like that is just as important as being able to throw a good punch when it comes to being a complete fighter. I really hope that rumor isn't true though. I've been waiting to long time for Reem fight in the UFC. |
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Dec 11, 2011 13:34:01 GMT -5
Ahh this is no bueno. First St. Pierre now Overeem.
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Post by James Hetfield on Dec 11, 2011 15:25:40 GMT -5
He's not hurt. Both him and Dana said it.
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Post by ZT on Dec 11, 2011 18:46:27 GMT -5
Based on what Dana and Overeem are saying, this is a case of one guy putting one and one together and getting three.
Reem IS on the NSAC agenda for tomorrow, but it in regards to just being licensed. Keith Jardine and Vlad Matyushenko are both listed in the same way.
Reem recently moved his fight camp back to Holland to be with his sick mother, who is fighting cancer.
This is being read into by people as "he skipped town to avoid a drug test" or "he's out of town because he is hurt." Ever since this rumor started it seems nobody can even agree or pin down an actual reason why Reem is out. It is all rumor and hearsay right now.
At this point, both Dana and Reem are saying no problem, and I'll trust their word unless the NSAC comes up tomorrow and says "No, there is a problem."
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Post by Sonnen on Dec 11, 2011 18:48:50 GMT -5
^ Couldn't agree more ZT.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2011 9:17:48 GMT -5
I'd prefer to see the fight go as scheduled, but as a fan of Mir, wouldn't mind seeing him get it either.
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Dec 12, 2011 12:43:04 GMT -5
Based on what Dana and Overeem are saying, this is a case of one guy putting one and one together and getting three. Reem IS on the NSAC agenda for tomorrow, but it in regards to just being licensed. Keith Jardine and Vlad Matyushenko are both listed in the same way. Reem recently moved his fight camp back to Holland to be with his sick mother, who is fighting cancer. This is being read into by people as "he skipped town to avoid a drug test" or "he's out of town because he is hurt." Ever since this rumor started it seems nobody can even agree or pin down an actual reason why Reem is out. It is all rumor and hearsay right now. At this point, both Dana and Reem are saying no problem, and I'll trust their word unless the NSAC comes up tomorrow and says "No, there is a problem." That makes sense. |
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Post by ZT on Dec 12, 2011 15:10:57 GMT -5
I'm going to guess this is a case of someone learning that Overeem was listed on the NSAC agenda for today, and not knowing how it works, so they jumped to conclusions.
The actual text from the agenda says:
It appears the phrase "for possible action" is what is setting people off. However, if people actually took time to read the actual document, and compare it to previous agendas, they would see that EVERYTHING is listed as "for possible action" because it is simply the meeting where everything is approved. All fighters who fight in Nevada must be licensed, and the commission must approve it. As it stands right now, that is all that is happening, and there has been no indication given of anything otherwise. Dana, Lorenzo, and The Reem have all said nothing is wrong, and the fight is on.
One guy who is helping to fuel the fire is Bloodstain Lane, who says on Twitter that he was the one who "broke the story" and that it is a HUGE deal, yet nothing to back it up.
Again, we will see what happens when the meeting takes place around 6pm ET, but for now, it seems a normal NSAC item has been taken out of context.
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Post by osborn on Dec 12, 2011 18:24:27 GMT -5
For some reason Overeem has not taken his pre-fight state commision test yet, therefore Nevada won't grant him a licesence
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Post by frostbite on Dec 12, 2011 18:37:39 GMT -5
For some reason Overeem has not taken his pre-fight state commision test yet, therefore Nevada won't grant him a licesence Is it a piss test? Physical? Anyone know? |
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Post by osborn on Dec 12, 2011 18:50:26 GMT -5
NSAC says they asked Overeem and Lesnar to take drug tests. Lesnar did it and it was fine. They didn't hear from AO for 4 days.
NSAC says they made request to test Overeem on 11/17, but he left for Holland on 11/17.On Nov. 23, Overeem did a test, but it was the wrong test. It was a blood test, but it did test for Testosterone and other drugs. The test came back "normal" for all that it was tested for. The test was performed in Holland. Alistair Overeem did the right test on 12/7. They hope to have the results "later this week." But in the interm he cant be granted a licesence
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Post by frostbite on Dec 12, 2011 19:07:13 GMT -5
I am sure he is fine.
Now I dont want this fight to happen I like Reem..and I want Lesnar to be a huge draw for years to come. The outcome of this fight could be very very bad.
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Post by ZT on Dec 12, 2011 20:32:39 GMT -5
Final Verdict: Overeem has been granted a conditional license, and the fight is on, as long as Reem submits to 4 additional drug tests:
- Within the next 72 hours in Europe (Reem is still currently in Holland)
- Upon arrival in Nevada for UFC 141
- 2 more tests to be completed at random within 6 months of UFC 141 at Reem's expense.
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